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Pray for Gaza, the atrocities by Israel are being ignored by our politicians and the UN, but the world is watching and this is a war crime.
i would rather pray for the victims of 911.
Pray for Gaza, the atrocities by Israel are being ignored by our politicians and the UN, but the world is watching and this is a war crime.
Pray for Gaza, the atrocities by Israel are being ignored by our politicians and the UN, but the world is watching and this is a war crime.
i would rather pray for the victims of 911.
The case against LBJ has always been a strong one. LBJ was a serial murderer and amoral psychopath. Read Roger Stones, "The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ"
So Russia is suspected of conspiring to shoot down a plane which lead to the death of 300 people. Russia gets heavy sanctions. Israel on the other hand massacres 1,300 people and injures 8K+ in the past 3 weeks. Israel gets no sanctions, instead rewarded (just reported by CNN) will have their ammunition re-supplied by the USA's military industrial complex so they can slaughter more.
One mans terrorist organization is anothers freedom fighter. Palestine has been under lockdown for 60 years and their land keeps shrinking to Israel. It is known that since post WWII, Israel wants no Palestinians to survive. Imagine you lived in a country where your oppressors governed your water and electricity, controlled your borders, placed heavy embargoes and controlled all your trade? and constantly being called terrorists this comes after Palestine welcomed Jews into their homeland during their Exodus from Germany and Russia during WWII. You have to understand their anger and where it comes from. They have been the victims of many Israeli false flags. Listen to this video of an ex-Israeli soldiers testimony about how they kill Palestinians and use them as guinea pigs for weapons. It comes as no surprise how we became the ME in our own country post 9/11...they brought that crap here via homeland security, TSA, Patriot act, NDAA, our police being more brutal. Actually a lot of police are trained by the IDF, so these police no longer protect and serve...they treat us as enemy combatants. It picks up at 33:10 and tells of a false flag. Invalid Link Removed
You seemed viable until you said welcomed into their homeland. That couldn't be further from the truth.
you got that right!!! look at 1936-39 arab revolt in palestine and 1948 palistine war. in the 1948 war israel took over more land than they were alloted, but also during that war 700,000 palistinians fled or were driven from their native land by their own advancing armies who promised them they could return once the jews were erradicated---to me erradicated means killed or forced to leave. to me if i were a jew i would take 700,000 arabs trying to erradicate me as a serious threat!!! after all of the violence that has taken place in that area for the palistinians to try and portray themselves as innocent victims is a joke.
Agreed. There are no innocents here. Both
Sides are both agressors and victims.
I will always support Israeli existence but never the aggression.
A tad biased? I assume that there is some connection here I don't see? I don't recall Russia fighting for its existence against a terrorist organization. Hmmmm
You're talking about Nakba and the Palestinians Exodus from their homeland. I get that Israel needs its own homeland, but do they need to control the Palestinians? or encourage us to get into their policies with Egypt?, propping up dictators, assassinating and funding....this is where I disconnect with the our foreign policy towards Israel.
You're talking about Nakba and the Palestinians Exodus from their homeland. I get that Israel needs its own homeland, but do they need to control the Palestinians? or encourage us to get into their policies with Egypt?, propping up dictators, assassinating and funding....this is where I disconnect with the our foreign policy towards Israel.
hey, i disconnect with U.S. governments foreign policy towards everywhere. the U.S government has not used it's power and influence in a productive way in many many years, imo.
Until they both figure out how to distribute the land and respect each-other properly, this is endless and may go on for thousands of more years...or until porn and weed are widely distributed (had to add a joke in this thread,)
I have some idea's how Israel can win over for Palestine people, but its not happening. For example, for every bomb they drop they can instead help finance a Palestine person and send them overseas to get a good education instead of blockading them from independently doing so. Thats just a tiny start. Compassion is the only way to win people over, not bombardments. You dont prevent a genocide by creating another genocide.
Wait...what about Iraq and the past decade, um...nevermind, lol.
Foreign interventionism never really turns out to be an act of charity, instead makes those buildings surrounding the Pentagon ultra rich.
bin laden got his education right here in the good old usa, so did many of the leaders of militant groups...i honestly believe that israel would be very happy with peace in the region, but even if palistinians wanted peace the militant islamics in the region would never let it happen.
hell his own people killed sadat for making peace with israel, history has to teach you something.
i agree, and sending palistinians to the west to get educated just makes for educated terrorists, imo.
