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What's the deal with Laxogenin

Buffspartan

Buffspartan

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I've been seeing a lot of hype about Laxogenin products lately and it has gotten me very interested in trying it. Does it live up to it's hype? And if so which one is the best one to take. I've been looking into LeCheek Nutrition Andro-5A, Blackstone Labs Anogenin, Lgi Secretabridge, and Olympus Labs Str3ngth. Are these solid products? Does any one in particular jump out at any of you guys? Input would be much appreciated
 
I'm using Anogenin currently. Acute effect is that it lowered my stim tolerance. Possible effect after 3+ weeks is that I'm finally gaining weight after being stuck for awhile, that could be coincidence though.

I'm running it at 50/50 morning/prebed.

I'm not recommending it at the moment because I really don't know if it's all that good yet (kind of expensive to just have something lower stim tolerance yah know?).

The Andro-5A probably you will feel something out of, but that one contain a PH so... Theoretically the laxo could help potentiate the PH thus there may be something to that.
 
Buffspartan said:
I've been seeing a lot of hype about Laxogenin products lately and it has gotten me very interested in trying it. Does it live up to it's hype? And if so which one is the best one to take. I've been looking into LeCheek Nutrition Andro-5A, Blackstone Labs Anogenin, Lgi Secretabridge, and Olympus Labs Str3ngth. Are these solid products? Does any one in particular jump out at any of you guys? Input would be much appreciated
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If you are going to give it a try go with DermaStr3ngth. It is a tansdermal laxo which will increase its absorption.
 
ELROCK said:
If you are going to give it a try go with DermaStr3ngth. It is a tansdermal laxo which will increase its absorption.
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I know of one person that ran Str3ngth at 400 mg per day (oral) and got nada out of it and then was told that he was just a non-responder so...
 
That is correct, I would much rather spend money on Ara and hmb FA but that's just me I use a lot of over reaching and tapering in my training
 
braskibra said:
Yeah I'll run it with my overreaching cycles, never 5 bottles straight tho
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For sure, I just personally don't change my routining all that much. If I ran cycles of different training protocols, definitely would fit it in on the high volume + high frequency cycles.
 
I ran Anogenin and dermastrength after my last ph cycle. I lost strength during pct, these products brought the strength back up to where I left off from cycle. Oral needs to be dosed at 100mg-150mg to be effective for me, and transdermal at 200mg. Anogenin is way too expensive to run at that dose.
 
tommurph said:
I ran Anogenin and dermastrength after my last ph cycle. I lost strength during pct, these products brought the strength back up to where I left off from cycle. Oral needs to be dosed at 100mg-150mg to be effective for me, and transdermal at 200mg. Anogenin is way too expensive to run at that dose.
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So you're saying the TD is actually less effective?
 
kissdadookie said:
So you're saying the TD is actually less effective?
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For me, I didn't feel I was getting correct dosages from the pump. Sometimes it would come out good and get full pump. Sometimes it would get stuck then blast out squirting every where, so less on the body. To me oral was easier and consistent. Transdermal would run out of product early as well. Maybe just user error, but I liked the oral better.
 
tommurph said:
For me, I didn't feel I was getting correct dosages from the pump. Sometimes it would come out good and get full pump. Sometimes it would get stuck then blast out squirting every where, so less on the body. To me oral was easier and consistent. Transdermal would run out of product early as well. Maybe just user error, but I liked the oral better.
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Good feedback broski.

Yeah, the Anogenin is friggin costly. LoL. $80 a month to run it @ 100 mg a day. Might give the OL one a shot (non-TD), but that's if the Anogenin pans out positively first.
 
kissdadookie said:
Good feedback broski. Yeah, the Anogenin is friggin costly. LoL. $80 a month to run it @ 100 mg a day. Might give the OL one a shot (non-TD), but that's if the Anogenin pans out positively first.
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Thanks for the REPS brother! I'm currently on a cycle but have purchased more laxo for my pct coming up soon. It worked so I'm doing it again! Something that didn't work for me was Ep1c. I ran 2 bottles with nothing for results, but others had great results. Funny how some things work some people and others don't!
 
