what do you think about this pre?

[redman24]

hey, this will be released in the UK soon, what do you think? this is one scoop, thirty scoops per tub. dosing recommenation should be half to one scoop, not more than one.

Creatinol-o-phosphate 2grams
Trimethylglycine 2500 mg
Dlpa 2000 mg
Sulbutiamine 600 mg
N-methyl-beta-
methylphenylethyamine 100 mg
Amp-citrate 300 mg
Caffeine 300 mg
Theanine 200 mg
Sensoril 225 mg
Pterostilbene 100 mg

 

[carmaf]

I hope this doesn't come across as too douche-ish, but I really don't understand this half-assed stim obsession. If you are going to mess around with products with psuedo-amphetamine properties or other untested stims, why not just take meth or cocaine or adderall? At least we know those work, and there is at least research on those compounds.

Don't half-ass it, don't be a *****, just go all the way. It would probably be much safer, and more effective, than buying products like this from shady supp companies where you don't even know what you are getting.

Same thing with people who take half-asses anabolics. Just do your research, take proper steroids, be safe, have fun. I'm not trying to preach, maybe I'm just an extremist, but I really don't understand this middle ground mentality.

Also what does it say about the state of fitness where people are so reliant on pres, or stims in general, just to get a good workout in? Oh well, to each their own. I generally want to understand this, I hope I didn't come across as a dick(although I realize I probably did).

 

[redman24]

well, this is much stronger than dextroamphetamine, i have taken it. for a workout, this gives way more motivation, energy, euphoria etc.
dex just makes me awake

 

[redman24]

well those stims actually in conjunction work on a uch broader spectrum of neurotransmitters than speed or cocaine etc. therefore creating a much more balanced effect.

 

[carmaf]

well, this is much stronger than dextroamphetamine, i have taken it. for a workout, this gives way more motivation, energy, euphoria etc.
dex just makes me awake

Hahah well I'm glad you aren't a half-asser, and I appreciate the honesty.

I haven't tried it personally, and I don't want to promote drug use, but I heard Adderall is the ****.

 

[Driven2lift]

Formula looks like stims + stims + stims

Add some High Volume and you are good

 

[carmaf]

well those stims actually in conjunction work on a uch broader spectrum of neurotransmitters than speed or cocaine etc. therefore creating a much more balanced effect.

That would make sense. I'm pretty ignorant of chemistry as a whole, but I can understand this line of reasoning.

 

[LeanEngineer]

We've got a stim junky haha

 

[redman24]

yeah it would stack well but the purpose was a strong stimulant product. and it contains cop, tmg, sensoril, pterostilbene.
the ingredients are actually very expensive. those are not ****ty stims. that pea analogue is special.
as much as i am a fan of non stim performance enhancement, this will most likely outperform anything else on the market.
there is a reason for each of those stims. the dlpa for example is an ignored ingredient, far superior to tyrosine as it gives pain relief and makes you train like the weights are not even weights, when included in a good stim blend.