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DMA's Never Satisfied Training Log

rascal14 said:
When I was on oral Tren, which I know is hardly compareable. Lol but I mostly noticed the anxiety and heart rate when I was relaxing and watching tv right before bed. I think it was because I finally was slowing down and that just made it easier to notice.
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That makes sense.
 
Dma378 said:
Even though the Mast has a Propionate ester, it doesn't act that fast. Yesterday was my first dose. I'm pretty sure my experience with the Tren the last few days was more anxiety related than actual compound doing anything right away. And I credit the euphoria more toward 5 weeks of supra physiological Test levels, mixed with caffeine and Conqu3r.

As for you using the Mast in that fashion, I still think you're looking for another anabolic to do the work of a proper AI, instead of a proper AI. If you add it, fine, but don't let it fool you into thinking you don't need to still get a legit AI for the Trest.
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I see, and I would definitely still use a good AI with it for sure, this is all new to me but I need to be patient and just stick to the trest I know lol very interesting stuff though, you know how it is, so much out there to experience but your right, im gonna stick with my ai's and the trest and finish this baby off and get this big pct going. its loooong overdue
 
So I spoke too soon when I said every workout was great!! LOL

Started out good today, then the back tightened up doing squats. Wasn't even heavy, it was a Hyper day. Just got tight and made everything else uncomfortable.

Leg Extensions x 5 drop sets

Lying Leg Curls / Abductor Super Set x 4

BB Squats:
135 x 10
135 x 10
185 x 8
185 x 8
185 x 6 (this is where it got real tight. Not strained or anything just wouldn't relax)

SLDL: 135 x 8 x 2 sets (gave up)

Calf Presses x 2 sets

30 minutes moderate/fast pace incline walk

Back loosened up on the treadmill and was able to burn a few hundred cals and get a sweat.

Had Chinese Buffet for lunch yesterday with some customers at work. Needless to say the billion grams of sodium had me feeling bloated and puffy this morning.

Did a Quad injection for the first time this morning. Went pretty smooth and I'm glad I was able to pump out some leg extensions to move the oil around in there a little.

So my dose this morning was:
150mg Mast E
75mg Mast P
40mg Tren Ace This will be every 4th day

Saturday will be:
250mg Test C
75mg Mast P
40-50mg Tren Ace This will be every 4th day in rotation with other combination
 
Holy Hell Quad Injection!!!

Leg seriously feels like it got kicked by a horse. So, I knew leading up to it that it's typical for the first couple times. I made sure everything on my end was smooth, clean, steady, slow and controlled. But whew, I could limp if I wasn't trying to look normal.

Nipple sensitivity has returned the last few days. I find the Adex probably just keeps it in check as it's not a suicidal AI. So I took a whole 25mg tab of Aromasin and .5mg of Caber.

The next 5 workouts I'm mixing up some splits just for a change of pace and then I'll return to the same as I have been doing because I am really enjoying it and feel I'm making good progress. The splits will be:

Chest / Biceps
Legs (Hamstring Focused)
Back / Triceps
Shoulders
Legs (Quad Focused)

Looking forward to the pump-fest that is chest and bicep pairing!!
 
Damn Sorry to hear about the back pump brother and that quad inject sounds brutal! how long did it take before you felt it ? Glad everything else is good, tha taromasin and caber should keep the sensitivity down, I just re-upped on Prami and threw in 10mg nolva for mine, starting to feel a lot better, this 10mg nolva should get rid of mine soon I hope with 1.5mg prami and im starting the feel the 2.5mg letro now specially in my knee's so I might cut back in another week.. feeling good though, looking forward to your new split, chest and bi's will be a nice pump !
 
Did shot around 4:00am, soreness started creeping on around noon, and has progressed since. Leveled off now to a steady soreness. Hopefully a good night sleep will help it recover.

It's not so bad that I won't give it another try. I mean it's sore, but I'm stubborn. Just feel the need to add in a 3rd site with the every other day dosing now.
 
I hate pinning quads, but like you said, sometimes you have to find another spot..

I always thought about trying to pin my lats, but never gave it a shot... Literally lol
 
Very interesting, delt's don't sound too bad at all, I hear calves are the worst. oh and traps being the most dangerous as well
 
Has the addition of Tren affected your sex drive at all? I've read it kills some peoples and some peoples sky rocket with it.
 
