Ostarine Questions

kissdadookie said:
Nothing wrong with stacking ostarine with another PH/DS. Best times to use it is either as a stacker (benefits are questionable and it's an expensive stacker) and/or as a stand alone bridge into another cycle.
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I had a thread before and the vote wasn't too popular in running osta with ph/aas. With that said I ran it anyways since it's super cheap imo. Currently on osta 20mg and stacked with trest at 125mg a day. So far my strength is still up, I was on dmz for 6 weeks prior to this.
 
Great thread, actually read the whole dang thing :-)

Other than the 2000-2004 era, where I ran BioTest Androsol/NorAndrosol (remember the spray) and then Mag10 Legacy - I've always just been a "Natural Test Booster" guy. Placebo or not, they "work" for me, and at my age, libido is as important as anything else, LOL.

I'm 48

I do a stack of all the usual suspects - Trib, Fenugreek, HGW, LongJack, DAA etc... Starting Jan 1 I'll be adding Bulbine and Fadogia after doing some research on examine.com.

***I also bought a bottle of BSL PCT IV Ostarine**** after just coming across SARMS, thanks to this forum.

After this thread, I think I'm going to stick to 12mg (1 Capsule) per day x 4 weeks. Originally it was going to be 24mg ED. I'm cutting, have about 20 LBs to go.

My question is should I run the BSL PCT IV @12mg as a stand alone, or can it be combined with the natural test boosters? From the info in this thread, I may scrap my previous plan of running everything together, and do the Ostarine stand alone for 4 weeks, and then the naturals for 4 weeks after that.

Thoughts?
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Great thread, actually read the whole dang thing :-)

Other than the 2000-2004 era, where I ran BioTest Androsol/NorAndrosol (remember the spray) and then Mag10 Legacy - I've always just been a "Natural Test Booster" guy. Placebo or not, they "work" for me, and at my age, libido is as important as anything else, LOL.

I'm 48

I do a stack of all the usual suspects - Trib, Fenugreek, HGW, LongJack, DAA etc... Starting Jan 1 I'll be adding Bulbine and Fadogia after doing some research on examine.com.

***I also bought a bottle of BSL PCT IV Ostarine**** after just coming across SARMS, thanks to this forum.

After this thread, I think I'm going to stick to 12mg (1 Capsule) per day x 4 weeks. Originally it was going to be 24mg ED. I'm cutting, have about 20 LBs to go.

My question is should I run the BSL PCT IV @12mg as a stand alone, or can it be combined with the natural test boosters? From the info in this thread, I may scrap my previous plan of running everything together, and do the Ostarine stand alone for 4 weeks, and then the naturals for 4 weeks after that.

Thoughts?
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It's fine to combine with pretty much any natty product you can think of. 12 mg a day, probably will have decent lean mass retention on a cut. Also probably won’t tank your libido like it tanked mine after 4 weeks (I dosed 2 caps a day, was planning to run two bottles back to back, I stopped after the first bottle though, was using it as an anabolic, really was not seeing much in terms of gains if any, might be different when using it on a cut though).

You can probably run it for 8-weeks without much side effects (individual dependent of course, my libido tanked at week 4 but I was also running double the dose you're planning to run, logic would dictate that you can go for longer with half the dose I was using before side effects if any start to manifest), so that’s 1 bottle @ 1 cap a day for 8 weeks that you can probably safely do.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Great thread, actually read the whole dang thing :-)

Other than the 2000-2004 era, where I ran BioTest Androsol/NorAndrosol (remember the spray) and then Mag10 Legacy - I've always just been a "Natural Test Booster" guy. Placebo or not, they "work" for me, and at my age, libido is as important as anything else, LOL.

I'm 48

I do a stack of all the usual suspects - Trib, Fenugreek, HGW, LongJack, DAA etc... Starting Jan 1 I'll be adding Bulbine and Fadogia after doing some research on examine.com.

***I also bought a bottle of BSL PCT IV Ostarine**** after just coming across SARMS, thanks to this forum.

After this thread, I think I'm going to stick to 12mg (1 Capsule) per day x 4 weeks. Originally it was going to be 24mg ED. I'm cutting, have about 20 LBs to go.

