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Perpetual Incineration - IronChamp USA's T.N.T. (Sponsored

Well, now that you called me out for being a d!ck I should probably follow along too. :-P
 
Morning weigh in: (no bowel movement this morning)
Weight: 168.6
Waist: 33.1-33.3 (measure tape is a bit wonky)

Caliper 3-Point Test: (after 3-4 tests)
Chest: 9-10 (let's say 10)
Abdominal: 16
Thigh: 12

BB.com 3-point calc says I'm at 11% bf with 149.5lbs lbm, while linear-software puts me in at 10.96% bf with 150.6lbs of lbm.

Compared to last week:
Weight:
01/06 - 169.4lbs
01/15 - 168.6 (-0.8lbs)
Waist Size:
01/06 - 33.5in
01/15 - 33.2 (avg) (-0.3inches)

Notes
Not bad so far.
Even though I'm in the third week of UD2 already (technically 4th, but my first week back in the program I fcked around and didn't really deplete fully), I'm losing at much slower rate than I was last time I attempted this program in July-Aug.
Ironchamp TNT has definitely helped so far in the stim/focus/fat loss department.

Measurements so far: (taken from excel) (order: date, weight, chest measurement, ab measurement, thigh measurement)
12.25.2014 170 9.75 19 12 34
01.01.2015 167.6 9.5 16 12 33.5
01.15.2015 168.6 10 16 12 33.1

So far I've lost an inch off my waist in 3-4 weeks without losing any muscle.

Second Week Impressions
Stim is still holding up
No headaches
No BP changes
Very stackable
Very versatile ingredient profile -can be used for cut/bulk/lean gain phases

**Nudes Incoming Soon**
 
In! Love the details in your logs man, you should've told us earlier ha. That rant too... too funny. But also true.

Very interested in your peptide adventures as well.

One thought... probably should put the product description somewhere in early posts so people know what this product is and what its expected to do... I had to go read up
 
booneman77 said:
In! Love the details in your logs man, you should've told us earlier ha. That rant too... too funny. But also true.

Very interested in your peptide adventures as well.

One thought... probably should put the product description somewhere in early posts so people know what this product is and what its expected to do... I had to go read up
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AH! Good good thinking, man. I'll edit the front post. And thank you.

About the peptides, so far they're pretty cool. Even from a nootropic/life enhancement perspective. I remember reading in a past post of yours about pinning and about not being so bad, and I have to say I'm with you on that one. Subq injections are nothing. I mean sometimes they're painful if I fudge the angle, but the other than that -very effective.
 
In. I've been looking for a good fat burner, minus the crazy stims. I don't want anything that will cause my anxiety to go crazy.
 
puccah8808 said:
In. I've been looking for a good fat burner, minus the crazy stims. I don't want anything that will cause my anxiety to go crazy.
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Welcome :)

TNT AM as a single product is effective for appetite suppression, and as a mild thermo. If you're going to be using it as a single product I recommend stacking it with 50-100mg of forskolin (extract doesn't matter as long as you get 50-100mg of the active ingredient) because you need cAMP signaler to break down the adipose tissue TNT is releasing. On top of that a cortisol controller would be icing on the cake. Something like 2-5 grams of ashwaghanda. You can get these from Swanson or NOW Foods. No need to get fancy.

TNT PM will keep the furnace on at night. At 3 caps I'm very warm. It's probably the fucoxanthin activating brown fat.

Now if you want to get fancy, you can add in 10-20mg Biotin, 1000-1500mg of HCA (active ingredient in Garcinia) and Carnitine Tartrate. I won't go into specifics, but these three ingredients increase acetyl-CoA to help burn more fat naturally. It's not needed, but makes the fat loss experience easier. I actually took too much yesterday, went hypoglycemic and called out of the office, so it's very potent.

However the TNT stack with the aforementioned ingredients would be awesome.
 
The Engineer said:
AH! Good good thinking, man. I'll edit the front post. And thank you.

About the peptides, so far they're pretty cool. Even from a nootropic/life enhancement perspective. I remember reading in a past post of yours about pinning and about not being so bad, and I have to say I'm with you on that one. Subq injections are nothing. I mean sometimes they're painful if I fudge the angle, but the other than that -very effective.
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I've never done sub q with anything but considering my minor addiction to pinning I can only assume its fun ha. its like piercings or tattoos and I want them all.
 
booneman77 said:
I've never done sub q with anything but considering my minor addiction to pinning I can only assume its fun ha. its like piercings or tattoos and I want them all.
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It's sounds like a slippery slope.

