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Celtic DMZ and Trest cycle critique

5ourdiesel

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Getting ready for my late winter bulk. Last cycle was 2 years ago and was epi/tren with dienazone base. Gyno from that cycle was a bitch so I'm a little hesitant on big doses of trest.

Current Lifts @ 6’1 203lbs:
Bench: 305
Squat: 430
Deadlift: 475
OHP:175

Celtic DMZ 6 weeks : 45/45/45-60/60/60/60
Celtic Trestoderm and OL dermatrest- 8 weeks: 50-75 for 8 weeks

OL Tr3st oral: Debating whether I should take 1-2 pills ED PWO or should I just focus on TD applications?

Osta: Might run it at 10mg during weeks 6-8 and into the first week or two during PCT. I've seen bloodwork from users taking it at 10mg and it does seem like it promotes shutdown. Still debating. ..


Tudca:~750mg
Fish oil:~4mg
Orange Triad Greens
Cissus
CEL Cycle Assist
Formeron 2-3 pumps
PreJym
Creatine


PCT 6 weeks:

Torem: 60/60/60/30/30/30
Clomid: 50/50/50/25/25/25
Formeron: 2 pumps
Follidrone: 2 caps
DAA
Have prami and letro on hand but as a last resort only

Let me know what you guys would change or add
 
You need more than just formeron for a ai. That trest is strong homie. I needed armistane on top of formastane for my last trest run and I am not gyno prone. Also, shorten pct to 4 weeks so clomid 50/50/25/25 and torem at 60/60/30/30. You can run the formeron 2 weeks past the serms to prevent rebound. Trest is an awesome compound as long as you can keep estrogen in check
 
yates84 said:
You need more than just formeron for a ai. That trest is strong homie. I needed armistane on top of formastane for my last trest run and I am not gyno prone. Also, shorten pct to 4 weeks so clomid 50/50/25/25 and torem at 60/60/30/30. You can run the formeron 2 weeks past the serms to prevent rebound. Trest is an awesome compound as long as you can keep estrogen in check
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Formestane in my experience is strong enough for trest. I ran up to 100-125mg of trest and used 150mg of formestane to control e2. Third week I did have to go up to 200mg on formestane for a few days but then dialed it back to 150.
 
goodvibes said:
Formestane in my experience is strong enough for trest. I ran up to 100-125mg of trest and used 150mg of formestane to control e2. Third week I did have to go up to 200mg on formestane for a few days but then dialed it back to 150.
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Was running up to 125mg my self, 3rd week estrogen got crazy and I had to go back down and hike up my ai's. Still not a bad idea to have something strong on hand just in case
 
yates84 said:
Was running up to 125mg my self, 3rd week estrogen got crazy and I had to go back down and hike up my ai's. Still not a bad idea to have something strong on hand just in case
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That's true it is always a plus having something layin for a just in case situations
 
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I think your cycle and pct look on point. You should have a better ai on hand just in case. I never have much problem with estrogen but still taking .375 mg adex every 3 days running 450 mg trest D with diobolix and dianodrol.
 
One more question

I have 1 bottle of oral Tr3st. Do you guys think I should just focus on the TD application of trest or should I take 25mg oral tr3st as preworkout as well? I've heard some people love taking tr3st as preworkout but I'm always skeptical of placebo.
 
5ourdiesel said:
One more question

I have 1 bottle of oral Tr3st. Do you guys think I should just focus on the TD application of trest or should I take 25mg oral tr3st as preworkout as well? I've heard some people love taking tr3st as preworkout but I'm always skeptical of placebo.
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I say go for it But more trest = more methyl estrogen
 
5ourdiesel said:
One more question

I have 1 bottle of oral Tr3st. Do you guys think I should just focus on the TD application of trest or should I take 25mg oral tr3st as preworkout as well? I've heard some people love taking tr3st as preworkout but I'm always skeptical of placebo.
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It probably depends on the brand. I personally didn't feel any difference using oral trest preworkout at 25 & 50mg. It felt like nothing, so I think the one I got was bunk.
 
I got a bottle of DermTrest that I really wanna run with my upcoming Epi cycle but cannot decide on an AI I'm only running 50mg of Trest as a base so I don't wanna overdo it on the AI and cannot find Formestane anymore due to the BAN smh any suggestions for AI on low dose Trest?
 
eddiesr123 said:
I got a bottle of DermTrest that I really wanna run with my upcoming Epi cycle but cannot decide on an AI I'm only running 50mg of Trest as a base so I don't wanna overdo it on the AI and cannot find Formestane anymore due to the BAN smh any suggestions for AI on low dose Trest?
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Exemestane would be a good ai for you.
 
5ourdiesel said:
Getting ready for my late winter bulk. Last cycle was 2 years ago and was epi/tren with dienazone base. Gyno from that cycle was a bitch so I'm a little hesitant on big doses of trest.

Current Lifts @ 6'1 203lbs:
Bench: 305
Squat: 430
Deadlift: 475
OHP:175

Celtic DMZ 6 weeks : 45/45/45-60/60/60/60
Celtic Trestoderm and OL dermatrest- 8 weeks: 50-75 for 8 weeks

OL Tr3st oral: Debating whether I should take 1-2 pills ED PWO or should I just focus on TD applications?

Osta: Might run it at 10mg during weeks 6-8 and into the first week or two during PCT. I've seen bloodwork from users taking it at 10mg and it does seem like it promotes shutdown. Still debating. ..

Tudca:~750mg
Fish oil:~4mg
Orange Triad Greens
Cissus
CEL Cycle Assist
Formeron 2-3 pumps
PreJym
Creatine

PCT 6 weeks:

Torem: 60/60/60/30/30/30
Clomid: 50/50/50/25/25/25
Formeron: 2 pumps
Follidrone: 2 caps
DAA
Have prami and letro on hand but as a last resort only

Let me know what you guys would change or add
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Personally I always just run a SERM like Nolva on cycle when running Trest. Its all I need. And then no need to run an AI and run it too high or too low and then suffer the consequences
 
Looks like a solid plan. Good idea to have an ai and prami on hand like you do. I would do the ostarine bridge but that's just me. It does contribute to shutdown, but with only 10mg coming off the cycle you should still recover a bit before hitting pct.
 
Might not need to increase the DMZ to 60mgs. 45mg should be a decent amount IMO.
 
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