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Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act Passes Senate
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Grayson
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It will never happen. After all, we're just meat-headed dbags who spend a majority of their time chasing a vain pursuit.
This country's morals and ideals are dead.
Government never wanted you us to think and the sheer fact that we farm animals have even been given the opportunity to enjoy designer steroids is nothing far from amazing.
"...Specifically, within the United States alone, studies have landed the total number of anabolic steroid users for non-medical purposes in the range of 1 – 3 million individuals, which is approximately 1% of the total population in the United States.... Within these demographics, a number of studies conducted in the United States has determined that the average anabolic steroid user is in fact that of a middle-class heterosexual male of the average median age of approximately 25 – 35 years, and are neither competitive bodybuilders at any level, nor are they professional or amateur athletes at any level either, and these anabolic steroid users are simply utilizing anabolic steroids for purely cosmetic improvement purposes. Furthermore, a 2007 study has demonstrated that 74% of all anabolic steroid users for non-medical purposes held post-secondary college or university degrees, and far less had failed high school than the average person typically expects of anabolic steroid users. That same study has also determined that the average anabolic steroid user held a much higher employment rate in addition to an overall higher household income than that of the rest of the general population. It can be concluded from this data that the truth in regards to anabolic steroid use among the general population are not athletes, are not teenagers or children, and are highly educated, law abiding, taxpaying, contributing citizens that are simply attempting to enhance their personal physique and performance in relation to their training in the gym."
So tell me people, who is this bill really targeting? And think about why? Think about Obama and his cronies and think about what has happened to America over the past 8 years. Think about the next 8 years. This isn't about Dems vs Repubs, nor is this about us vs the feds (like we'd ever win lol). This is about our freedom. This is about America retaining her integrity.
This country's morals and ideals are dead.
Government never wanted you us to think and the sheer fact that we farm animals have even been given the opportunity to enjoy designer steroids is nothing far from amazing.
"...Specifically, within the United States alone, studies have landed the total number of anabolic steroid users for non-medical purposes in the range of 1 – 3 million individuals, which is approximately 1% of the total population in the United States.... Within these demographics, a number of studies conducted in the United States has determined that the average anabolic steroid user is in fact that of a middle-class heterosexual male of the average median age of approximately 25 – 35 years, and are neither competitive bodybuilders at any level, nor are they professional or amateur athletes at any level either, and these anabolic steroid users are simply utilizing anabolic steroids for purely cosmetic improvement purposes. Furthermore, a 2007 study has demonstrated that 74% of all anabolic steroid users for non-medical purposes held post-secondary college or university degrees, and far less had failed high school than the average person typically expects of anabolic steroid users. That same study has also determined that the average anabolic steroid user held a much higher employment rate in addition to an overall higher household income than that of the rest of the general population. It can be concluded from this data that the truth in regards to anabolic steroid use among the general population are not athletes, are not teenagers or children, and are highly educated, law abiding, taxpaying, contributing citizens that are simply attempting to enhance their personal physique and performance in relation to their training in the gym."
So tell me people, who is this bill really targeting? And think about why? Think about Obama and his cronies and think about what has happened to America over the past 8 years. Think about the next 8 years. This isn't about Dems vs Repubs, nor is this about us vs the feds (like we'd ever win lol). This is about our freedom. This is about America retaining her integrity.
Piston Honda
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Take a breath and step back from the ledge...it will all be ok
McCrew530
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^^^ All I get from that is you have to be financially secure to use steroids.
Well they ain't freaking cheap that's for damn sure
Grayson
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Exactly. Everyone has done the math.
PH of choice: $35-50 (sometimes upwards of 90 if running a long cycle or something that needs higher dosage: i.e. tren)
On Cycle support: (i.e. AL Aegis) $43 depending on cycle length + state of health you might be running UPWARDS of 3 bottles: $129
Liver Support: (i.e. AL Talos) $42, depending on cycle length + state of health you might be running UPWARDS of 3 bottles: $126
PCT SERM: $20-40 (CCRX or RRXP)
PCT AI: Exemestane: $48 (RRXP)
(none of these include shipping)
And because we're responsible adults we don't use RC for PCT support.
This isn't taking into account PCT t-boosters or on cycle AI or prolactin control.
Total Cost: $188-433
And this is just for PHs. We're not taking into account IM AAS which account for syringes + pins (which do not cost much AT ALL, but nonetheless need to be added). Not to mention the fact that they are run much longer than PHs so cost shoots up dramatically. I have never injected therefore I will not deduce the costs nor will provide a theoretical cost analysis.
But, $188 is okay if you're a single male living on your own or roommate in a relatively inexpensive part of America who maybe has a BA degree. $433 and you're eating into car payments, rent or utilities. Moral of the damn story: looking bonable isn't fcking cheap.
T-Bone
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Um, Ok Spicoli.
KilaCali
Banned
LoL
blacklac
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It will probably sound good to the media though. Sadly, alot of uneducated people will be glad about this legislation.
We'll see what good it actually does.
Grayson
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More zombified, fat Americans. Turn on the TV. Shut off your brain. Big brother is here to quell your fears.
FNF5989
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haha I wonder how many people won't get this reference...anyway...just to clarify I don't smoke...I was simply stating an observation...I'll be it somewhat of a reach...a man can hope right?
inb4
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The reason you guys aren't seeing huge sales right now is because most retailers keep a limited stock towards the end of the year for tax purposes. If you're waiting for sales like when the SD ban came through you might be **** out of luck or risk having to order from china/russia/mexico. I think we'll probably see a few manufacturers pop in in bordering countries but that doesn't mean every order will make it past customs or that the DEA won't come after you as if you were ordering an illicit drug.
venicebeach
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will this affect research chems?
goodvibes
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We keep discussing RC and it will be banned next
Jiigzz
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RC already is not for human consumption. Hence its name.