I'm not tatted yet since I want something significant, but I can only imagine.

The annoying part is just having a sterile area.
 
Day 8

Tension Workout: (2-4 sets x 6-12 @ 75-85% 1rm)

Damn...

Seated Leg Press: 1x6, 1x7 - 630lbs
Bench Press off the Pins: 2x7 - 225lbs
Hack Slide Calf Press: 2x8, 1x10, 1x12 - 630lbs
Close Grip Lat Pulldown: 1x8, 1x7 - 170lbs
Lying Leg Curl: 2x8 - 155lbs
Leg Extension: 1x8, 1x12 - 175lbs
Seated Leg Curl: 1x8, 1x6 - 165lbs (legs were done and nearly failed)
Incline DB Bench Press: (about 22.5-35 degree angle) 1x8, 1x9 - 85lbs
Long Cable Lat Pull: 2x8 - 187lbs
Lateral DB Raise: 2x9 - 35lbs
Front DB Raise: 1x7 - 35lbs
Standing + Leaning DB Curl: 1x7, 1x7 - 35lbs
Wide Grip Tricep Pushdown - 1x8 - 88lbs, 1x7 - 93lbs

Pre-Workout Supplementation:
2 Caps TNT AM
4 Caps Cistamax
200mg Caff
2.5grams L-Tyrosine
1gram Taurine
3 Caps IronChamp Volume (had a few caps left of this)

TNT + Caffeine woke up the eff up. I was a mentally shot from the day and it was the perfect pick-me-up.
Pump = awesome
Aggression = awesome
Focus/drive = I scared people -not intentionally, however. I was rushing because I didn't want to start the CHO-load to late in the evening and I arrived at the gym at 7:20 and it was packed. It was disgusting.

Injected about 150mcg CJC-1295 w/DAC and 75-100mcg of GHRP-2 post-workout, showered, waited about 40 minutes and now I'm sitting with a shake comprised of:
1.9 (about) scoops of Iso-100 Cookies and Cream
8 grams of L-Leucine
1.25 cups of skim milk
77 grams of Trader Joe's Midnight Moo Syrup.

It's simple, but this drink is euphoric and when I'm utilizing UD2, I really look forward to it.

Get it now and stick it in your fridge:

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Today I also ordered an additional 2 vials of CJC-1295 with DAC 5mg and 4 vials of Ipamorelin 10mg with the intention of BOOM dosing CJC/Ipam on Thursday and Saturday evenings.
First, a BOOM dose can be anywhere from 0.5g to 2g of ipamorelin. Some have BOOM dosed GHRP-2/6, however since they release prolactin, and can lead to de-sensitization at these doses, it's not advised -unless you're the type of individual that 1) likes wasting money and 2) likes doing something only once a week since the pituitary bounces back very easily. The intention/theory behind BOOM dosing is to elevate GH levels for significantly longer periods than the other GHRPs and to elevate systemic IGF-1 as well as local effects. This comes with no side-effects as well (except for a lighter wallet, but we're in the business of physique altering so sometimes we have to live dangerously. Plus this BOOM dose is something that actually works. It's almost like front-loading a long acting ester like test decanoate). A BOOM dose of about 4mg will continue to be active for 5-6 hours after injection. However, 4mg is too heavy on the wallet, and 1-2mg has been proven to be effective. So, I will begin at 500mg and titrate upwards.
 
Love your rant!!!! :D

Geeeeeze, crazy leg curls. It hurts my hams just reading it.
 
The Engineer said:


Today I also ordered an additional 2 vials of CJC-1295 with DAC 5mg and 4 vials of Ipamorelin 10mg with the intention of BOOM dosing CJC/Ipam on Thursday and Saturday evenings.First, a BOOM dose can be anywhere from 0.5g to 2g of ipamorelin. Some have BOOM dosed GHRP-2/6, however since they release prolactin, and can lead to de-sensitization at these doses, it's not advised -unless you're the type of individual that 1) likes wasting money and 2) likes doing something only once a week since the pituitary bounces back very easily. The intention/theory behind BOOM dosing is to elevate GH levels for significantly longer periods than the other GHRPs and to elevate systemic IGF-1 as well as local effects. This comes with no side-effects as well (except for a lighter wallet, but we're in the business of physique altering so sometimes we have to live dangerously. Plus this BOOM dose is something that actually works. It's almost like front-loading a long acting ester like test decanoate). A BOOM dose of about 4mg will continue to be active for 5-6 hours after injection. However, 4mg is too heavy on the wallet, and 1-2mg has been proven to be effective. So, I will begin at 500mg and titrate upwards.
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Interested in how the "boom" doses work for you.Be careful and good luck.
 
