DMA's Never Satisfied Training Log

mixedup said:
Too much traveling for my taste but gotta get that dough
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yep thats the idea. grind out a few years and then settle where i see the best fit. The biggest perk of travelling is that all expenses are paid so I just come home to full bank accounts
 
booneman77 said:
well I'm in atlanta and may actually be working in NJ as well. Also, CA is for canada in this case, not cali ha.
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Fyi - can't buy the cookie nuts online (in store only atm)
 
Would you say Ep1c Unleashed the transdermal would be a better deal? Is the absorption better with it or about the same as the oral? The price per mg is the same for each one.
 
rascal14 said:
Would you say Ep1c Unleashed the transdermal would be a better deal? Is the absorption better with it or about the same as the oral? The price per mg is the same for each one.
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Theoretically it should be. With our new enhanced absorption the oral version may come pretty close though. I have not used it yet, but some testers actually commented better results from the oral version. My advice would be to get both and have some FUN.
 
Hard for me to say exact dosage comparison. I ran both together (2 caps pwo, and 1 pump in am), then when oral ran out I just went to 2 pumps a day. And that was phenomenal.
 
Which by the way, I ordered a bottle last night despite NP's intro price not dropping. It's worth $5 either way to get it going. And now that I started the Tren Ace last night, I'm hoping the Ep1c Unleashed will aid in keeping my cardio capacity up since Tren is known for hindering it.
 
Also by the way, first injection of 50mg Tren Ace last night went smooth. And I don't know if it was all in my head but my heart was pounding up until I fell asleep. Gave a funny taste in my mouth to about 15 minutes after.
Bottle of Ar1macarePro is gone but will continue supplementing Hawthorne Berry in the am and pm, as well as Saw Palmetto for prostate support.
 
Interesting stuff so far fella! I gots some catching up to do!
 
So it's between a bottle of Ep1c or a topical fat burner.. I need to get rid of these love handles. I could have a full 8 pack and still have love handles I bet lol
 
rascal14 said:
So it's between a bottle of Ep1c or a topical fat burner.. I need to get rid of these love handles. I could have a full 8 pack and still have love handles I bet lol
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I'm the same my brother. I'm trying to defy something that has been there for 30+ years with mine. I would rely on diet and training over a fat burner. And of course I recommend the Ep1c to kill workouts.
 
Dma378 said:
Also by the way, first injection of 50mg Tren Ace last night went smooth. And I don't know if it was all in my head but my heart was pounding up until I fell asleep. Gave a funny taste in my mouth to about 15 minutes after.
Bottle of Ar1macarePro is gone but will continue supplementing Hawthorne Berry in the am and pm, as well as Saw Palmetto for prostate support.
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I get the same thing with tren. It's the excitement that gets my heart going and the taste is like metal ha. I kinda liked it though ;)

Only had one time where I had a tren cough scare but I was able to hold it back just enough to not feel the true thing. Crazy experience tho
 
Definitely a metallic taste. I liked it too. Really hard to take the whole weekend off from gym . Body feels ready to go. But by Monday morning I will have a couple doses of Ace in me and placebo will be on FIRE!!!
 
In my researches of tren and even test they say if you accidently got some directly in your bloodstream that's the main cause behind the tren cough and youll get that metallic taste in your mouth, its recommended to always draw back a little once your in to make sure no blood leaks back in so you know your in the muscle.. just my .02 not sure how serious it is :O
 
Dma378 said:
I'm the same my brother. I'm trying to defy something that has been there for 30+ years with mine. I would rely on diet and training over a fat burner. And of course I recommend the Ep1c to kill workouts.
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Yeah, training is good and diet is on point and making me hate life. Lol I see a lot of stuff about people loving Clenviscerate, makes me wanna try it.
 
KilaCali said:
In my researches of tren and even test they say if you accidently got some directly in your bloodstream that's the main cause behind the tren cough and youll get that metallic taste in your mouth, its recommended to always draw back a little once your in to make sure no blood leaks back in so you know your in the muscle.. just my .02 not sure how serious it is :O
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I always aspirate. And being an ex-junkie, I know that when you get something in your veins, you taste it in your mouth and throat right away. This came on about 30 minutes after injection.
 