My question is should I run the BSL PCT IV @12mg as a stand alone, or can it be combined with the natural test boosters? From the info in this thread, I may scrap my previous plan of running everything together, and do the Ostarine stand alone for 4 weeks, and then the naturals for 4 weeks after that.

Thoughts?
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I'm 52 and in my 7th week of ostarine at 15mg Ed. I've had no side effects at all, and my libido is as strong or stronger than it was seven weeks ago. Im hoping to get blood work done after 8 weeks and see what effect it had on my test level. The gains have been less than what I expected however I have been eating conservatively just minimally above maintenance. I probably will run it again in a couple months possible at 20mg as well as increase calories more.
 
Fit1962 said:
I'm 52 and in my 7th week of ostarine at 15mg Ed. I've had no side effects at all, and my libido is as strong or stronger than it was seven weeks ago. Im hoping to get blood work done after 8 weeks and see what effect it had on my test level. The gains have been less than what I expected however I have been eating conservatively just minimally above maintenance. I probably will run it again in a couple months possible at 20mg as well as increase calories more.
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Think I'll try it at just 1 cap a day of PCT IV next time (12 mg) and see how that goes. I would think that the size of the dose would have a strong correlation with possible side effects manifesting or not.
 
kissdadookie said:
Think I'll try it at just 1 cap a day of PCT IV next time (12 mg) and see how that goes. I would think that the size of the dose would have a strong correlation with possible side effects manifesting or not.
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What are you thinking about the 1-dhea?
Has anyone on this forum found THE one, that works for most everyone? I've pretty much decided I am just not going to jump on the test train.
 
Fit1962 said:
What are you thinking about the 1-dhea?
Has anyone on this forum found THE one, that works for most everyone? I've pretty much decided I am just not going to jump on the test train.
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Dude, that chit is awesome. 4th week or so you start seeing scale weight gain (and I've been cutting calories some actually to help recomp, still up 6 lbs right now, lol). Going into the 3rd week you see strength gains.

No dribble pee like I had when using epistane (so the prostate appears to not have been impacted by 1-dhea). It's great, I'm running it as follows:

300 mg 1-dhea
200 mg 4-dhea

Using 1-Andro RX and 4-Andro RX from IronMag Labs.
 
kissdadookie said:
Dude, that chit is awesome. 4th week or so you start seeing scale weight gain (and I've been cutting calories some actually to help recomp, still up 6 lbs right now, lol). Going into the 3rd week you see strength gains.

No dribble pee like I had when using epistane (so the prostate appears to not have been impacted by 1-dhea). It's great, I'm running it as follows:

300 mg 1-dhea
200 mg 4-dhea

Using 1-Andro RX and 4-Andro RX from IronMag Labs.
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That sounds great! Maybe I'll try that before running ostarine again. Do you need pct afterwards? How long you running?
 
Fit1962 said:
What are you thinking about the 1-dhea? Has anyone on this forum found THE one, that works for most everyone? I've pretty much decided I am just not going to jump on the test train.
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I think 1-dhea is great. Have used AMS, Finaflex, and Iron Mag. They all work just have to dose it higher than label recommends and run at least 6 weeks. Stack it with 4-dhea, dermacrine, or just about anything...
 
Kutz2 said:
Thanks for the honest and most kind response. I don't get some of you on here. People just want advice and some of you just can't pull you head out of your butts. Thanks again
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I gave you my opinion, you can definitely run that stack but like mentioned hdrol will be the powerhouse of the two... osta can be used as another cycle at a later time.. 10mgs osta during pct will not inhibit your ability to recover properly..
 
Fit1962 said:
That sounds great! Maybe I'll try that before running ostarine again. Do you need pct afterwards? How long you running?
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I'm running it for 6-weeks since I only bought 4 bottles of 1-Andro RX. Should have grabbed 2 more bottles TBH. Perfectly ok to run it at the dosages I'm using for 8 weeks, especially since things really start ramping up going into the 6th.

Plus I already ran the ostarine for 4 weeks prior to the 1-dhea. Seemed the reasonable thing to do keeping the 1-dhea cycle moderate.