The Engineer said:
It's sounds like a slippery slope. I'm not tatted yet since I want something significant, but I can only imagine. The annoying part is just having a sterile area.
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ha I'm not tatted either but had my lip pierced years ago and immediately wanted more. Had to hold back. I know if I got a tat it'd turn into a sleeve in like a year ha
 
booneman77 said:
ha I'm not tatted either but had my lip pierced years ago and immediately wanted more. Had to hold back. I know if I got a tat it'd turn into a sleeve in like a year ha
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Lol, I'm tatted and I wear gym clothes to work. :D
 
In for this ... I got AM/PM stack on the $9.99 sale. IronChamp threw in another bottle of each which I plan to log starting in about a month.

I was under the impression that it was not recommended to take with caffeine, but I see you are (200-300mg daily).
 
GNO said:
In for this ... I got AM/PM stack on the $9.99 sale. IronChamp threw in another bottle of each which I plan to log starting in about a month.

I was under the impression that it was not recommended to take with caffeine, but I see you are (200-300mg daily).
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Welcome.

Try it without it and try it with it and see what you like.

I'm a stim-head so my tolerance is higher than most.
 
The Engineer said:
Welcome.

Try it without it and try it with it and see what you like.

I'm a stim-head so my tolerance is higher than most.
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Cool. How much caffeine can you tolerate so I can compare to my stim tolerance level.
 
GNO said:
Cool. How much caffeine can you tolerate so I can compare to my stim tolerance level.
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It depends on many variables.

Currently: (knock on wood) my CNS is good, so I can tolerate medium doses, however I have reached as high as 600mg and peaked at 800mg in one bolus dose.

During this physique altering phase, I don't go more than 400mg in the morning and no more than 200mg in the evening.

This also depends on how many alb+caff stacks I've had throughout the day.

Clear cut: I can go up to 600mg, but I keep at 400mg in the AM and 200mg in the PM.
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You look great!!!! :D
 
Day 9

puccah8808 said:
You look great!!!! :D
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Shucks :05::veryhappy: Thank you

Power Workout
Squats: 1x5, 1x4, 1x6, 1x5 - 290lbs
Superset (but not technically since there was 2 minute rest in between each set -so this was a mere alteration)​
Flat Bench off the Pins: 5x5, 2x4 - 245lbs, 1x7 (pump set) - 185lbs
Parallel Pull Up in the rack: 6x5: 50lbs (db held between feet)
Flat Bench DB Flyes: 1x2 - 50lbs (this was a fiber stretching set: 10 sec hold) Stretched then pumped. I was wiped after this. Rested for 3 minutes then picked up my bearings and went to the next set.
Again, alternating sets:​
Close Stance Squat: 2x5, 1x6 - 250lbs
Hack Slide Calf Press: 4x6 - 720lbs (some kid that was doing quarter reps on the leg press threw a bitch fit because at this point I was nearly using up all the plates in the gym)
Again, alternating sets:​
Push Press off the Pins: 2x5, 1x4 - 140lbs
Rear Delt DB Raise: 2x5, 1x6 - 30lbs
Again, alternating sets:​
EZ Bar Curl: 1x5, 1x6 - 100lbs
Close Grip Bench Press off the Pins: 1x5, 1x6 - 185lbs

Pre-Workout Supplementation
2 Caps TNT
200mg Caff
2.5grams L-Tyrosine
8mg Albuterol
1grams Taurine
4 Caps Cistamax (this is only taken on these "anabolic" days of UD2 for it's glycogen storing effects/test boost [if there is any])

Notes
Great effing workout.
Had a headache a few times (maybe high BP) but nothing concerning.
The point of these workouts in UD2 is to regain any potential muscle lost during the VLC days. However, since this is an "anabolic" day, the potential to gain muscle on top of what you've already accrued is high. According to my excel sheet of my body measurements, in the first few weeks of my previous UD2 cycle, I gained 4lbs of LBM. Nonetheless, I wanted to beat the log book today, so perhaps I was simply intimidated by the weights.
Other than that, nothing else to report other than the whiny girly-men that I had to deal with at the gym.