That is just a small fraction of what I propose. I want to see modernization and development instead of war. If you make people's lives better there will be less bad people. This is something that is going to take a couple of generations to do so, you dont win over people who had their families slaughtered with bombs overnight. Bombs and death create enemies, a helping hand increases your chance for long term peace. If some country bombed my family Id want to get back at them back too.
Just because someone is a Palestine doesnt mean they are a terrorist. They own alot of property and businesses where I live and many are well educated, all they care about is money and supporting their families.
the point being as in the arab uprising in 48 the palistinians are just pawns...the militants will never let there be peace as long as israel is in existence.
just like here, we the american people get blamed for the actions of our government when i personally have very little to do the government decisions--how about you? i would say the average palistinian has very little say in what happens there.
If they got rid of Israel, there still wont be peace anyways, they will just move on to the next war with some other race or tribe, right?
it would be wrong to assume that they would do that.....but it is fact that they have stated many times that they are dedicated to erradicating the jewish nation....correct me if i am wrong but i have never heard israel say they are dedicated to eradicating any arab nation.
Israel is just a piece of land, it doesnt say anything ever, lol I think there are certain sects within Israel (Zionism) that are interested in irradiating Palestine, which of course if you look at the recent history this has already been almost accomplished. I guess you can say (and this is the first time I ever thought of this) action speaks softer than words in a way. I just wanna add I have far more research to do with Zionism and its history, I really dont know too much as of yet.
I guess the eradication aspect
Is powerful on both sides.
Yeah, its all twisted. I dont see how anyone can exactly pick a side of who is right and wrong, both are right and wrong.
isn't the kissinger deal still in place where all arab oil deals have to be done in U.S dollars or equivilent?
I really dont know too anything about that, or how much to trust the system along with the rules written on paper.
Hey ax1 I really enjoy your reading your thread.I would like to see a post on the Ebola epidemic.
Thanks! Im overseas on vacation so Im a little out of touch with Ebola (and isnt that a good thing? lol)
Things I heard...thought sending the military along with 3,000 troops to fight ebola is ridiculous. Are you kidding me? Are the troops doctors? We are fighting a war on a tactic (terrorism) and now we are declaring war on Ebola? Gimme a break. I know the criminals in Washington and United Nations not only want to expand their new world order all though the middle, but Africa has largely been a part of this as well.
This reminds me of the swine flue epidemic (so they called it.) 50,000 Americans die every year from the regular just from the regular flu, why they dont declare a war on that?
My big concern is if our corporate dictatorship lobbies for an untested (or lightly tested) vaccine and mandates its use in our country so they can profit on more of our tax dollars (which Obamacare is to broke to cover.)
what is scarry is that the worlds population is out of control with the lesser educated [lower intelligence, poverty stricken] masses having the majority of children...a vaccine to inoculate against ebola gone wrong would definately be a means to population control????????????
what is scarry is that the worlds population is out of control with the lesser educated [lower intelligence, poverty stricken] masses having the majority of children...a vaccine to inoculate against ebola gone wrong would definately be a means to population control????????????
Lets keep in mind that Obama's white house science scar (well czar, lol) John P. Holdren wrote a book about population control and putting chemicals in the water for example to force sterilization along with other methods.
Thanks! Im overseas on vacation so Im a little out of touch with Ebola (and isnt that a good thing? lol) Things I heard...thought sending the military along with 3,000 troops to fight ebola is ridiculous. Are you kidding me? Are the troops doctors? We are fighting a war on a tactic (terrorism) and now we are declaring war on Ebola? Gimme a break. I know the criminals in Washington and United Nations not only want to expand their new world order all though the middle, but Africa has largely been a part of this as well. This reminds me of the swine flue epidemic (so they called it.) 50,000 Americans die every year from the regular just from the regular flu, why they dont declare a war on that? My big concern is if our corporate dictatorship lobbies for an untested (or lightly tested) vaccine and mandates its use in our country so they can profit on more of our tax dollars (which Obamacare is to broke to cover.)