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ECA - ECY

Synapsin said:
You should not be eating anywhere near your EC dose.
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What effects of ephedrine and/or caffeine are attenuated by food? I know yohimbine dies a miserable death when it fails to compete with insulin, but I wasn't aware of EC being hampered by eating.
 
Nyrin said:
What effects of ephedrine and/or caffeine are attenuated by food? I know yohimbine dies a miserable death when it fails to compete with insulin, but I wasn't aware of EC being hampered by eating.
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Eating alters gastric pH and makes it harder for ephedrine to be properly absorbed. Lots of other reasons to factor in as well, like insulin, lipoprotein lipase regulation, etc. Lets think of it logically: one of the best aspects of EC is it's appetite suppression, so why use it and then eat soon after? Neuron touched on this on BB.com a few years ago.
 
Synapsin said:
Eating alters gastric pH and makes it harder for ephedrine to be properly absorbed. Lots of other reasons to factor in as well, like insulin, lipoprotein lipase regulation, etc. Lets think of it logically: one of the best aspects of EC is it's appetite suppression, so why use it and then eat soon after? Neuron touched on this on BB.com a few years ago.
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I think I remember this...he specifically mentioned taking EC with a minuscule amount of water...I forget the exact amount, but he did specify and it wasn't a lot at all. Or I just made it all up in my imagination, idk...
 
todd muelheim said:
I think I remember this...he specifically mentioned taking EC with a minuscule amount of water...I forget the exact amount, but he did specify and it wasn't a lot at all. Or I just made it all up in my imagination, idk...
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Idk how i feel about not drinking much water with this stack. Due to how it tends to dry out your throat and mouth, i tend to drink extra water.
 
If anyone has any links saved up on good further reading on the EC meal timing considerations (like neuron's aforementioned info), I'd really like to get more educated. I've been blindly employing the Wake, Wake+4h, Wake+8h dosing pretty much naively of food or water intake -- if I can optimize, I want to optimize!
 
todd muelheim said:
I think I remember this...he specifically mentioned taking EC with a minuscule amount of water...I forget the exact amount, but he did specify and it wasn't a lot at all. Or I just made it all up in my imagination, idk...
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I wouldn't stress too much about that as long as you're not chugging water when you take it.

Nyrin said:
If anyone has any links saved up on good further reading on the EC meal timing considerations (like neuron's aforementioned info), I'd really like to get more educated. I've been blindly employing the Wake, Wake+4h, Wake+8h dosing pretty much naively of food or water intake -- if I can optimize, I want to optimize!
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I've done and ECY stack for contest prep did wonders for me. I was wondering it anyone knew, after a cycle of epistane how long should I wait to run an ecy stack again?
 
I'm a lot better today, guys! Thanks for all the info! Hopefully it stays like this! :)
 
Bradruz said:
Takes roughly 4 days for your body/mind to get used to ECA
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Now I'm up and cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, folding laundry, cleaning the bathroom, organizing my clothes. Omg....... o.O
 
puccah8808 said:
Now I'm up and cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, folding laundry, cleaning the bathroom, organizing my clothes. Omg....... o.O
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So it's great for training women?

:D
 
Synapsin said:
I wouldn't stress too much about that as long as you're not chugging water when you take it.

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I hate BB.com, when someone has real info it's always bashed by someone who has no idea what he's saying. However, it good to know, fast at least 1-2 hours after taking EC
 
Well I was on ECA for almost 3 weeks. Like I stated earlier I started to get kidney aches... Went off ECA and drank a LOT of water. Finally 3 days later my kidneys feel great. Not sure what went wrong with my stack... Diet in check and taking moderate dosages of E. However in those 3 weeks i did manage to lose 12lbs!
Coming off EC my body feels worn down, low energy and very sluggish!
Considering trying another avenue. Any suggestions?
 
I understand that the second ingredient in these products (guaifenesin) causes kidney stones in a small portion of people. About 1% or so. This may be why you were having kidney pain. Were you drinking plenty of water?
 
I did ecy so if I were you I'd do that. Cut back to 2 doses/day and see how your kidneys feel, drink a lot of water 1.5gal+
 
Ohh I wasn't aware these were still sold. Do you just go up to the counter and ask the pharmacist for it?
 
TN Lift said:
Ohh I wasn't aware these were still sold. Do you just go up to the counter and ask the pharmacist for it?
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Yep. Bronkaid or Primatene. You'll need to scan your ID or have it written in a log (old school!) and there are both daily and monthly limits, but that's it.
 
Nyrin said:
Yep. Bronkaid or Primatene. You'll need to scan your ID or have it written in a log (old school!) and there are both daily and monthly limits, but that's it.
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Yah, I think there's a limit of 3 a month. Most drug stores scan your ID while most of the grocery stores just log it in.
 
Gotta love the Nanny State. No problem if you want lung cancer though, we'll just check a date...unless you look old enough, smoke up!
 
I keep saying, smart bodybuilders make Canadian friends ;)
 
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