The pictures are right after this workout, so there's slightly more water retention than normal.

Post Workout
150mcg CJC 1295 w/DAC
100mcg GHRP-2

Waited thirty minutes, then had an iso shake with 10g Leucine. Post workout meal: whole tray (462 grams) of Perdue Lean Ground Chicken
I will be following a "Carbless PWO" period for about 6 hours on these power days to take advantage of the increased insulin sensitivity from the workout. And since my ATP stores were full from the carbload before, I don't have to worry about them being full for adequate muscle repair.
 
The Engineer said:
It depends on many variables.

Currently: (knock on wood) my CNS is good, so I can tolerate medium doses, however I have reached as high as 600mg and peaked at 800mg in one bolus dose.

During this physique altering phase, I don't go more than 400mg in the morning and no more than 200mg in the evening.

This also depends on how many alb+caff stacks I've had throughout the day.

Clear cut: I can go up to 600mg, but I keep at 400mg in the AM and 200mg in the PM.
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Interesting, that's over double what I can handle & your not really that big a guy at 170 lbs...appreciate the info. I'm also interested in your use of Cistamax, I have a bottle from an intro sale and still deciding when and how to use it.
 
GNO said:
Interesting, that's over double what I can handle & your not really that big a guy at 170 lbs...appreciate the info. I'm also interested in your use of Cistamax, I have a bottle from an intro sale and still deciding when and how to use it.
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I'm not going to go into AS's write up, but I'm using it preworkout on my Thursday and Saturday workouts. I just dose 4 caps an hour before. I notice an increase in endurance and that's basically it. Like you, I bought in the intro sale, but I will not be restocking.
 
The Engineer said:
I'm not going to go into AS's write up, but I'm using it preworkout on my Thursday and Saturday workouts. I just dose 4 caps an hour before. I notice an increase in endurance and that's basically it. Like you, I bought in the intro sale, but I will not be restocking.
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Why not on Monday or Tuesday for the supposed muscle recovery effect or for that matter everyday?
 
GNO said:
Why not on Monday or Tuesday for the supposed muscle recovery effect or for that matter everyday?
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Not needed, plus it increases glycogen storage. This is the antithesis of my purpose on Monday through Thursday afternoon of this protocol.
 
Small Update

This isn't TNT AM related.

I dosed 500mcg of Ipamorelin last night with 100mcg of CJC-1295 w/DAC and woke up with pronounced muscle fullness, definition and hardness. After this power days, I do usually wake up with these effects, but not this pronounced. I also felt extremely recovered despite going to sleep at 4:45am and waking up at 12:30pm.

To those considering peptides, I highly recommend adding this to your protocol. This should only be done once or twice week preferably after very heavy days where recovery is necessary.

Aside: I don't have that much experience with exogenous hormones, however I have done hours of research and it is one of the fields I'm considering for my masters/PhD work. One of the notable effects that all who have researched with hormones will comment on is increased recovery and feelings of well-being. I can't compare the two since I don't have on-hand experience, but I will say that recovery on peptides in exponentially increased. It takes 5-7 days to take effect, but one they're in full swing these effects become increasingly apparent.
 
Dma378 said:
Holy crap just read a little about CJC 1295 and it can be injected intravenously!!! That is wild.
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Dma378 said:
Not that I would try that, but still seems crazy.
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Yes, but only if you have the necessary equipment.

Most of the research is done on IV injections, however SUBQ works just as well. IM can be done directly for deep wound/tendon healing, however there are better peptides for these situations such BPC-157 and TB-500 (thymosin beta 4).

For performance enhancement/recovery CJC 1295 w/dac or Mod GRF (1-29) coupled with a GHRP such as GHRP-2 or Ipamorelin.

CJC is prolonged released leading to elevated GH levels and Mod GRF provides higher peaks but returns to baseline after 3 hours. CJC provides NEW baselines and GH elevations. If going this route, an "off" period or a period where Mod GRF (1-29) is utilized is required.
 
booneman77 said:
same here. When I drink it's the fruitiest, sweetest stuff I can find ha. The "girlier" the better
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lol, I thought it was just me.
 
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