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lgd-4033 ( is it the real deal? )

hamdysayed

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I never used anything like sarm pH etc.
and then I stumbled across lgd-4033 and it seems like it's too good to be true so I was wondering whoever used it how was their results and what they used for pct aside from clomid and aromasin?
Also any side effects, I'm a scary cat when it comes this kinda stuff and get worried about my body .
I have no health issues aside from bad knees I'm 30 yo.
as far as my research black stone Labs seems the best from other ppl reviews in here and some say platinum nut is shady.
thanks in a cancellation for al the help!
 
What are yours stats and training experience?
LGD-4033 is actually one of the strongest known SARM. If I'm talking about strongest don't compare that with classic AAS.
LGD is for example known to worsen the cholesterine values and to affect the HTPA stronger than e.g. Ostarine.

You are talking about beeing "scary cat". We are not talking about psychology issues, are we? Reffering to this, LGD could worsen the mental illness but there are no studies yet and I know only one case. Nevertheless, nor SARM nor AAS should be used if there are any mental issues.

Some people also reported about puffy nips. But there are a lot of informations about LGD out there, do your research and decide wisely.
 
sanmarino said:
What are yours stats and training experience?
LGD-4033 is actually one of the strongest known SARM. If I'm talking about strongest don't compare that with classic AAS.
LGD is for example known to worsen the cholesterine values and to affect the HTPA stronger than e.g. Ostarine.

You are talking about beeing "scary cat". We are not talking about psychology issues, are we? Reffering to this, LGD could worsen the mental illness but there are no studies yet and I know only one case. Nevertheless, nor SARM nor AAS should be used if there are any mental issues.

Some people also reported about puffy nips. But there are a lot of informations about LGD out there, do your research and decide wisely.
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Oh no no mental illness at all thank god , more like I don't want to mess up my body and I had access to as hgh but I was worried so I never picked em up, cos of side effects so when I came across lgd ( someone told me about it ) I was impressed that it hardly have any side effects, now you mentioning cholesterol issues is interesting u r the first to mention that.
my stats 205 lbs 18% bf 5'11 been working out for about 8 years on and off, workout is high volume goal is recomp.
and it's really not easy to dig info about sarm lgd since mainly company that sells them are the ones that have articles as about them .
 
Lgd has plenty of potential side effects and you will want to be prepared for them. High bp, lethargy, and gyno are just some of the possible side effects of lgd. I think you should do a little more research my friend. There are a couple of guys with logs on their lgd cycles on here, why don't you check them out and see what they are doing?
 
yates84 said:
Lgd has plenty of potential side effects and you will want to be prepared for them. High bp, lethargy, and gyno are just some of the possible side effects of lgd. I think you should do a little more research my friend. There are a couple of guys with logs on their lgd cycles on here, why don't you check them out and see what they are doing?
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Interesting, like I said all the website I have seen praising the sh!t out of this, and you guys saying that it does have and seem like some of them r serious very interesting ( like I watched a video of evolution.com or something like that) this guy said u might not need a pct I was like wow.
anyways u got a link go these 2 loggers I'm new to this forums I don't know where is log section.
thanks
 
There are some on the same page as this thread and there is a whole cycle sub forum that you can find a link to at the top of this main page as well. You can even use the search function and look up lgd. Sorry, can't throw up any links atm
 
hamdysayed said:
Interesting, like I said all the website I have seen praising the sh!t out of this, and you guys saying that it does have and seem like some of them r serious very interesting ( like I watched a video of evolution.com or something like that) this guy said u might not need a pct I was like wow.
anyways u got a link go these 2 loggers I'm new to this forums I don't know where is log section.
thanks
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Sorry, but you are very naive when you trust some companies which sell this stuff. "Absolutely no side effects", "get 20lbs lean muscle mass in two weeks", blablabla.
Listen. The only reason why companies sell this stuff is that they are looking for profit. Huge profit. They don't care about your health.
Furthermore, SARM are in the moment legally to produce and to sell for researching purposes. And of course you only will read about the good stuff about SARM.
 
sanmarino said:
Sorry, but you are very naive when you trust some companies which sell this stuff. "Absolutely no side effects", "get 20lbs lean muscle mass in two weeks", blablabla.
Listen. The only reason why companies sell this stuff is that they are looking for profit. Huge profit. They don't care about your health.
Furthermore, SARM are in the moment legally to produce and to sell for researching purposes. And of course you only will read about the good stuff about SARM.
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I didn't believe them for a second , that's why I'm here !!
Seeking knowledge and asking the pros like yourself.
Just wanted to clarify if you were to be running lgd what would u use for pct?
Also do u agree that it have way less side effects than AAS and ph?
 
hamdysayed said:
I didn't believe them for a second , that's why I'm here !!
Seeking knowledge and asking the pros like yourself.
Just wanted to clarify if you were to be running lgd what would u use for pct?
Also do u agree that it have way less side effects than AAS and ph?
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Lgd is about equal to a mild ph in terms of side effects and gains. You will need a serm for pct, either clomid or Nolva
 
Actually, I'm still running LGD-4033. Was using it with S4, GW and MK-677 but I'm ending in the day after tomorrow so I'm reducing the dosage. But that won't help you that much because I will use Tamox for a PCT (with 10mg/ed Ostarine). Why PCT? Because of the combination LGD and S4.
Never needed a PCT after a Osta cycle (even in combination with S4). But here - as said - I also will run Ostarine with Tamoxifene.