DigitalB said:
I use a 1" 23G for Delts..
1.5" 23G for glutes..
Those are really the only spots I use..
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I'm starting out my Trest Ace/Decoanate run with 1" 25g to see how it works and might bump up to the 23, I just hate pinnin and needles but its all in the name of gains and feeling good, Anyone run dbol oral or IM experience the euphoria that is mentioned a lot? and will I get that from the trest or more of just the pumped up alpha male gym crushing feeling? I've been on the epi/tren for a couple weeks now and I tell you oral tren is nice, couldn't imagine how intense it is IM but I have been feeling great on this stuff, no lethargy at all!
 
rascal14 said:
Has the addition of Tren affected your sex drive at all? I've read it kills some peoples and some peoples sky rocket with it.
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Not at all. Still sky high as it has been for a few weeks. And the quality of sex is great as well. Not trying to be overly detailed about my sex life, but man the Test makes things real intense.
 
Slept like a champ after the 11:00 hour. From 9-11 though it was a sweaty toss and turn. Woke up and leg is probably 50% better. Hit it with some Icy-Hot and it eased up real good before the gym. Not good enough to run or anything. But enough to hit the weights hard and not have it on my mind.I think I missed the target quad location a little. A bit too low. Should be about 2/3rds of the way up from knee to hip. And I hit right about mid-way.

Pump hurt this morning. Lifted everything with my mind.

Flat Bench Press:
95 warm up
135 x 15
185 x 10
225 x 6
275 x 3
285 x 2 + 1 w/ spot

Flat DB Press:
75's x 10
85's x 10
95's x 6
95's x 6
Super Set
DB Curls:
25's x 20
30's x 18
35's x 16
40's x 14

Incline BB Press:
115 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
Super Set
Plate Loaded Preacher Curl:
95 x 10
120 x 8
130 x 6
130 x 6
130 x 6

Low Cable Flys:
35 x 12
35 x 12
35 x 12
35 x 12
Super Set
Single Arm Cable Curls:
35 x 6
35 x 6
35 x 6
35 x 6

Feet Elevated Push Ups x 3 sets
Super Set
Straight Bar Curl on Seated Cable x 3 sets

20 minutes moderate pace/moderate resistance bike

Bi's, front delts, across the upper chest was so tight and pumped when I was on the bike it hurt. Just wanted to cross my arms because it felt better!!

Weighed in at 207 this morning. That's 12 pounds up. Bloat is a little better today. Probably wake up at 204-205 tomorrow.
 
Dma378 said:
Slept like a champ after the 11:00 hour. From 9-11 though it was a sweaty toss and turn. Woke up and leg is probably 50% better. Hit it with some Icy-Hot and it eased up real good before the gym. Not good enough to run or anything. But enough to hit the weights hard and not have it on my mind.I think I missed the target quad location a little. A bit too low. Should be about 2/3rds of the way up from knee to hip. And I hit right about mid-way.

Pump hurt this morning. Lifted everything with my mind.

Flat Bench Press:
95 warm up
135 x 15
185 x 10
225 x 6
275 x 3
285 x 2 + 1 w/ spot

Flat DB Press:
75's x 10
85's x 10
95's x 6
95's x 6
Super Set
DB Curls:
25's x 20
30's x 18
35's x 16
40's x 14

Incline BB Press:
115 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
115 x 8
Super Set
Plate Loaded Preacher Curl:
95 x 10
120 x 8
130 x 6
130 x 6
130 x 6

Low Cable Flys:
35 x 12
35 x 12
35 x 12
35 x 12
Super Set
Single Arm Cable Curls:
35 x 6
35 x 6
35 x 6
35 x 6

Feet Elevated Push Ups x 3 sets
Super Set
Straight Bar Curl on Seated Cable x 3 sets

20 minutes moderate pace/moderate resistance bike

Bi's, front delts, across the upper chest was so tight and pumped when I was on the bike it hurt. Just wanted to cross my arms because it felt better!!

Weighed in at 207 this morning. That's 12 pounds up. Bloat is a little better today. Probably wake up at 204-205 tomorrow.
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Kickass, for the dumbbell flat superset with db curls did you just drop the 95's and such and grab the ones for curls and do it seated? I love that feeling man! glad your leg's feeling better! I notice on the Oral Tren im doing my sex drive hasn't faltered any, not sure if the prami might be kind of helping that out or not though weight sounds good, what was your target weight again??
 
KilaCali said:
Kickass, for the dumbbell flat superset with db curls did you just drop the 95's and such and grab the ones for curls and do it seated? I love that feeling man! glad your leg's feeling better! I notice on the Oral Tren im doing my sex drive hasn't faltered any, not sure if the prami might be kind of helping that out or not though weight sounds good, what was your target weight again??
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I don't really have a target weight. Bigger and Leaner is all I care about. No matter the number. Leg back to crap status this evening!!
 
DigitalB said:
How many days a week do you lift bro?

I'd have to go count days and that's to hard for me to do... Lol
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6 or so. Last weekend I took both days off but before that I went 16 of 17 days!! I'll take this Sunday off and probably just make that the norm. My body and mind say go, but I need to forcefully take at least a rest day a week.
 
