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Hardwork's first show.

What's the current drug protocol again?

I wouldn't sweat it; it blows but it could be anything, like rascal mentioned. Food intake, sleep, stress. Allergies are throwing me around like a ragdoll lately. I had a headache, felt off before I ever left for the gym today, and I couldn't move any weight to save my life. Just turned some heavy jams up, got angry, and trained my muscles bodybuilder style - didn't focus on the weight used and pushed volume and intensity hard, added supersets, just dug for pain. Ended up having an amazing session after almost going home during my primary movement at the start.
 
Thanks bro's. My gear and AI are legit. I'm up 20+ pounds in 4 weeks depending on time of day, but I went in at midnight last night and had a decent chest sessions. I felt much better after I left.

Throats a little sore and I've had a headache and a bit of a runny nose. I'm thinking it's just allergies and with everything else going on just fatigued. I'll hammer out a strong arms session today.

Oh also got an increase in cals from my coach this morning. I'm now consuming almost 600g carbs a day and almost 400g protein. Can't wait for that ghrp and cjc to show up in the mail.
 
mountainman33 said:
Christ that's a lot of food.
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Tell me about it!

Do you guys have a good suggestion on a good protein flavor with oatmeal since I will be eating 2 cups of it every morning? I really enjoyed dymatize banana nut for oatmeal and pancakes, but what else do you guys suggest?

No chocolate or vanilla, I want something that would typically be used in oatmeal.
 
hardwork25 said:
Tell me about it!

Do you guys have a good suggestion on a good protein flavor with oatmeal since I will be eating 2 cups of it every morning? I really enjoyed dymatize banana nut for oatmeal and pancakes, but what else do you guys suggest?

No chocolate or vanilla, I want something that would typically be used in oatmeal.
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PES Snickerdoodle would probably be really good on oatmeal. I use mine to make pancakes mostly, I didn't really like it as a shake.
 
hardwork25 said:
Tell me about it!

Do you guys have a good suggestion on a good protein flavor with oatmeal since I will be eating 2 cups of it every morning? I really enjoyed dymatize banana nut for oatmeal and pancakes, but what else do you guys suggest?

No chocolate or vanilla, I want something that would typically be used in oatmeal.
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Agreed with rascal that snicker doodle is bomb cookies n creme too. I just picked up mts key lime pie and it's amazing too... Not really s typical flavor for oats but might be a nice change of pace.
 
I'll have to check it out. I liked the banana nut because I don't particularly like my oatmeal super sweet. I don't really even love chocolate flavored protein.

I'm not a big sweets guy. I honestly prefer isopure flavoring a for example. The fruity stuff, but it's expensive and not really what I'm looking for value wise.
 
hardwork25 said:
I'll have to check it out. I liked the banana nut because I don't particularly like my oatmeal super sweet. I don't really even love chocolate flavored protein.

I'm not a big sweets guy. I honestly prefer isopure flavoring a for example. The fruity stuff, but it's expensive and not really what I'm looking for value wise.
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Maybe try cellucor strawberry or the key lime pie then. Snickerdoodle and cnc are both quite sweet.
 
I've found that the one flavor of protein that's pretty impossible to f up is chocolate, and I love sweets, so take my advise knowing that, but chocolate is actually my number one flavor to mix with oats.

BSN Syntha-6 Choc PB w/ oats is like pudding mixed w/ oat flakes lol. But @ 200 cal/scoop and a lot of filler, creamer, hydogenated oils it better be! Dymatize Iso-100 mixes very well w/ oats, any flavor. Awesome value, can get it anywhere, and one of the only brands to really have what they claim besides Optimum on that third party testing results that got spread around showing how many brands are spiking their products. Gaspari didn't do so hot on that btw, but their Cinnamon Roll is like cinnamon toast crunch; the best flavor they offer IMO and would mix well w/ oats and cinnamon. IForce has a Brown Sugar & Oatmeal Cookie flavor, but I've yet to try it.

Trutein's Lemon Meringue is f*cking fantastic. Their banana cream is nice too, if you're looking for a blend. They don't have prop blends, which I think is cool.
 
Hyde said:
I've found that the one flavor of protein that's pretty impossible to f up is chocolate, and I love sweets, so take my advise knowing that, but chocolate is actually my number one flavor to mix with oats.