Does anyone have any good program ideas? I did PHAT for a long time and then once I started cutting I switched the Hypertrophy day to heavy too, but I'm getting bored of it. I need something new.
 
rascal14 said:
Does anyone have any good program ideas? I did PHAT for a long time and then once I started cutting I switched the Hypertrophy day to heavy too, but I'm getting bored of it. I need something new.
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Try something totally different like kris gethins dtp or German volume.
 
rascal14 said:
Does anyone have any good program ideas? I did PHAT for a long time and then once I started cutting I switched the Hypertrophy day to heavy too, but I'm getting bored of it. I need something new.
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theres SO many different programs and protocols.. I like taking bits and pieces from 5 or 10 different programs and creating my own beast to suit whats needed for my situation and body... if you need some tips or leads PM me i'll do my best to help ya out.. need to know what your main goals are for the next 6weeks or however long you want to do it for..
 
Tren is powerful. I will be lowering the dose even further as my resting heart rate was a little to crazy yesterday. So if I can't get that under control, I will be stopping it. I don't want to feel sketch. I know when dealing with ugl's quality can be a gamble. But maybe this is actually dosed higher than it's labeled. Actually feel like it hindered my workout this morning.

Leg Press:
4 Plates x 12
6 Plates x 12
8 Plates x 10
10 Plates x 10
12 Plates x 8
12 Plates x 8

Deadlifts:
135 warm up x 2 sets
185 x 10
225 x 10
275 x 6
275 x 6
275 x 6

Leg Ext / Lying Leg Curl Super Set x 5 Rotations

Calf Presses x 4 sets

10 minutes Bike

10 minutes Treadmill

Got a belt for deads and although I didn't go heavy, I felt it definitely gave me support and also helped keep form intact. Just going to keep it at 275 for a few sessions before I go up.

Although the session was a little lackluster (disappointing coming off a rested weekend), the sweat was out of control. Completely soaked my shirt.

Think I am going to start the Mast P tomorrow as well. Also a low dose. Hoping that it's positive effects will combat the Tren a little. So dosing will be:

250mg Cyp, 50mg Mast P, 30mg Tren A - e4d

50mg Mast P, 30mg Tren A - eod in between
 
Awesome looking good, quick question! You guys think I should use any diff size needle for trest ace and trest d?? I was planning on a 1"25-26g I want the slimmest less painless one possible, cant stand those things lol and I keep hearing abut the slim pins, what exactly is this ****, I know for diabetics they go anyqwhere from 28-32g I believe but I wanna make sure its not gonna be a 10 minute injecting process.... Appreciate the tips!
 
rascal14 said:
What's the highest you've gone with Tren?
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I've done 2 injections of 50mg each. Tomorrow's will be more like 30mg. I think I will still see results if I can find a dose that I can tolerate. And then maybe I can ease back up. I have done a little reading about others who can't tolerate doses of 50, 75, 100, etc, but have found 30-35mg eod still produces great results. You know some people can take 100mg eod and it doesn't effect them negatively at all.
 
Dma378 said:
I've done 2 injections of 50mg each. Tomorrow's will be more like 30mg. I think I will still see results if I can find a dose that I can tolerate. And then maybe I can ease back up. I have done a little reading about others who can't tolerate doses of 50, 75, 100, etc, but have found 30-35mg eod still produces great results. You know some people can take 100mg eod and it doesn't effect them negatively at all.
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Oh okay so is this your first time using Tren? I had assumed you've used it before.
 