PCT'ing after this (soon, have like a week left). 50 mg of clomid ED for 4 weeks then 25 mg EOD for another 2-4 weeks. Will use 10 mg of nolva ED for the first two weeks of PCT as well as a precaution
 
kissdadookie said:
I'm running it for 6-weeks since I only bought 4 bottles of 1-Andro RX. Should have grabbed 2 more bottles TBH. Perfectly ok to run it at the dosages I'm using for 8 weeks, especially since things really start ramping up going into the 6th.

Plus I already ran the ostarine for 4 weeks prior to the 1-dhea. Seemed the reasonable thing to do keeping the 1-dhea cycle moderate.

PCT'ing after this (soon, have like a week left). 50 mg of clomid ED for 4 weeks then 25 mg EOD for another 2-4 weeks. Will use 10 mg of nolva ED for the first two weeks of PCT as well as a precaution
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Do you run any OTC or not needed?
 
Kendal07 said:
Do you run any OTC or not needed?
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Wtf is the OTC stuff going to do? You main goal is to get HPTA back in order, all the OTC stuff is possibly good extras but not necessary. I do like some of the herbal stuff like trib and what not, mainly because it helps when your libido is questionable. DAA is possibly good to use as well, but still an extra IMO, SERM first and foremost.
 
hvactech said:
10mgs osta during pct will not inhibit your ability to recover properly..
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You cant recover properly while your still being suppressed, and as little as 3mg osta has been shown to be suppressive. That said, once he's off osta it shouldn't be too hard to recover from as its only mildly suppressive.
 
anabolix said:
You cant recover properly while your still being suppressed, and as little as 3mg osta has been shown to be suppressive. That said, once he's off osta it shouldn't be too hard to recover from as its only mildly suppressive.
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Im not gonna debate this, whether or not one choses to run osta during pct is up to them... I will continue to run it during personally
 
hvactech said:
Im not gonna debate this, whether or not one choses to run osta during pct is up to them... I will continue to run it during personally
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I have used it in pct and wont debate this either. It may be debatable on whether or not osta is a good idea during pct, but saying you can fully recover while using something suppressive, is not. Of course you can recover AFTER the osta is discontinued.
 
anabolix said:
I have used it in pct and wont debate this either. It may be debatable on whether or not osta is a good idea during pct, but saying you can fully recover while using something suppressive, is not. Of course you can recover AFTER the osta is discontinued.
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that wasn't the context I was implying, each is their own....chive on!
 
kissdadookie said:
Wtf is the OTC stuff going to do? You main goal is to get HPTA back in order, all the OTC stuff is possibly good extras but not necessary. I do like some of the herbal stuff like trib and what not, mainly because it helps when your libido is questionable. DAA is possibly good to use as well, but still an extra IMO, SERM first and foremost.
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Sorry I meant do you use any on cycle support whilst you are on them (1 andro and 4 andro)?
 
Kendal07 said:
Sorry I meant do you use any on cycle support whilst you are on them (1 andro and 4 andro)?
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Not anything extra. I've been taking the following every day for awhile now regardless if I'm on or off:

Pantethine
q-Absorb
Curcumin (LEF brand, it's BCM-95)
Flame Out (2 gels a day, so a bottle lasts 2 months, it's in TG form)

I wouldn't really worry about 1 and 4 dheas, very low impact on your general health IMO at the doses I'm using. Ymmv.
 
kissdadookie said:
Not anything extra. I've been taking the following every day for awhile now regardless if I'm on or off:

Pantethine
q-Absorb
Curcumin (LEF brand, it's BCM-95)
Flame Out (2 gels a day, so a bottle lasts 2 months, it's in TG form)

I wouldn't really worry about 1 and 4 dheas, very low impact on your general health IMO at the doses I'm using. Ymmv.
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Thanks bro, I don't know much about PH, that is why I have asked about it.
 
kissdadookie & Fit1962,

Thanks for the info. 1 Cap PCT IV (12mg) it is, concurrently with all the herbal stuff. Then 4 weeks of nothing as "PCT" I guess. Thanks again.
 
i'm new here but read this thread from the start till the end.

First board I come across that has so much info about osatarine.
 
