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Phenibut and sleep aids

Gmead80

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Once in a while I will take phenibut, about 1.5g on Sundays. I usually take it anywhere between noon and 3pm. I have taken a half tab or about 12.5mg of doxylamine for sleep on the same days. The next day I feel terrible and grogginess lasts all day. When I take doxylamine alone I feel good within in 60 minutes of waking up. My question is do these two interact negatively and has anyone else ever experienced this before? Last week I took this combo and it was one of the worst feelings ever, like I just could not wake up all day on Monday.
 
Yeah, it's because unscientifically speaking, phenibut sucks. On the occasions I have tried it, I feel like curling in a ball and not leaving the room for 2 days afterwards because I am so depressed and dull.
 
weird... I love it.. I wake up refreshed and feeling great. that said... I don't take more than the recommended dose
and I get mine combined with GABA so that may have something to do with how good I feel on it.
 
kisaj said:
Yeah, it's because unscientifically speaking, phenibut sucks. On the occasions I have tried it, I feel like curling in a ball and not leaving the room for 2 days afterwards because I am so depressed and dull.
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:lol:

I like Phenibut but only on days when I dont get woken up by an alarm. If I get forced awake then I get groggy for a while
 
kisaj said:
:) people that like seem to really like it, I will say. Too bad I can't get that same feeling.
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nothing, IMO beats better sleep hygiene. Has improved my sleep quality more than anything
 
It's funny, after chasing so many things in search of better sleep, I ended up back at simple chamomille tea w/ valerian. I sleep like a baby and combined with daily rhodiola, get more restful sleep.
 
Jiigzz said:
nothing, IMO beats better sleep hygiene. Has improved my sleep quality more than anything
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Amen to that. I have some phenibut laying around for nights where I know I'll need it, but sleep hygiene is criminally underrated.
 
kisaj said:
Yeah, it's because unscientifically speaking, phenibut sucks. On the occasions I have tried it, I feel like curling in a ball and not leaving the room for 2 days afterwards because I am so depressed and dull.
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Never had that feeling before personally. Hungover feeling the next day, yes. What you've described, nope.
 
I will have to try out phenibut again solo without any sleep aid in the same night and see what happens. I like phenibut cause it relaxes me but the next day was terrible. Does combing Pheni with GABBA help this?
 
Gmead80 said:
I will have to try out phenibut again solo without any sleep aid in the same night and see what happens. I like phenibut cause it relaxes me but the next day was terrible. Does combing Pheni with GABBA help this?
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No. Try using lower doses of phenibut.
 
Gmead80 said:
I will have to try out phenibut again solo without any sleep aid in the same night and see what happens. I like phenibut cause it relaxes me but the next day was terrible. Does combing Pheni with GABBA help this?
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Try a much smaller dose first. If that doesnt help, try some picamilon 150. That relaxs my brain so I can sleep better
 
Really strange thing about Phenibut...This is probably one of the handful of supplements that actually works for me.I only use it one a week and t take 1-1/2 grams either lift mode or Muscle pharm both do the job..It does seem to up regulate my dopamine receptors after using pre-workout drinks and stims all week long.
 
MaDmaN said:
Really strange thing about Phenibut...This is probably one of the handful of supplements that actually works for me.I only use it one a week and t take 1-1/2 grams either lift mode or Muscle pharm both do the job..It does seem to up regulate my dopamine receptors after using pre-workout drinks and stims all week long.
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Phenibut does increase dopamine, but it's main mechanism of action is GABA-B agonism. It wouldn't up regulate dopamine receptors.
 
Synapsin said:
Phenibut does increase dopamine, but it's main mechanism of action is GABA-B agonism. It wouldn't up regulate dopamine receptors.
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It seems to give my body a rest from all the stims so I don't have to keep upping the dose. Plus I seem to get into REM sleep after taking it..
 
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