Dma378 said:
I don't really have a target weight. Bigger and Leaner is all I care about. No matter the number. Leg back to crap status this evening!!
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Ahh I see! That's cool, bigger, stronger, faster, leaner is always better! and that sucks man! sorry to hear that, from the same poke yesterday?? or are you pinnin more legs again?
 
KilaCali said:
Ahh I see! That's cool, bigger, stronger, faster, leaner is always better! and that sucks man! sorry to hear that, from the same poke yesterday?? or are you pinnin more legs again?
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No same one. Lesson learned, but had to try. Not worth another bad one, even if it MIGHT get better, I'm not risking it. I'll try delts as a 3rd option in a couple weeks. Going to just go back to easy pinning for a while in the ole glutes.
 
Dma378 said:
No same one. Lesson learned, but had to try. Not worth another bad one, even if it MIGHT get better, I'm not risking it. I'll try delts as a 3rd option in a couple weeks. Going to just go back to easy pinning for a while in the ole glutes.
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lol sounds like a good plan! must have been freaking brutal! did you bruise from it???
 
Dma378 said:
I've done 2 injections of 50mg each. Tomorrow's will be more like 30mg. I think I will still see results if I can find a dose that I can tolerate. And then maybe I can ease back up. I have done a little reading about others who can't tolerate doses of 50, 75, 100, etc, but have found 30-35mg eod still produces great results. You know some people can take 100mg eod and it doesn't effect them negatively at all.
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added in some mast huh??? That's nice
 
Dma378 said:
Yeah, why not? Get this combo kicking!! After the initial anxiety of the Tren, I feel I'm handling it ok and am going to bump it back to 50 tomorrow.
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That's good, what were you doing 25 of the tren?? I thought you were already at the 50 and the anxiety factor sucks! sounds like you need some Xanax or something lol. I catch myself getting some anxiety off the oral tren im taking I had to take a half a Xanax a couple times and it BARELY calmed me down for an hour or two.
 
Dma378 said:
Yeah, why not? Get this combo kicking!! After the initial anxiety of the Tren, I feel I'm handling it ok and am going to bump it back to 50 tomorrow.
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I think it's a great addition from your last pics you look lean enough for the mast to do some nice results. Honestly everyone knows I run outrageous amounts but if your liking 30mg I would go with that for a little while longer
 
Upped the Tren to 50mg this morning, 75 mg Mast Prop, 300mg Test C. Still only 1ml of Test, I just have some from one supplier that is 300mg/ml, and I want to boost it up a little.

Nice workout this morning. Back/Triceps/Abs

Rear Pull Ups / Ultra Wide Regular Pull Ups:
10 Rear PR
6 Regular Wide
6 Rear
5 Regular Wide
5 Rear
5 Regular Wide
4 Rear
4 Regular Wide

Lat Pull Downs:
150 x 12
150 x 12
150 x 12
150 x 12

Unsupported T-Bar:
80 x 12
105 x 12
105 x 12
105 x 12
105 x 12
Super Set
Skullcrushers:
70 x 12
80 x 10 drop to 40 to failure
80 x 6 drop to 40 to failure
80 x 6 drop to 40 to failure
80 x 6 drop to 40 to failure

Underhand Seated Cable Row:
120 x 12
120 x 12
120 x 12
120 x 12
120 x 12
Super Set
Tricep Push Down:
140 x 10
140 x 8
140 x 8
140 x 8
140 x 8

DB Rows:
50 x 10
50 x 10
50 x 10
Super Set
DB Tricep Kickbacks:
20 x 12
15 x 12
15 x 12

Hanging Leg Raises / Cable Crunch x 5 Rotations

25 minutes Incline Walk

Tried to run, was going to do sprints, but the leg is not ready for all that. It feels ok, but not when the pressure of the first couple strides of running hit.

Rest day tomorrow. Things are definitely shaping up. I'll give at least another week before I post any more pics.
 
I've never ran Tren just because I know I'd be prone to the sides.. I am going to try oral Tren my next run.. If all goes well, I'll pin it..

I may have to try your scheme, low and slow until I adjust and then up the dosages..
 
DigitalB said:
I've never ran Tren just because I know I'd be prone to the sides.. I am going to try oral Tren my next run.. If all goes well, I'll pin it..

I may have to try your scheme, low and slow until I adjust and then up the dosages..
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The oral will really not give you any idea,how you will react to pinning tren.
 
DigitalB said:
We shall see...
Xtren & Epi to finish my next run..
SD up front with a few Injectables..
No lower than 120 on the Tren..
It's a start lol
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Yea it's a start but my opinion is to do the low and slow ace clears quick and acts quick so it's much easier to adjust
 
Shoulders only workout this morning. Felt good and strong. Something about coming off of a rest day that is never as good. Doesn't make sense really.

