When the Solution asked that - I was in agreement with him. When Islandiron responded, I was in agreement with him.
I am always glad to hear people questioning the logic of "don't eat at night" - this idea NEVER made sense to me. It is just dogma. It's crazy that people think eating after some magical hour is going to make much of any difference, and the science actually has evidence that eating a big breakfast is not good for you either - but everyone thinks eating a big breakfast and not eating after X at night is the way to do it.
Islandiron's response, however, shows that what he is really doing has less to do with the time of the day and more to do with an intermittent fasting type setup, which I think can be beneficial.
And both of you have more success and experience than me, so maybe what I say is irrelevant.
Agree with you on the dogma of eating at night.
because there is research out there to show that eating more at night (Carbs) can help with seretonin levels + increased sleep
or greater fatloss:
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"By ingesting high-carb meals in the morning, the same “metabolic inflexibility” occurred, and the metabolism is fixed towards glucose oxidation instead of fat oxidation. This also increases fat storage from meals eaten during the day, and higher-fat meals eaten in the evening in particular.
-- By ingesting high-carb meals in the evening, you get a bump in the natural leptin signal (occurring 3-6hrs after going to sleep), essentially increasing fat burning through the night and the rest of the following day.
-- Insulin sensitivity is higher in all cells early in the day, including fat cells, but decreases towards the afternoon and evening, thus partitioning carbs ingested at this time more efficiently into muscle vs. fat. This is obviously further improved by training the muscle that day.
-- Eating carbs will increase the feel-good neurotransmitter serotonin and make you sleepy. What better time to have your carbs than a couple of hours before bedtime so you can fall into a deeper, higher-quality sleep"
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Minimal changes of hormonal circadian rhythms were documented suggesting that the hypothalamus-hypophysis network is scarcely affected by meal timing. Weight loss did not vary in both short- and long-term protocol.
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While it's interesting to note that lipid oxidation (fat burning) was consistently higher in the PM-group, the duration of the study (15 days) was very shor
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In this study participants alternated between two 6-week phases of the same diet of which 70% of the daily caloric intake was eaten in the morning or evening respectively. Larger morning meals caused greater weight loss compared to evening meals, but the extra weight lost was in the form of muscle mass.
Overall, the larger evening meals preserved muscle mass better and resulted in a greater loss in body fat percentage.
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It might be worth noting that nitrogen loss, which is a rough marker for muscle loss, was not affected by eating time or meal frequency; there was no difference between the 5-meal phase or the 22-hour fasting phases with one AM/PM-meal.
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Both groups lost weight and saw improvements on several health markers, but group B lost more weight (-11 kg vs -9 kg), body fat (-7% vs -5%), stayed fuller and more satiety, and improved their hormonal profile more than group A:
But what I found most interesting, at least for those of us who want to maintain low body fat, was that the carb-rich dinner increased average leptin levels compared to the standard diet:
Our experimental diet might manipulate daily leptin secretion, leading to higher relative concentrations throughout the day. We propose that this modification of hormone secretion helped participants experience greater satiety during waking hours, enhance diet maintenance over time and have better anthropometric outcomes.
... for me I tend to like fasting the entire day, doing cardio before my cheat, then having a pretty massive meal and fasting the following day. Lets see what all you guys have to say now
