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Water Retention and Bloating

jgntyce

jgntyce

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Other than Alphamax (great product by the way) are there other supplements that reduce water retention and bloating?
 
AI products
Cortisol control products

Drink more water
Eat fewer carbs
 
More potassium, too. "Water follows sodium," more potassium forces your body to purge extra sodium along with water (hooray aldosterone).

Lots of high-K green veggies will do the trick. Most potassium supplements are laughably low anyway. Using a KCl/NaCl salt blend in your cooking/seasoning can help a lot, too.
 
Abliderate Ammo, Inhibit E, AlphaDex come to mind.

Dry Rub/Uretix if you have a show coming up.

The dietary recommendations are spot on as well.
 
Geoforce said:
Abliderate Ammo, Inhibit E, AlphaDex come to mind.

Dry Rub/Uretix if you have a show coming up.

The dietary recommendations are spot on as well.
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big fan of inhibit-e...it doesn't work as fast as arimistane products, but gets the job done without any side effects..for me anyways.
 
I'm definitely an inhibit e person myself as well. Check it out at Strong Supplement Shop for more info on it.
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thebigt said:
big fan of inhibit-e...it doesn't work as fast as arimistane products, but gets the job done without any side effects..for me anyways.
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How long did effects take to kick in? Id assume based off ingredients it will be similar to erase pro and take a few weeks?
 
jgntyce said:
yes, but I'm not on cycle right now. I asked for a PH cycle that I will run in a few weeks.
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Gotcha! BTW, Elimistane has Arimistane , as well as E. Cottonii and a Chrysin Cyclodextrin complex :). The other recommendations are all solid as well, just wanted to make you aware :)
 
NoAddedHmones said:
How long did effects take to kick in? Id assume based off ingredients it will be similar to erase pro and take a few weeks?
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yup...it takes some time to kick in, but without the achy joints and loss of libido....very effective once it does kick in!!!
 
thebigt said:
yup...it takes some time to kick in, but without the achy joints and loss of libido....very effective once it does kick in!!!
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Got a couple of bottles sitting in my drawer may be a perfect addition to finish off my cut while taking a stim break!
 
Nyrin said:
More potassium, too. "Water follows sodium," more potassium forces your body to purge extra sodium along with water (hooray aldosterone).

Lots of high-K green veggies will do the trick. Most potassium supplements are laughably low anyway. Using a KCl/NaCl salt blend in your cooking/seasoning can help a lot, too.
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please stop posting
 
Big Papi said:
no, read a high school level physiology text book.
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His post is to even out electrolyte intake for water balance.

But you knew that?

Should add that it is common for a diet high in sodium to cause retention and it can be fixed buly either keeping intake constantly elevated, dropping it or balancing it with more potassium.

It would only work if the issue is sodium
 
Jiigzz said:
His post is to even out electrolyte intake for water balance.

But you knew that?

Should add that it is common for a diet high in sodium to cause retention and it can be fixed buly either keeping intake constantly elevated, dropping it or balancing it with more potassium.

It would only work if the issue is sodium
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you do know that aldosterone maintains blood pressure via na+ and water reabsorption, right? i'm assuming you also know that hyperkalemia triggers the release of aldosterone from the adrenal cortex, right? this is basic information- please do some reading before chiming in.
 
Woah thought this was an easy thread lol

In terms of bloating if sodium related, potassium absolutely helps.

Extra intracellular shift of fluid.

And having adequate potassium is very important.

More important than the amount of either sodium or potassium is the ratio between them.
 
First of all, I just don't understand the hostility. I can't imagine much anything being worthy of this level of vitriol and "****s given," let alone something like this.

Second of all, we're not talking about intakes to induce hyperkalemia here. Barring disorders, it's really hard to reach hyperkalemia without abuse of supplemental potassium sources.

RDA for potassium exceeds 4-5g/d for adults and I'm betting you'd be hard-pressed to find many people on "normal" (i.e. low-vegetable) diets approaching even half of that. Having a 2 : 1 (or worse!) sodium : potassium ratio will *absolutely* have negative repercussions that can include additional water retention (much transient, a little not so transient). Getting potassium up to a few grams per day is not only a good general health measure, but can also most definitely dispel electrolyte-induced water retention in a hurry.

I honestly think that looking at dietary influences first is a little bit more responsible than jumping on the "oh, hey, let's sell you an anti-estrogen supplement!" bandwagon -- not only does that not necessarily do a thing for water retention (assuming normal E levels), but it can actually be detrimental to other aspects of health (joints, bones, etc.) when done recklessly. Not that OTC supps are likely to tank anyone that badly, but the last thing someone needs is to go wild on a strong RC product. The OP doesn't even contain the "on cycle" part of the equation.

But yes, I certainly quail in my ignorance and meekly submit to your vastly superior knowledge and understanding that you choose to mete out at your leisure. Or not.
 
this debate or w/e you want to call it is likely redundant. The most likely cause of bloating on cycle is going to be high estrogen, not something id use an otc product for personally. its one thing to take otc for preventative measures, its another to say oh i have problems with estrogen and am going to use otc to combat it.
 
^ totally compound dependant.