KilaCali said:
Awesome looking good, quick question! You guys think I should use any diff size needle for trest ace and trest d?? I was planning on a 1"25-26g I want the slimmest less painless one possible, cant stand those things lol and I keep hearing abut the slim pins, what exactly is this ****, I know for diabetics they go anyqwhere from 28-32g I believe but I wanna make sure its not gonna be a 10 minute injecting process.... Appreciate the tips!
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Don't go any slimmer than a 25g. I had done only 25's until I recently picked up some 23's and I thought shoot, these are gonna suck. But no way, 23 is the way to go. You don't even feel it go in dude, and the ease of the push is what makes a successful pin. If you are struggling to push, which means you're probably wiggling it, you're going to have major PIP.
 
rascal14 said:
Oh okay so is this your first time using Tren? I had assumed you've used it before.
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Yep, first time. And despite a couple anxious moments and the racing heart, I felt much better today. I feel with the lower dose and the addition of the Mast, the top of the world feeling is coming on.
 
Dma378 said:
Don't go any slimmer than a 25g. I had done only 25's until I recently picked up some 23's and I thought shoot, these are gonna suck. But no way, 23 is the way to go. You don't even feel it go in dude, and the ease of the push is what makes a successful pin. If you are struggling to push, which means you're probably wiggling it, you're going to have major PIP.
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Awesome! Thanks broski, so when you inject do you do a quick jab or do you just meet the surface and slowly push in?? and should I stick to a 1" and go about 3/4 the way into the glute ofr a good shot??
 
Dma378 said:
Yep, first time. And despite a couple anxious moments and the racing heart, I felt much better today. I feel with the lower dose and the addition of the Mast, the top of the world feeling is coming on.
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I see, I can't wait to eventually try real Tren. Hopefully it treats me as well as the oral did. I haven't really read into Masteron at all.

I'm excited to see how this all works for you man.
 
If 30 eod works for you thatll better anyways, it leaves you alot of room to build up in later cycles
 
KilaCali said:
Awesome! Thanks broski, so when you inject do you do a quick jab or do you just meet the surface and slowly push in?? and should I stick to a 1" and go about 3/4 the way into the glute ofr a good shot??
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with 1" you should bury that thing in your glutes... frankly you can bury 1" anywhere. Only the 1.5+ would I even consider partial
 
Definitely glad I grabbed the 23g pins. This morning's dose was 2ml, which was pretty easy with the 23's. Would have been a little more strenuous with 25's. Combined with a little anxiety, coffee, and Conqu3r, this morning's workout was total euphoria. Sweat-fest, pump-tastic, Push Hyper sesh!!

OHP:
65 x 15
85 x 12
95 x 12
105 x 10
115 x 10
115 x 8

HS Decline Press: ( weight on each side)
45 x 20
70 x 15
70 x 15
70 x 15

DB Side Laterals:
20's x 15 drop to 10's to failure
20's x 12 drop to 10's to failure
20's x 12 drop to 10's to failure
20's, 15's, 10's, 5's x 6 each

HS Wide Press w/ 4-0-1-1 tempo: (weight each side)
80 x 12 drop to 35 to failure
80 x 12 drop to 35 to failure
80 partials x ???
Super Set
HS ISO Single Arm Press w/ Hand at Guillotine Position:
45 x 7
45 x 7
45 x 5

Overhead Tricep Rope Ext:
40 x 15
50 x 15
60 x 15
70 x 15
80 x 15
Super Set
Low Cable Flys:
40 x 15
50 x 12
50 x 12
50 x 12
50 x 10

Life Fitness Shoulder Press Hammer Grip:
50 to failure x 4 sets
Super Set
Dips:
BW x 6, 10, 8, 6 (so hard!!)

Ab Roller / Side Bends w/ 45lb. Plate x 3 Rotations

12 minutes moderate pace Stairmaster

Sleep wasn't that great last night, but good enough. Trying not to take a double-dose of the Amitriptylene every night. Probably will tonight to insure a solid night's sleep. But feel pretty great this morning despite it.

Extra vascular today as well. Things are shaping up nicely while holding tight to 3200-3300 cals per day.
 
Dma378 said:
Definitely glad I grabbed the 23g pins. This morning's dose was 2ml, which was pretty easy with the 23's. Would have been a little more strenuous with 25's. Combined with a little anxiety, coffee, and Conqu3r, this morning's workout was total euphoria. Sweat-fest, pump-tastic, Push Hyper sesh!!