In a LGD only cycle you should do a blood work to be on the safer side. In studies, the values (also the HTPA) recovered within three weeks and the studysubjects were not given any SERM. But you can't compare a three week test with an abuse of ten weeks.

What I can say for sure is that ACUTALLY the KNOWN side effects are less than in comparison with AAS/PH.
 
It's basically like this everything has potentially negative side effects and you have to weigh out the risk vs reward . If you want to compare AAS or PH's to SARMs as what is safer in terms of effects on HPTA and your body Sarms are going to have less negative effects , notice I said LESS . Just keep doing your research and keep looking through some logs . If you look in the anabolic forum right here there's a couple logs just on the first page right now
 
Thanks yall, well what's really discouraging that lgd the most potent sarm can be compared to just a mild ph which is not encouraging and then you get a jota shutdown from it, not very appealing anymore .
it's like u guys broke it down way better for me,I guess I want something safer than this.
thanks yall I will be following along these logs and see if I would change my mind for now I'll stay natty and stay safe.
 
Try some natty products in on AnaBeta elite and xgels right now , great pump , muscle fullness my strength is increasing and you can run it for 8 weeks.
 
Not sure about new Abe ( used og and loved it ) and I'm running x gels right now it's pretty good almost done with first bottle .
 
I'm also interested in LGD, but maybe running it at a smaller dose than is conventional like 2 or 3mg.

I can't help but wonder whether SARMS might be better used in smaller doses. It seems like the sweet spot is where you are getting anabolic effects without the side effects.

I can understand how someone with a background with AAS/PH would be approaching it from a different angle.
 
roy_jones said:
I'm also interested in LGD, but maybe running it at a smaller dose than is conventional like 2 or 3mg.

I can't help but wonder whether SARMS might be better used in smaller doses. It seems like the sweet spot is where you are getting anabolic effects without the side effects.

I can understand how someone with a background with AAS/PH would be approaching it from a different angle.
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Interesting!!!
I'm in if 3 mg won't cause complete shut down.
 
I'm sure it would still cause significant suppression. I'm looking at ostarine and LGD and think LGD might be better at a low dose than ostarine at a low dose.
 
roy_jones said:
I'm sure it would still cause significant suppression. I'm looking at ostarine and LGD and think LGD might be better at a low dose than ostarine at a low dose.
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If you want to avoid more side effects research Ostarine instead of LGD. It's a anabolic compound only whereas LGD has ana anabolic and androgenic effect.
Futhermore, Ostarine is a bit longer researched than LGD.
Especially for elder bodybuilder Ostarine will be a great compound.
 
sanmarino said:
If you want to avoid more side effects research Ostarine instead of LGD. It's a anabolic compound only whereas LGD has ana anabolic and androgenic effect.
Futhermore, Ostarine is a bit longer researched than LGD.
Especially for elder bodybuilder Ostarine will be a great compound.
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I appreciate the feedback and agree that Ostarine is a better bet for my purposes. I'm more comfortable that it's been on the market longer and has been researched longer.

I didn't realize that LGD had androgenic effects. I'm not in any rush and will continue to read for a couple of months before jumping in. I'd probably use Ostarine on the last 8 weeks of a cut.
 
roy_jones said:
I appreciate the feedback and agree that Ostarine is a better bet for my purposes. I'm more comfortable that it's been on the market longer and has been researched longer.

I didn't realize that LGD had androgenic effects. I'm not in any rush and will continue to read for a couple of months before jumping in. I'd probably use Ostarine on the last 8 weeks of a cut.
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You are welcome, that's why we are here.
As you said: don't rush, study and research well. You won't miss anything. In the best case you will start with a relaunched second generation SARM :)
 
So what is the pros and cons of ostarine if I want to recomp ?
Will it cause a shut down to hpta and other nasty stuff?
 
hamdysayed said:
So what is the pros and cons of ostarine if I want to recomp ?
Will it cause a shut down to hpta and other nasty stuff?
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Sorry, no spoon-feeding here. Do your research I think you can handle the power of your internet browser.
The internet and this forum are full of information.
 
yates84 said:
Check out OL ostar1ne, every batch is 3rd party tested for purity. You can use the code in my signature for 30% of your purchase as well
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One of the advantages to choosing ostarine over LGD is that I can use a company I trust like OL. It's a significant factor in my decision. Now, if you all would get on your horse and get an LGD product released... :)


sanmarino, I've been keeping an eye out for your posts, in particular, in my attempt to learn more about SARMs.
 
Roy_Jones, glad to hear that. I don't look in every thread so if it helps you just mention me in that thread. I will try to help and I'm also looking for discussions. Otherwise I wouldn't be here :)
Enjoy the weekend.
 
sanmarino said:
Sorry, no spoon-feeding here. Do your research I think you can handle the power of your internet browser.
The internet and this forum are full of information.
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Fair enough, I just thought I'd ask u since u r very experienced .it's all good.
 
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