Standing OHP:
65 x 12
95 x 10
115 x 10
135 x 8
155 x 3
155 x 3

Snatch Grip High Pulls:
95 x 10
115 x 10
135 x 6
135 x 7
135 x 7

1 Arm Leaning Side Laterals:
15 x 15 each side x 4 sets non-stop

Reverse Pec Deck:
70 x 15
85 x 12
85 x 12
85 x 12
85 x 12

BB Shrugs:
185 x 10
185 x 10
185 x 10
185 x 10
Super Set
Plate Front Raises:
45 x 6
45 x 6
45 x 6
45 x 6

Rear Delt Finisher (face down on incline bench):
15's to failure x 3 sets

23 minutes of 45 second interval sprints.

Sprints felt great this morning. Needed to sweat it out. Endurance is fine. Tren at this point is not hindering it, or the Ep1c Unleashed is nullifying it's effect.

Upped Tren to 60mg this morning. I feel like I've leveled out at how my body is handling it. Sleep is about 50%, meaning for every bad night, the next night is good.

My official dry waking weight is 208. Diet over the weekend was on point. Not bloated, not retaining water excessively and look as lean as ever. Size is evident in shoulders and arms. At this point I would say that 8 of the 13lbs. I've gained is LBM. That is a rough estimate. Cycle is 1/3rd over.
 
What do you guys think is better, front loading a Test E cycle or kick starting a Test E cycle with Test Prop the first few weeks?
 
Finally a Deadlift session with no back pumps, no back soreness, no intercostal pain, etc. Felt nice.

Deads:
135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 8
275 x 8
315 x 6
365 x 4
365 x 3

BB Smith Split Squats:
135 x 12
155 x 10
175 x 10
175 x 10

Calf Raises: (with Speed Bag between every set)
90 x 30
115 x 25
115 x 25
115 x 25
115 x 25

Leg Press: (slow and as deep of a retraction as possible)
4 Plates x 15
6 Plates x 12
6 Plates x 12
6 Plates x 12
6 Plates x 12

Oblique Crunches / Decline Sit Ups x 3 Rotations

10 minutes Stairs

Eh, kind of a BS workout after the Deads. Just went through the motions without really feeling it. Didn't push any real weight. Still somehow drenched in sweat.

Back to the Push / Pull / Legs rotation starting tomorrow. The Power Push has become my favorite session, so can it be tomorrow already?!!
 
So I'm pretty sure the Tren is about in full swing. Going to go ahead and keep it at 50-60 eod. Temper is short. Mood is no-nonsense. Broke out in 2 random sweats today. I smell funny LOL. And a couple nice shoulder zits. But man-oh-man I can't wait to get in the gym for heavy pressing tomorrow. Might just go to bed at 6:00.
 
Dma378 said:
So I'm pretty sure the Tren is about in full swing. Going to go ahead and keep it at 50-60 eod. Temper is short. Mood is no-nonsense. Broke out in 2 random sweats today. I smell funny LOL. And a couple nice shoulder zits. But man-oh-man I can't wait to get in the gym for heavy pressing tomorrow. Might just go to bed at 6:00.
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Love that feeling. Everything else is just background noise to the weight.
 
Your volume, weight and endurance is inspiring D! Beast mode is in full swing!
 
It's not very often that I can't finish my planned exercises. But this morning the pump and fatigue in my chest was intense. And I think I'm sweating out pure energy.

30 degree Incline DB Press:
55's x 15
75's x 10
90's x 10
100's x 6
100's x 6

45 degrees Incline DB Press:
100's x 5
85's x 6
75's x 5

60 degrees Incline DB Press:
65's x 6
65's x 5

Underhand Smith Press on Slight Incline:
155 x 12
185 x 10
205 x 6
215 x 6

DB Shoulder Press:
60's x 7
60's x 6
50's x 6
50's x 6
50's x 7
Super Set
DB Side Laterals:
25's x 10
25's x 10
20's x 10
20's x 8
20's x 8

Flat DB Flys:
40's x 12
45's x 10
Super Set
DB Pullovers:
75 x 10
75 x 10 (this was supposed to be 4 Super Sets, but was so toast I had to move on)

V-Bar Push Downs:
150 x 12
160 x 12
170 x 10
180 x 8
190 x 8
Super Set
Cable Front Raises w/ Rope between legs:
40 x 12
50 x 12
60 x 10
70 x 8
70 x 8

10 minutes Jump Rope

12 minutes fast pace on steep incline

Ok, so despite my unpleasant quad injection last week, I did another one this morning. I'm pretty certain it was more due to the gear being harsh. I got the same PIP in the glute 2 days ago. And the common denominator is the Mast E. So this morning's mix did not include it so I tried the quad again. Man it sure is super easy and convenient. Also I contacted my source of the Mast E and they are replacing it. Now that's customer service!!
 
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