Thanks again. I think this is the route I'm going to take. Im looking to run something that is going to help me get lean gains, trying to add around 5lbs. Your products seem to be much less harsh then others, and i can just use an OTC pct, which is what I am looking for. So all the being said, I think I might go with with either the Bulk or Battle kit now.. followed up with ARA and ABE and maybe Alpha max.