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Amazing mood changes on prohormone?

Michail

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I'm one week into a cycle of GEC oxydrone and I have been astonished by how great I'm feeling mentally. My work productivity is up, my mind feels clear, I feel awake, happy, confident, energetic and I can focus. I'm even being more sociable and talkative. Basically, I think I'm feeling what I always imagined normal should feel like. The dread, stress, anxiety and fatigue are all gone.

Ever since my divorce I've suffered from depression and anxiety that I haven't been able to fully recover from. I've been on anti depressants for the past year and have also been on TRT for the treatment of hypogonadism for three years. Both the anti depressants and TRT have helped but nothing like these prohormons have.

I had blood work done before I started my cycle and everything was good. My testosterone levels on TRT typically read between 500-800 ng/dl with estradiol in range.

I have seen some people mention they feel better on some prohormones while others feel worse. Is having this reaction typical or could it indicate there is still something wrong with me biochemically?

I fear slipping back into the darkness when my cycle is over.

Oxydrone contains:
25mg of 4-cholor-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol (Halodrol)
7mg of 2,17a-dimethyl-5a-androsta-1-en-17b-ol-3-one (Methylstenbolone)
 
I'd say being on TRT and maintaining test levels while on ph's plays a part in this. Lethargy and other sides usually set in around weeks 2-3, but again, the TRT should help with that. I have had a cycle start just as you are speaking and a couple weeks later I was a sensitive irritable little b!tch. So good that you're feeling great, but it can be a roller-coaster ride. And who knows, maybe some awesome GAINZ from your cycle will help keep the depression away when you come off!!
 
Thanks, I'll watch out for mood swings. Hopefully the TRT will prevent that from happening.

If anything, it's a reminder of how little control we can have over our mood.
 
Michail said:
Thanks, I'll watch out for mood swings. Hopefully the TRT will prevent that from happening.

If anything, it's a reminder of how little control we can have over our mood.
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We do and we don't. Obviously chemical imbalances can affect our ability to control them. But we also have a lot of control over how we feel based on how we interpret external events. Some can be countered with medicines and other chemicals, some can be controlled by evaluating how we let external events affect our thought process.

After experiencing some roller-coastering on cycles, I now look to combat the things that affect my mood. I added DHEA (a test base) to my current cycle to battle lethargy and libido issues. I grab a sleep aid to make sure I get good rest. Sleep deprivation is a mother on how you feel. So I feel like I have gained control in the fight against the roller-coaster. And I know that ups and downs in hormones can cause irritability, so I intentionally focus on how I react to situation and make sure I don't let them become an excuse for being a dick.
 
Dma378 said:
We do and we don't. Obviously chemical imbalances can affect our ability to control them. But we also have a lot of control over how we feel based on how we interpret external events. Some can be countered with medicines and other chemicals, some can be controlled by evaluating how we let external events affect our thought process.
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I agree to an extent as well. But my struggles with depression and PTSD have been going on for 8 years now. I became one of those guys that just never got over his divorce. I've done everything in my power to fight it back from therapy, antidepressants, TRT (was actually hypo), ignoring it, plenty of dating, getting on with life, weight training, diet, etc. I just keep waking up in the morning wishing I was dead already.

But this pill has easily washed it all away. Perhaps I can hold on to what this feels like.

It makes me think what could be going on biologically. I know plenty of guys that have every reason to be depressed - they're fat, lazy, broke out of work and surrounded by women that they treat poorly. However, they're rather happy and some of the most conceited, arrogant and over confident people I've met.
 
Michail said:
I agree to an extent as well. But my struggles with depression and PTSD have been going on for 8 years now. I became one of those guys that just never got over his divorce. I've done everything in my power to fight it back from therapy, antidepressants, TRT (was actually hypo), ignoring it, plenty of dating, getting on with life, weight training, diet, etc. I just keep waking up in the morning wishing I was dead already. But this pill has easily washed it all away. Perhaps I can hold on to what this feels like. It makes me think what could be going on biologically. I know plenty of guys that have every reason to be depressed - they're fat, lazy, broke out of work and surrounded by women that they treat poorly. However, they're rather happy and some of the most conceited, arrogant and over confident people I've met.
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In that case I'm happy for you. I have battled many emotional, physical and psychological issues myself. Came back from borderline obesity. And now feel better about myself than I ever have in life. Also in part to how I look due to prohormones, so I get it. If it works, it works. Good for you man.
 
Oh thanks! It's just a battle I face with my brain chemistry and I fight back at it hard. I'd like to be able to discuss my reaction with a doctor but I imagine most would frown on taking prohormones or not know enough about brain chemistry. It makes me wonder if my TRT dose is too low but 500-800 ng/dl puts me in the midrange of normal and my estrogen level is good.

But in reality my life is really good and I'm even seeing that much more clearly now on the Oxydrone. I'd never do anything to harm myself. I'm even cautious with doing this cycle.
 
I'm in my second week now and so far my mood is still at a good level, I've had a few down moments but nothing I'd consider abnormal.

But I've had another interesting thing happen. I regards to some of my "issues" that I have been dealing with I'm suddenly seeing them more clearly. I can feel some anger about them but see it for what it is and move on. I never actually felt that anger, a healthy pissed off but do something good about it anger.

Without going into too much detail it's something I've been dealing with going on 9 years. So for me to make this mental switch with such ease is quite astonishing to me. I think it's something I'll be able to rewrite in my brain and carry through after my cycle is over.

It wish there was a doctor or expert of some sort I could talk with or get some theories about what is happening. There seems to be something to PEDs + TRT therapy as it relates to depression, or at least the type I've been experiencing. It makes me wonder if my normal testosterone therapy is too low or would need to be combined with something else.

My urologist would flip out if he knew what I was doing but he doesn't look beyond the blood test results.
 
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