BSN Syntha-6 Choc PB w/ oats is like pudding mixed w/ oat flakes lol. But @ 200 cal/scoop and a lot of filler, creamer, hydogenated oils it better be! Dymatize Iso-100 mixes very well w/ oats, any flavor. Awesome value, can get it anywhere, and one of the only brands to really have what they claim besides Optimum on that third party testing results that got spread around showing how many brands are spiking their products. Gaspari didn't do so hot on that btw, but their Cinnamon Roll is like cinnamon toast crunch; the best flavor they offer IMO and would mix well w/ oats and cinnamon. IForce has a Brown Sugar & Oatmeal Cookie flavor, but I've yet to try it.

Trutein's Lemon Meringue is f*cking fantastic. Their banana cream is nice too, if you're looking for a blend. They don't have prop blends, which I think is cool.
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**** dude you're the man. This was exactly what I was looking for. Thank all you guys for input. I like dymatize but though they were having issues with their 3rd party testing? Maybe I heard wrong.

I usually do cellucore, dymatize, ON, select, and BSN. Syntha 6 was delicious and one of the few chocolates I really liked.

Gonna Load up tomorrow or Tuesday and let you guys know.

Also if anyone hasn't tried gifted nutrition protein they should. I had the unflavored protein and it mixed extremely well and gave me no bloat or digestion issues. Got it for free along with some bcaa's and creatine. Not sure what's out there as far as reviews and such, but It treated me well.
 
hardwork25 said:
That moment when you're stuffed and looking down at a cup of brown rice and a can of tuna at 11am.

Fark
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Makes me full and want to gag just thinking about it.

I did 4,000 calories on Saturday and that was just for fun. Couldn't imagine what your situation is like.
 
I could not imagine 4000+ calories of chicken and rice. Lol my diet is filled with pizza and cheeseburgers so I can get enough calories.
 
rascal14 said:
I could not imagine 4000+ calories of chicken and rice. Lol my diet is filled with pizza and cheeseburgers so I can get enough calories.
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I hate you. Haha jk. I get one cheat meal a week and I've manipulated a couple things to keep me sane. I'm less concerned with keeping my diet spot on during the bulking phase, but that means maybe instead of 2 cups of oatmeal I eat a coupe pop tarts once a week or something instead. Lol

Once my cut starts though it will be much different.
 
hardwork25 said:
**** dude you're the man. This was exactly what I was looking for. Thank all you guys for input. I like dymatize but though they were having issues with their 3rd party testing? Maybe I heard wrong.

I usually do cellucore, dymatize, ON, select, and BSN. Syntha 6 was delicious and one of the few chocolates I really liked.

Gonna Load up tomorrow or Tuesday and let you guys know.

Also if anyone hasn't tried gifted nutrition protein they should. I had the unflavored protein and it mixed extremely well and gave me no bloat or digestion issues. Got it for free along with some bcaa's and creatine. Not sure what's out there as far as reviews and such, but It treated me well.
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Here's the list on Jamie Lewis's Chaos & Pain blog:

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Notice that NOW Foods, Dymatize and Optimum lead the pack in purity, Cellucor falls pretty far down the chain, BSN & Gaspari (while delicious) are pretty sad values. Optimum's Serious Mass and the other gainers fall to the bottom obviously because they have a lot of maltodextrin and other carb and fat sources mixed in, lowering the percentage of protein in the tub drastically.
 
Damn I never over think protein I just stick with americanpurewhey cheap but taste like nothing lol. I occasionally get a new protein but always end up disgusted by the taste
 
thyrod said:
Damn I never over think protein I just stick with americanpurewhey cheap but taste like nothing lol. I occasionally get a new protein but always end up disgusted by the taste
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I used them for a good while but I read some really nasty stuff about how low their actual protein content is (thus the price)... Search around a bit and you'll find a myriad of bad press about how shady they can be.

That said, their cake batter flavor is prob one of my top 3 all time flavors.
 
Yeah I read some bad reviews from back in 09 and I think they corrected it.
Scratch that 12, what I don't understand is how the FDA would of passed it.
 