OHP:
65 x 15
85 x 12
95 x 12
105 x 10
115 x 10
115 x 8

HS Decline Press: ( weight on each side)
45 x 20
70 x 15
70 x 15
70 x 15

DB Side Laterals:
20's x 15 drop to 10's to failure
20's x 12 drop to 10's to failure
20's x 12 drop to 10's to failure
20's, 15's, 10's, 5's x 6 each

HS Wide Press w/ 4-0-1-1 tempo: (weight each side)
80 x 12 drop to 35 to failure
80 x 12 drop to 35 to failure
80 partials x ???
Super Set
HS ISO Single Arm Press w/ Hand at Guillotine Position:
45 x 7
45 x 7
45 x 5

Overhead Tricep Rope Ext:
40 x 15
50 x 15
60 x 15
70 x 15
80 x 15
Super Set
Low Cable Flys:
40 x 15
50 x 12
50 x 12
50 x 12
50 x 10

Life Fitness Shoulder Press Hammer Grip:
50 to failure x 4 sets
Super Set
Dips:
BW x 6, 10, 8, 6 (so hard!!)

Ab Roller / Side Bends w/ 45lb. Plate x 3 Rotations

12 minutes moderate pace Stairmaster

Sleep wasn't that great last night, but good enough. Trying not to take a double-dose of the Amitriptylene every night. Probably will tonight to insure a solid night's sleep. But feel pretty great this morning despite it.

Extra vascular today as well. Things are shaping up nicely while holding tight to 3200-3300 cals per day.
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DAMN sounds like the ultimate PWO routine lol, glad all is going great man, I think its only gonna get better for you!
 
Dma378 said:
Definitely glad I grabbed the 23g pins. This morning's dose was 2ml, which was pretty easy with the 23's. Would have been a little more strenuous with 25's. Combined with a little anxiety, coffee, and Conqu3r, this morning's workout was total euphoria. Sweat-fest, pump-tastic, Push Hyper sesh!!

OHP:
65 x 15
85 x 12
95 x 12
105 x 10
115 x 10
115 x 8

HS Decline Press: ( weight on each side)
45 x 20
70 x 15
70 x 15
70 x 15

DB Side Laterals:
20's x 15 drop to 10's to failure
20's x 12 drop to 10's to failure
20's x 12 drop to 10's to failure
20's, 15's, 10's, 5's x 6 each

HS Wide Press w/ 4-0-1-1 tempo: (weight each side)
80 x 12 drop to 35 to failure
80 x 12 drop to 35 to failure
80 partials x ???
Super Set
HS ISO Single Arm Press w/ Hand at Guillotine Position:
45 x 7
45 x 7
45 x 5

Overhead Tricep Rope Ext:
40 x 15
50 x 15
60 x 15
70 x 15
80 x 15
Super Set
Low Cable Flys:
40 x 15
50 x 12
50 x 12
50 x 12
50 x 10

Life Fitness Shoulder Press Hammer Grip:
50 to failure x 4 sets
Super Set
Dips:
BW x 6, 10, 8, 6 (so hard!!)

Ab Roller / Side Bends w/ 45lb. Plate x 3 Rotations

12 minutes moderate pace Stairmaster

Sleep wasn't that great last night, but good enough. Trying not to take a double-dose of the Amitriptylene every night. Probably will tonight to insure a solid night's sleep. But feel pretty great this morning despite it.

Extra vascular today as well. Things are shaping up nicely while holding tight to 3200-3300 cals per day.
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Crank the Volume Up!
Damn broth, Beasty sessions..
 
Dma378 said:
Yessir!! Thanks bro
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Wondering if your Euphoria is mostly from the Masteron/Drostanolone Prop ??? I kinda like the sounds of it, maybe a better alternative then Winni as far as something to offset a higher androgenic/aromatizable compound ??? I know its a major DHT player, so give me the low down? I'm really tempted to toss in a 4 or 5 week run with my Trest at 50mg or so E3D.. ?
 
SMHS at your beast sessions! That is all!
 