Also, being on any anabolic impairs your ability to remove sodium. On cycle it is highly recommended to consume less, this is another factor in high BP on cycles, in addition to increased RBC, etc
 
Nyrin said:
First of all, I just don't understand the hostility. I can't imagine much anything being worthy of this level of vitriol and "****s given," let alone something like this.

Second of all, we're not talking about intakes to induce hyperkalemia here. Barring disorders, it's really hard to reach hyperkalemia without abuse of supplemental potassium sources.

RDA for potassium exceeds 4-5g/d for adults and I'm betting you'd be hard-pressed to find many people on "normal" (i.e. low-vegetable) diets approaching even half of that. Having a 2 : 1 (or worse!) sodium : potassium ratio will *absolutely* have negative repercussions that can include additional water retention (much transient, a little not so transient). Getting potassium up to a few grams per day is not only a good general health measure, but can also most definitely dispel electrolyte-induced water retention in a hurry.

I honestly think that looking at dietary influences first is a little bit more responsible than jumping on the "oh, hey, let's sell you an anti-estrogen supplement!" bandwagon -- not only does that not necessarily do a thing for water retention (assuming normal E levels), but it can actually be detrimental to other aspects of health (joints, bones, etc.) when done recklessly. Not that OTC supps are likely to tank anyone that badly, but the last thing someone needs is to go wild on a strong RC product.

But yes, I certainly quail in my ignorance and meekly submit to your vastly superior knowledge and understanding that you choose to mete out at your leisure. Or not.
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based off my previous post, you should realize that i'm referring to your poor understanding of aldosterone. either way, potassium supplementation would have minimal effect in curbing on-cycle water retention. renal sex-hormone and mineralocorticoid receptor activation increase sodium (and thus water) reabsorption- there lies your problem. i also wouldn't advise anyone to start messing with their potassium.

probably shouldn't have come at you so hard, just annoyed of seeing monkeys spouting off nonsense on bodybuilding forums.


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Driven2lift said:
^ totally compound dependant.

Also, being on any anabolic impairs your ability to remove sodium. On cycle it is highly recommended to consume less, this is another factor in high BP on cycles, in addition to increased RBC, etc
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touche. i should have said, 1 highly likely factor is high estrogen, which plenty of common compounds will effect and would not use alphamax or anything of the like to control problems with. i guess i went on that train of thought cause he specifically said supplements, and assumed diet would be in check.
 
Big Papi said:
you do know that aldosterone maintains blood pressure via na+ and water reabsorption, right? i'm assuming you also know that hyperkalemia triggers the release of aldosterone from the adrenal cortex, right? this is basic information- please do some reading before chiming in.
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Whether or not the explanation was correct, the recommendation still stands.

Your logical fallacy is "the fallacy fallacy" and "ad hominem"

Tempted to neg for being a condesending douche.
 
Big Papi said:
based off my previous post, you should realize that i'm referring to your poor understanding of aldosterone. either way, potassium supplementation would have minimal effect in curbing on-cycle water retention. renal sex-hormone and mineralocorticoid receptor activation increase sodium (and thus water) reabsorption- there lies your problem. i also wouldn't advise anyone to start messing with their potassium.

probably shouldn't have come at you so hard, just annoyed of seeing monkeys spouting off nonsense on bodybuilding forums.


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Before you start calling people monkeys, perhaps you should step back and breathe a little. We didn't know he was on cycle as it is not mentioned in the OP - the recommendation shifts a bit if this is the case, but how were we expected to know?
 
Jiigzz said:
Whether or not the explanation was correct, the recommendation still stands.

Your logical fallacy is "the fallacy fallacy" and "ad hominem"

Tempted to neg for being a condesending douche.
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don't care, and your recommendation is off-base. supplementing with k+ to curb water retention is a waste of money and could possibly be dangerous- it's not something anyone should recommend, but if you think you know better than more power to you.
 
This is way above my head, but iforce promote the dry look wiht there tropinol xp test booster, is that related to potassium?
 
Big Papi said:
don't care, and your recommendation is off-base. supplementing with k+ to curb water retention is a waste of money and could possibly be dangerous- it's not something anyone should recommend, but if you think you know better than more power to you.
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Who said supplement? Reread the thread

Even if the suggestion was incorrect, a simple explanation would have sufficed.
 
Jiigzz said:
Youre too right. But i do think being called a monkey and uneducated over one suggestion is a bit much

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i agree...you have made too many valid contributions to this forum to be flamed like that!!!

keep up the good work!!!
 
I've not really messed with my carbs, but on my current cut i'm using Reduce XT + Inhibit E + Growth Factor XT pre bed. I'm pretty damn dry, more so than i expected.

Without supplements? Safest way would be to lower carbs, and increase water. Not too much on the water though, you can over-do it lol.
 
Big Papi said:
don't care, and your recommendation is off-base. supplementing with k+ to curb water retention is a waste of money and could possibly be dangerous- it's not something anyone should recommend, but if you think you know better than more power to you.[/QUOTE

Lol potassium supplements come are 99mgs. Like Already stated the usda is 4000 mgs. Also it takes a **** ton to kill you and highly unlikely anybody would ever do it. Lol unless you eat 400-500 bananas a day your fine. I personally take in a fair amount and a lot more than any ****ty supement will give and it only comes from eating a few bowls of spinache everyday.
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