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Should I do a first cycle?

Brachialis

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Hey, long time lurker with first post here. I have researched a ton online, countless hours and read virtually every pertinent thread on this site over the last year on first cycles. Trying to decide whether to take the plunge into my first PH cycle.

About me: I am a 36 yo, 6'0", 179 lbs, 10%, and have been lifting consistently for 10.5 years. Serious training for 4 years. Almost constant cutting/recomping during this time, down from a fat 210 at start of lifting. Every year I am more muscular and lean for summer (7-8% on weekends) but never big. Would like to have a bit more size. My goal is to be a solid 185 by end of Feb (add 6-7 lbs lean mass).

Current stats: BP 245x1, Squats 275x5, Deads 385x4, BW chins 18; new PRs most every week
Nutrition: Very clean, minimum 220 g prot/day
Supplements: Creatine, BCAA, Whey, sometimes PWO, fish oil

So I've been on my first true slow bulk for 3 months and seeing progress to the tune of 6 lean pounds since I started. Also I am a physician and fairly risk averse. Knowing what I know, I would prefer to start on test but I don't see this happening for legal reasons. My wife would kick my ass if she knew I was considering this stuff.

For those with experience, should I continue with my natty slow bulk or try a PH cycle?
 
Brachialis said:
Hey, long time lurker with first post here. I have researched a ton online, countless hours and read virtually every pertinent thread on this site over the last year on first cycles. Trying to decide whether to take the plunge into my first PH cycle. About me: I am a 36 yo, 6'0", 179 lbs, 10%, and have been lifting consistently for 10.5 years. Serious training for 4 years. Almost constant cutting/recomping during this time, down from a fat 210 at start of lifting. Every year I am more muscular and lean for summer (7-8% on weekends) but never big. Would like to have a bit more size. My goal is to be a solid 185 by end of Feb (add 6-7 lbs lean mass). Current stats: BP 245x1, Squats 275x5, Deads 385x4, BW chins 18; new PRs most every week Nutrition: Very clean, minimum 220 g prot/day Supplements: Creatine, BCAA, Whey, sometimes PWO, fish oil So I've been on my first true slow bulk for 3 months and seeing progress to the tune of 6 lean pounds since I started. Also I am a physician and fairly risk averse. Knowing what I know, I would prefer to start on test but I don't see this happening for legal reasons. My wife would kick my ass if she knew I was considering this stuff. For those with experience, should I continue with my natty slow bulk or try a PH cycle?
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Why not try IM trest? It's better/stronger then test and legal. If you're willing to pin but need to stay legal, that's your best choice by far.
 
If you want to stay natty try black lion research follidrone. Don't be fooled by other company's calming they have the same compound.

If does not effect body's own hormones. No pct needed....Thus, you stay natty
 
usealittle said:
If you want to stay natty try black lion research follidrone. Don't be fooled by other company's calming they have the same compound.

If does not effect body's own hormones. No pct needed....Thus, you stay natty
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Say what? Claiming?....get your facts straight bro. Nothing wrong with follidrone, but there are quality 'clones' available.
 
sounds like i hit a nerve....

ok, there is 1real clone (made with cheap raws)... so i do know what im talkin about and have my facts straight.
 
usealittle said:
sounds like i hit a nerve....

ok, there is 1real clone (made with cheap raws)... so i do know what im talkin about and have my facts straight.
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Clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Whatever bro. If that's how you wish to see it...
 
usealittle said:
sounds like i hit a nerve....

ok, there is 1real clone (made with cheap raws)... so i do know what im talkin about and have my facts straight.
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No nerve hit, you're just incredibly misinformed.

"Made with cheap raws" is a fallacy. At this point, there is no argument anymore. All that's left is people grasping at straws trying to hang onto these erroneous claims, nothing more. Ed tried to give you actual information vs your information, you refuse it, that's fine. Like he said, there is nothing wrong with Follidrone. All Follidrone and EP1C do as products are offer customers with OPTIONS. If people would put down their gang signs long enough, they'd realize this benefits them as consumers.

EP1C does not use inferior ingredients, period. There is not an "inferior" extract. Things along these lines are merely people trying to confuse customers, nothing more. Like I said there is no argument. If you prefer Follidrone that's fantastic, but don't try and spread non sense to help your "gang" get sales.

Simply just say I like this one more, it worked better for me, which again is great. Anyways, good luck with your goals!
 
Spaniard I agree with you on most of that but I pointed no fingers..

I never said what company used cheap raws did I? I never said a name if the "cheaply" made products... So again not that in trying to argue with either one of you. Just I think some folli products are better then others. So we don't agree which is normal when 2guys trying to back up there products get into a thread that know there products are knockoffs of someone else's products. Yes, I understand most company's do it but so company's do it better then others.

Just be a use I don't have a banner under my name or thousands of posts like you guys does not mean I don't know what I'm talkin about.

Again nothing was pointed to you 2 guys or your products it's jmo.peace
 
Sounds good brother! My point in my post was just to assure that others reading the posts didn't get the wrong idea my friend.

I have no issues with what you posted big man. In fact, we should catch a sesh together sometime. You cool with a little bro date? Maybe some weights, epi and food??? :)

Hahaha no bromo; ?
 
usealittle said:
Got it all except the sash part? Wtf is that...


Again no homo
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Sesh bro, a lifting session... sesh, jeez it's almost 2015 brah. We shorten everything now a days, obvys ;)
 
A physician... I would find a way to get my hands on the pharmacy and get the real test and script serms. Hehe

In all seriousness running trest IM like suggested previously or for an easier route, transdermals. Of course stacking it with something like dmz would yield higher gains so that's all up to you to setup the cycle. Imo I would jump into ph and someone like yourself with proper knowledge and access to proper ancillaries, you should be able to handle/battle the sides quite well
 
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