Jiigzz
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This and the fact that the ban has long been anticipated, so many companies have been leaning out inventory
Stierenek213
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I can confirm this I had just used a 15 month old bottle for 4 weeks at 40mg and it did not do anything, no strenght, nothing. Just 4 pounds of fat because I ate above maintenance thinking I was "on" lol.
I think this is the reason why we have non-reponders...they just used old bottles.
FL3X MAGNUM
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Epic unfortunately guys is also very easily faked. Been a lot of pirated stuff lately.
inb4
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RC's are always in the cross-hair. From a business perspective I wouldn't ever release anything not for human consumption in this industry.
it's a sad day, Maybe stupid question, but could sarms be affected by this guys?
Could? Yes. Will? Probably, it's just a matter of time. If it's not herbal and promoted as a muscle growth it could be temp banned under the new guidelines.
CallItKarma
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Dang...another fail for freedom...:grumpy:
BCseacow83
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This will be held up high for all to see: "Look John and Jane Q Public! We did f u c k all the entire year but we did manage to do this, and it's for your children too!!!"
The fact of the matter is if the public is wholly unaware of a problem ie DS/PH then we do not need legislation on it. I have never awoke in the morning and said to my self, "Self, we need more laws!" We have plenty of laws but a bunch of bickering little men and women in government need to justify there existence. All they need you to do is make the machine run smoothly. Instead they keep trying to add after market parts. We need this, we need that....no we don't. The thing is fine just keep it running you fools!!!!
DGA3
Member
No doubt - they will say they are doing this "for our own good."
Right, that's why more and more states are legalizing weed. It's "for our own good," right? :nono:
BCseacow83
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Maybe we should get some legislation on what they are allowed to eat and mandate exercise for all reps in the senate and house. After all it's for their own good and we pay for their insurance so we have to keep the cost down. One of the issues is that most of these jokers know very LITTLE about a lot and a lot about very little. The only thing they are all universally adept at, other than spinning whimsical BS, is conning votes, yes conning not earning.
DGA3
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"Conning . . ."
"Vote for me - I made these extremely dangerous drugs illegal and unavailable to all of those crazy muscle heads who are a threat to society."
:usa1:
cubsfan815
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Just one more thing added to our loss of freedom. The pattern is scary.
mountainman33
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Give it a couple weeks, could get it for like $10.
jgntyce
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thanks! Will definitely be looking out for it when it does drop!
BigGame84
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MSten isn't listed on the bill so might still be available after it.
Royd The Noyd
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I don't think Msten will drop that much initially. It is not one that is specifically listed. If I were a retailer I'd discount the ones listed heavily depending on stock, and then see how things play out. Depending on the size of their balls of course.
McCrew530
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I wonder how much taxpayers spent on giving Chaney his new ticker
mountainman33
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I noticed that and mentioned that earlier. We can still get or gainz, at least for a little while.
Abe Lincoln
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There is better compounds out on the market still that are illegal, but easily attained. Move to canada for 6 months and hop on cycle or the UK.
Olestra
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This may be an unpopular opinion on here, but please bear with me:
I just want to point out that it's the dumb 16 year old kids who buy PHs off the shelves either online or in stores, who have caused all the problems related to PH/steroid abuse.
Does it suck that responsible, educated users don't have access to OTC steroids anymore? Yea.
Is it good that little Timmy from down the street can't grab his mommy's credit card and blow himself up on toxic, growth-stunting anabolics? Absolutely.
I don't think it's the government targeting PH users as much as it is trying to keep toxic, unregulated and potentially dangerous chemicals off of store shelves.
We can debate about whether this law will actually do anything other than turn steroid users onto the black market, but I feel like the point of the law wasn't to get rid of roids altogether. We all know that will never happen. Much more likely the idea was to make them less accessible, especially to dumb kids.
I just want to point out that it's the dumb 16 year old kids who buy PHs off the shelves either online or in stores, who have caused all the problems related to PH/steroid abuse.
Does it suck that responsible, educated users don't have access to OTC steroids anymore? Yea.
Is it good that little Timmy from down the street can't grab his mommy's credit card and blow himself up on toxic, growth-stunting anabolics? Absolutely.
I don't think it's the government targeting PH users as much as it is trying to keep toxic, unregulated and potentially dangerous chemicals off of store shelves.
We can debate about whether this law will actually do anything other than turn steroid users onto the black market, but I feel like the point of the law wasn't to get rid of roids altogether. We all know that will never happen. Much more likely the idea was to make them less accessible, especially to dumb kids.
EatMoar
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I agree. You're going to see all the 16 year old kids shrink now that they're stuff is gone.
In all honesty I loved my very first run with hdrol may have to stock up for nostalgia or time to start pinning.
mgkoret
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I'm all for keeping the kids safe, I really am. I agree to that reasoning.
But an all out ban was overkill. Just treat it like alcohol and put a 21yr age limit on it and THT and let us use safely as adults. I know I know, kids will still get their hands in it. But now we all have to do it illegally which isn't what they want either.
But an all out ban was overkill. Just treat it like alcohol and put a 21yr age limit on it and THT and let us use safely as adults. I know I know, kids will still get their hands in it. But now we all have to do it illegally which isn't what they want either.
bigead
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This is the exact same thing gun owners face and have been facing for 40 years a slow erosion of our guaranteed rights. At some point it will be time to recognize that our corrupt government was hi jacked long ago and no longer represents anyone in our country. Dems and Repubs are two sides of the same coin, those who get caught up in partisan politics just become useful idiots. Rant off...
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