KilaCali said:
Wondering if your Euphoria is mostly from the Masteron/Drostanolone Prop ??? I kinda like the sounds of it, maybe a better alternative then Winni as far as something to offset a higher androgenic/aromatizable compound ??? I know its a major DHT player, so give me the low down? I'm really tempted to toss in a 4 or 5 week run with my Trest at 50mg or so E3D.. ?
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Even though the Mast has a Propionate ester, it doesn't act that fast. Yesterday was my first dose. I'm pretty sure my experience with the Tren the last few days was more anxiety related than actual compound doing anything right away. And I credit the euphoria more toward 5 weeks of supra physiological Test levels, mixed with caffeine and Conqu3r.

As for you using the Mast in that fashion, I still think you're looking for another anabolic to do the work of a proper AI, instead of a proper AI. If you add it, fine, but don't let it fool you into thinking you don't need to still get a legit AI for the Trest.
 
Just ordered the new EP1C transdermal. Look forward to trying it out.

Keep killing it brotha!!
 
Great Pull Power morning. Slept good, feel good.

Snatch Grip High Pulls:
95 x 12
115 x 12
135 x 10 PR for reps
155 x 8 PR
165 x 8 PR
135 x 8

Kroc Rows:
75's x 15
105's x 12
125's x 9
125's x 8

Lat Pull Downs:
150 x 10
170 x 10
190 x 8
210 x 6
210 x 6

Chest Supported T-Bar:
90 x 10
100 x 8
100 x 7
110 x 7
110 x 6
Super Set
DB Hammer Curls: (simultaneous)
35's x 8
35's x 8
35's x 8
35's x 7
35's x 7

Drag Curls:
115 x 12
135 x 10
155 x 10
165 x 8
165 x 8
Super Set
DB Reverse Flys:
20's x 12 x 5 sets

Seated Cable Rows:
150 x 12
170 x 10
170 x 6
170 x 6
Super Set
HS Trap Bar Shrug Holds:
90 on each side x 8 w/ 5 second squeeze x 4 sets

14 minutes Interval Hill Sprints

So I can probably just leave it as a given that every workout is now a sweaty pump fest. They are just spectacular physically and psychologically. Feel like the king of the gym. I don't think I look normal, but don't really care.

I feel like I am handling the Tren pretty well. After being pretty chill all day yesterday, then pulse started to race a little bit close to bedtime!! Just my luck LOL. But crashed out easily and stayed asleep most of the night.
 
Dma378 said:
Great Pull Power morning. Slept good, feel good.

Snatch Grip High Pulls:
95 x 12
115 x 12
135 x 10 PR for reps
155 x 8 PR
165 x 8 PR
135 x 8

Kroc Rows:
75's x 15
105's x 12
125's x 9
125's x 8

Lat Pull Downs:
150 x 10
170 x 10
190 x 8
210 x 6
210 x 6

Chest Supported T-Bar:
90 x 10
100 x 8
100 x 7
110 x 7
110 x 6
Super Set
DB Hammer Curls: (simultaneous)
35's x 8
35's x 8
35's x 8
35's x 7
35's x 7

Drag Curls:
115 x 12
135 x 10
155 x 10
165 x 8
165 x 8
Super Set
DB Reverse Flys:
20's x 12 x 5 sets

Seated Cable Rows:
150 x 12
170 x 10
170 x 6
170 x 6
Super Set
HS Trap Bar Shrug Holds:
90 on each side x 8 w/ 5 second squeeze x 4 sets

14 minutes Interval Hill Sprints

So I can probably just leave it as a given that every workout is now a sweaty pump fest. They are just spectacular physically and psychologically. Feel like the king of the gym. I don't think I look normal, but don't really care.

I feel like I am handling the Tren pretty well. After being pretty chill all day yesterday, then pulse started to race a little bit close to bedtime!! Just my luck LOL. But crashed out easily and stayed asleep most of the night.
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When I was on oral Tren, which I know is hardly compareable. Lol but I mostly noticed the anxiety and heart rate when I was relaxing and watching tv right before bed. I think it was because I finally was slowing down and that just made it easier to notice.
 
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