Amberlaura said:
i'm new here but read this thread from the start till the end.

First board I come across that has so much info about osatarine.
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Alot of conflicting info, at that. =D

I often wonder if people just do react very differently to it or if certain products aren't really Ostarine. Heck, I even wonder if any products are actually Ostarine...
 
blacklac said:
Alot of conflicting info, at that. =D I often wonder if people just do react very differently to it or if certain products aren't really Ostarine. Heck, I even wonder if any products are actually Ostarine...
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what is ostarine??? Haha the mystic supplement
 
blacklac said:
Alot of conflicting info, at that. =D

I often wonder if people just do react very differently to it or if certain products aren't really Ostarine. Heck, I even wonder if any products are actually Ostarine...
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I really haven't seen any feedback of actual gains from ostarine. Mainly the feedback has been more in the neighborhood of retention. If someone is making crazy gains off it, that makes me suspect if 1) they know what they are talking about or 2) their chit is spiked with the good stuff.
 
kissdadookie said:
I really haven't seen any feedback of actual gains from ostarine. Mainly the feedback has been more in the neighborhood of retention. If someone is making crazy gains off it, that makes me suspect if 1) they know what they are talking about or 2) their chit is spiked with the good stuff.
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I agree... I would only use on a cut at this point
 
If you're used to using roids, ostarine won't seem like much. But if someone is natural and goes to ostarine, they should notice a decent amount.
 
kissdadookie said:
I really haven't seen any feedback of actual gains from ostarine. Mainly the feedback has been more in the neighborhood of retention. If someone is making crazy gains off it, that makes me suspect if 1) they know what they are talking about or 2) their chit is spiked with the good stuff.
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I finished my 8 week run of ostarine today, 15mg Ed. I gained 1.6 lb. it's possible I may have lost a tiny bit of fat, but with the holidays it's hard to tell. I judge by abs and bicep vein. I ate prob 200-400 cal above maintenance. No sides whatsoever. I'm having my blood tested tomorrow and will compare with the start to see the effect on my test. I'll also start clomid tomorrow just in case.
 
if you dont mind a mild pct 50mgs of ostarine seems to help not only lean out along with strength gains, but also slow but steady lbm increases. in lieu of the ban and if testosterone is available, ostarine will be a staple for me. libido is fine. beyond drugs and supplements i try to continue to analyze my diet, training, and rest to make slight adjustments. i would always correlate a certain drug or supplement and results. too many other variables factor into the overall equation. maybe some people respond better than others. I respond well. I dont expect steroid like gains, so maybe that is why i am happy with it. I expect it to augment my training, fat loss and lbm gain. which it has. LGD seems interesting. I am looking to try some in about a month after my arimistane/nolva
 
alland said:
if you dont mind a mild pct 50mgs of ostarine seems to help not only lean out along with strength gains, but also slow but steady lbm increases. in lieu of the ban and if testosterone is available, ostarine will be a staple for me. libido is fine. beyond drugs and supplements i try to continue to analyze my diet, training, and rest to make slight adjustments. i would always correlate a certain drug or supplement and results. too many other variables factor into the overall equation. maybe some people respond better than others. I respond well. I dont expect steroid like gains, so maybe that is why i am happy with it. I expect it to augment my training, fat loss and lbm gain. which it has. LGD seems interesting. I am looking to try some in about a month after my arimistane/nolva
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I've never heard of anyone running it so high. I run at 20-25 and always lean out rather quickly and see strength gains on a cal deficit. It is hands down the best cutting supplement I've used.
 
16.6x the studied dose? Seems legit. =D



You got balls man. Sometimes, the devil is in the dose. We may be doing terrible things to our bodies at ~20mg. No one really knows. We could all be littered with cancer, now. Lol. Eh, not like we have any idea what half these PH's are doing, anyways...
 