Good info guys. I have a bottle of Andro 5-A I'm considering using here soon.
 
tommurph said:
Thanks for the REPS brother! I'm currently on a cycle but have purchased more laxo for my pct coming up soon. It worked so I'm doing it again! Something that didn't work for me was Ep1c. I ran 2 bottles with nothing for results, but others had great results. Funny how some things work some people and others don't!
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Some laxo on cycle should be interesting. It could potentiate the anabolics (thus why it's included into quite a few designers). Especially since there's so much laxo in each cap now as opposed to what they use to sprinkle in with designers.
 
kissdadookie said:
Some laxo on cycle should be interesting. It could potentiate the anabolics (thus why it's included into quite a few designers). Especially since there's so much laxo in each cap now as opposed to what they use to sprinkle in with designers.
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That's deffinately an idea to run during cycle. Speaking of higher doses, I just picked up Most Wanted, it has 125mg per tablet of laxo plus the ECDY. This is what I'm going to try here in a couple weeks.
 
kissdadookie said:
Some laxo on cycle should be interesting. It could potentiate the anabolics (thus why it's included into quite a few designers). Especially since there's so much laxo in each cap now as opposed to what they use to sprinkle in with designers.
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What're your thoughts on Andro5A? I got it from a promo and didn't even realize there was another compound in there with the laxo. Looks to be a ph as you stated above... I was gonna run in in pct initially but I guess that wouldn't work now ha.
 
tommurph said:
That's deffinately an idea to run during cycle. Speaking of higher doses, I just picked up Most Wanted, it has 125mg per tablet of laxo plus the ECDY. This is what I'm going to try here in a couple weeks.
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I'm interested to see how this treats you. Lots of hype about that stuff but what a price tag... Supposed to be very bioavailable which is the main hype point of it.
 
booneman77 said:
I'm interested to see how this treats you. Lots of hype about that stuff but what a price tag... Supposed to be very bioavailable which is the main hype point of it.
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Yeah I thought it was expensive too at first, but when I compared others laxo at 250mg per day and they ended up being more expensive.
 
booneman77 said:
What're your thoughts on Andro5A? I got it from a promo and didn't even realize there was another compound in there with the laxo. Looks to be a ph as you stated above... I was gonna run in in pct initially but I guess that wouldn't work now ha.
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The andro is underdosed for sure, but the possibility is there that the laxo might potentiate the andro. Kind of like a theoretical 1+1=3 scenario.
 
kissdadookie said:
The andro is underdosed for sure, but the possibility is there that the laxo might potentiate the andro. Kind of like a theoretical 1+1=3 scenario.
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Are you familiar with the other compound at all? I'm not
 
kissdadookie said:
It's good ole 1-andro + laxo. 1-andro you would typically run at around 300 mg ED. So you can see why this LeCheek product obviously have a very low dose of 1-andro.
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So assuming each dose is roughly 50/50 you'd have to almost quadruple dose it to be effective?
 
braskibra said:
Yeah I'll run it with my overreaching cycles, never 5 bottles straight tho
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HMB FA is really good product.
For me who have severe sleep apnea it does wonders for my recovery and no DOMS at all. I really cant believe it. Usualy i have bad DOMS after leg,back and chest days but thats past now

Laxogenin products are just like ecdysteroids product. To many bad products out there. People who have tried a laxogenin or ecdysteroid product without any results, its a good sign of:
Poor quality , low dosages or a combo of those..
I totaly understand why people are disappointed and are bashing laxo and ecdy products. Been there and done that until i got real stuff from ICPS which changed my mind totaly
 
kissdadookie said:
I doubt it is 50/50. Probably more 1-andro in there than laxo tbh. Basically... unless laxo does potentiate anabolics. :: shrugs ::
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Laxo is listed first so it has to be more and at least 50mg as the total is 100mg.
 