Well at least I hope so. Because that would be extremely ****ty. And honestly it is not that complicated or exspensive to make whey.
 
thyrod said:
Well at least I hope so. Because that would be extremely ****ty. And honestly it is not that complicated or exspensive to make whey.
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Well the market has driven the price of the raw materials through the roof so it truly is. That's my reason for questioning is the simple fact that whey HAS to be more expensive to produce... Leading me to believe they're still junk unfortunately
 
booneman77 said:
Well the market has driven the price of the raw materials through the roof so it truly is. That's my reason for questioning is the simple fact that whey HAS to be more expensive to produce... Leading me to believe they're still junk unfortunately
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:( recently ordered 10lbs fuark.
It's just all the other protein taste like shot to me :/
 
thyrod said:
:( recently ordered 10lbs fuark.
It's just all the other protein taste like shot to me :/
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I don't know what it when you ordered last but it's been yeeaarrsss since I've had a truly bad trading protein. Some I don't particularly like but not since like 08 since I had one that was literally bad
 
booneman77 said:
I don't know what it when you ordered last but it's been yeeaarrsss since I've had a truly bad trading protein. Some I don't particularly like but not since like 08 since I had one that was literally bad
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Only one that was truly bad in last couple years for me was 4D Nutrition - which was the first company to get a major lawsuit against them for spiking it turned out lol. I was like, man this is cheap for such a baller profile! Lol well it tasted lousy and it turned out it WAS lousy. Sh*tbag con-artists; hope they lose everything they own.
 
Well boys just a little update. I was in Laguna beach for the weekend for work, and took 3 days off from the gym and my diet. Went in today and decided to test my strength out on chest. I have no idea where I would be at because of the high volume stuff I'm doing. I ended up doing 335 x 3 on flat bench and did 105lb dumbbell flyes for a set of 3. No shoulder pain which was nice for a change.

Back to the grind tomorrow. Weight still sitting about 222, but I'll really start my increase in calories this week.
 
Oh shoot guys I realized I forgot to tell you i started hanging out with a new chick. Here she is:


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Increased my prami dose to .3 and I feel like death today. Hope I get used to the increase in a couple days or I'll back it back down or try splitting it up.
 
Clear your inbox homie

hardwork25 said:
Yuuuup
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If you stay w/ prami always take it right before bed to avoid the worst of it. Every time you bump the dose it can be rough. Stay w/ .3 for a wk before you consider going to .4. I've done a full mg/day for a while, and once you get there the sides are no worse than .2mg - but any time you raise the dose it can be a really harsh experience. Go slower than you've ever tapered anything else up lol

There is no benefit to going beyond 1mg, prolactin-wise, and if you wish to go beyond that split doses 12 hours apart. But all the bb forums I've learned from say 1mg is the end of the useful range.

I hate prami.
 
Hyde said:
Clear your inbox homie




If you stay w/ prami always take it right before bed to avoid the worst of it. Every time you bump the dose it can be rough. Stay w/ .3 for a wk before you consider going to .4. I've done a full mg/day for a while, and once you get there the sides are no worse than .2mg - but any time you raise the dose it can be a really harsh experience. Go slower than you've ever tapered anything else up lol

There is no benefit to going beyond 1mg, prolactin-wise, and if you wish to go beyond that split doses 12 hours apart. But all the bb forums I've learned from say 1mg is the end of the useful range.

I hate prami.
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I take it before bed but had the worst insomnia. I didn't fall asleep until 4 am. And leg day was brutal today I felt like garbage pushed threw it then ended up blowing chunks in the parking lot. Going to shower eat and nap. Lol
 
Throwing up while bulking.... There's nothing worse.
 
booneman77 said:
Throwing up while bulking.... There's nothing worse.
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Literally the loss of your gains lol

That's why I took it at night. I also get the insomnia - which is weird, because your body will feel exhausted, but you can't sleep. But it was a matter of performance at my job. PMing you now btw.
 
Well my weight has officially stalled boys. I'm sitting at 220 every morning when I wake up. Going to talk to my coach and up the cals. Going to also ask for an increase in fats because at 600g carbs and 400g protein I need that 9cals/gram help. Lol none of this 4cals/gram BS. I'd like to be able to add a few tablespoons of evoo to get the cals in instead of another cup of brown rice.
 
Eat a whole xl delivered supreme/meatlovers pizza with some olive oil drizzled on it - that'll push the scale lol

But seriously fats are the key to stacking on weight - your ideas sound spot on.
 
My right nipple is a little sensitive and just a touch puffy. I'm going to give the dbol a break and add nolva at 20mg once a day for a few days and also increase my Adex to .50 to knock this out.

Thoughts?
 
hardwork25 said:
My right nipple is a little sensitive and just a touch puffy. I'm going to give the dbol a break and add nolva at 20mg once a day for a few days and also increase my Adex to .50 to knock this out.

Thoughts?
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Seems like the right course of action. I personally have never tried Nolva on cycle, I just usually tinker with my Adex dose.
 
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