blacklac said:
16.6x the studied dose? Seems legit. =D

You got balls man. Sometimes, the devil is in the dose. We may be doing terrible things to our bodies at ~20mg. No one really knows. We could all be littered with cancer, now. Lol. Eh, not like we have any idea what half these PH's are doing, anyways...
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I'm not recommending it...but I know I'm not the first....I'd take my health on 50mgs of ostarine versus 50mgs of dbol. As an alternative to pH/designer/aas high dose ostarine isn't terrible. I'm under no delusion that it isn't impact in my natty test...considering I'm a prime candidate from aas abuse when I was competing it does the trick for me atm
 
alland said:
I'm not recommending it...but I know I'm not the first....I'd take my health on 50mgs of ostarine versus 50mgs of dbol. As an alternative to pH/designer/aas high dose ostarine isn't terrible. I'm under no delusion that it isn't impact in my natty test...considering I'm a prime candidate from aas abuse when I was competing it does the trick for me atm
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50 mg of osta 40grams of phenibut anything else that you mega dose. Abombs maybe? Methyl tren?
 
McCrew530 said:
50 mg of osta 40grams of phenibut anything else that you mega dose. Abombs maybe? Methyl tren?
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I use two packets of stevia in my oatmeal....the horrors!! One time i drank a 2 liter of diet mt dew. Ha ha. Nust husro g your balls.

The 40 grams was a really bad error in math. Decimal points will get you. The 50mgs is not.
 
alland said:
I use two packets of stevia in my oatmeal....the horrors!! One time i drank a 2 liter of diet mt dew. Ha ha. Nust husro g your balls.

The 40 grams was a really bad error in math. Decimal points will get you. The 50mgs is not.
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Just as long as you leave the mustard and catsup packets alone I think you may have a shot at living past 30 lol
 
alland said:
I'm not recommending it...but I know I'm not the first....I'd take my health on 50mgs of ostarine versus 50mgs of dbol. As an alternative to pH/designer/aas high dose ostarine isn't terrible. I'm under no delusion that it isn't impact in my natty test...considering I'm a prime candidate from aas abuse when I was competing it does the trick for me atm
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That's some insane dosing. I guess someone had to start mega dosing for the rest of us to follow. But knowing osta myself I don't see gains that's worth above 15mg. Past that I felt the same with some minor sides.

What osta brand are you running?
 
goodvibes said:
That's some insane dosing. I guess someone had to start mega dosing for the rest of us to follow. But knowing osta myself I don't see gains that's worth above 15mg. Past that I felt the same with some minor sides.

What osta brand are you running?
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It's not too insane. It's a dose people were experimenting with when ostarine first hit the market. Then most people figured out that from 30 to 50, not a big difference for them so at that point, people just started using the 30 mg as the standard high dose.
 
goodvibes said:
That's some insane dosing. I guess someone had to start mega dosing for the rest of us to follow. But knowing osta myself I don't see gains that's worth above 15mg. Past that I felt the same with some minor sides.

What osta brand are you running?
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I've only used olympus labs...maybe some purity issues? At 30 I didn't quite get the recovery I do now.
 
For me 10 during pcts. My friend runs it 8 weeks at 15 with good results. I do not see the point in stacking it on a cycle. I would do gw on cycle or something else.
 
Is anyone still needing/using a preworkout supplement with Ostarine? Sucks to say but I can't imagine training without a couple scoops of stims...
 
I had no issues with stims and Osta. I didn't have my BP monitor at the time, but I felt fine. I know feeling doesn't always mean you're ok though.
 
Cool, thanks guys.

I will be taking a cycle assist product to cover organs and blood pressure but better to ask just in case that's not enough.

So having read this whole thread, can someone run their eye over my plan?

Osta - 20/20/20/20/25/25 (if all going well, I will have another two weeks to run at 25)
Assault Labs Cycle Assist - as directed every day for up to 8 weeks

In my cupboard for potential PCT I have two bottles of Alphamax, two bottles of Mass 550 and I have 10 x Clomid 50mg tabs. Can I get away with 25/25/25 Clomid PCT for the above run?

I've also ordered some Inhibit-P for my run in line with what has been suggested in this thread - I assume I'm good to start in week 2 of my run? It probably won't be here until then?

ALSO - I assume I'm good to have a few drinks on osta, being not liver toxic? I plan on making the best of my run nutrition wise but I'm not going to give up my social life entirely. That's really why I haven't been able to pull the trigger on the two bottles of Halo I have tucked away lol.
 
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