I just bought some bulk 5A Hydroxy Laxogenin...can't wait to give it a try!

been debating on running it td or not
 
Laxo is expensive. It is far more bioavailable and effective in TD, there are tons of logs here which can vouch for that.
 
tommurph said:
I ran Anogenin and dermastrength after my last ph cycle. I lost strength during pct, these products brought the strength back up to where I left off from cycle. Oral needs to be dosed at 100mg-150mg to be effective for me, and transdermal at 200mg. Anogenin is way too expensive to run at that dose.
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One thing to remember about transdermals is there are many factors that can effect the absorption of the compound. Some examples are location sites (thinnest skinned areas), applying post shower, overall skin thickness and body hair. I actually use Phlojel Ultra with all transdermals and it makes a world of a difference.
 
ELROCK said:
One thing to remember about transdermals is there are many factors that can effect the absorption of the compound. Some examples are location sites (thinnest skinned areas), applying post shower, overall skin thickness and body hair. I actually use Phlojel Ultra with all transdermals and it makes a world of a difference.
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Honestly, there's not much evidence out to suggest that it's all that better tansdermally to begin with. When laxogenin resurfaced like in 2010 or something, the stuff out didn't even test out to be laxogenin to begin with so actual quality of material was questionable to begin with. That along with how little is known about laxogenin, how obscure it is, basically lead to not much feedback and feedback that was available have largely been all over the place.

Supposedly, what's out now (at least in Anogenin supposedly, which could likely be the same raws used in other products as well), have tested out positively in terms of it being actual laxogenin.
 
kissdadookie said:
Honestly, there's not much evidence out to suggest that it's all that better tansdermally to begin with. When laxogenin resurfaced like in 2010 or something, the stuff out didn't even test out to be laxogenin to begin with so actual quality of material was questionable to begin with. That along with how little is known about laxogenin, how obscure it is, basically lead to not much feedback and feedback that was available have largely been all over the place.

Supposedly, what's out now (at least in Anogenin supposedly, which could likely be the same raws used in other products as well), have tested out positively in terms of it being actual laxogenin.
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Your absolutely right. I am was bring up possible reasons why he might of thought he needed a little higher dose with the TD version. I have never found that to be true with anything of the varies TDs i have tried. I have my TD protocol down to a perfect science. The only downside is it can be a bit tedious for most.
 
kissdadookie said:
Honestly, there's not much evidence out to suggest that it's all that better tansdermally to begin with. When laxogenin resurfaced like in 2010 or something, the stuff out didn't even test out to be laxogenin to begin with so actual quality of material was questionable to begin with. That along with how little is known about laxogenin, how obscure it is, basically lead to not much feedback and feedback that was available have largely been all over the place.

Supposedly, what's out now (at least in Anogenin supposedly, which could likely be the same raws used in other products as well), have tested out positively in terms of it being actual laxogenin.
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What brings ingredients out to the market is demand and proper quality control. It is highly likely that prior to 2010 there was no 'pure' laxogenin, we tested a lot of bad laxogenin on the supplier side of the market before we were finally able to get it at an assay of between 90-98%. Commercial production lots do not allow one company like ours to gain exclusivity since the supplier is making about 100kg per batch to minimize everybody's costs. We understand, they need to sell what they've made as well, and if we're not buying, they use other brokers to sell the powder. Anogenin is the last of laxogenin products to emerge and if credit is to be given to any company for sourcing good laxo it should be given to OL and LGI.
 
ELROCK said:
Your absolutely right. I am was bring up possible reasons why he might of thought he needed a little higher dose with the TD version. I have never found that to be true with anything of the varies TDs i have tried. I have my TD protocol down to a perfect science. The only downside is it can be a bit tedious for most.
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My issue with the transdermal was simply the inconsistency I was having with the pump. I feel the transdermal does work better, but when I have 2 or 3 days of product stuck to the sides in the bottle and trying to dig it out and smear it on plus getting half pumps sometimes due to clots or air bubbles, the oral is best for me. I'm here to say they both work great IMO..
 
tommurph said:
My issue with the transdermal was simply the inconsistency I was having with the pump. I feel the transdermal does work better, but when I have 2 or 3 days of product stuck to the sides in the bottle and trying to dig it out and smear it on plus getting half pumps sometimes due to clots or air bubbles, the oral is best for me. I'm here to say they both work great IMO..
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I can understand that.
 
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