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First cycle and using 5 compounds give me advice.

srblan said:
Why not add slin into the mix too? I mean sure, you are very likely to go into hypoglycemic shock, but it can pack on size like none other. The point is not to see how many drugs your body can tolerate - when your receptors are fresh, you get a lot of bang out of just a little compound. There's a finite amount of size you can add in one cycle because you only have a finite number of receptors to use everything. The rest just becomes side effect fuel.
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Bro, this is not the thread for logic and science!
 
Waste of time having test prop in there anyway only has a half life of 24-48 hrs need to be running that ed and is it tren ace or e if ace ed also but probly only half that seems a totally fkd up stack thb
 
Run tren ace 100mg test prop 100mg mast prop 100 mg ed 5 days weekends off proviron 150mg sat and sun boldo 1g ew all the way through you want gains do that lean gains to 7 kg mass in 3.5 months hcg + clomid e 4-6 weeks understand what ya fkn with and yall gain
 
srblan said:
Why not add slin into the mix too? I mean sure, you are very likely to go into hypoglycemic shock, but it can pack on size like none other. The point is not to see how many drugs your body can tolerate - when your receptors are fresh, you get a lot of bang out of just a little compound. There's a finite amount of size you can add in one cycle because you only have a finite number of receptors to use everything. The rest just becomes side effect fuel.
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I am adding insulin next week, but I'll probably add HGH mid cycle. And yes I really am doing all this it isn't a joke and only pussies use one compound on the first cycle. I don't care about sides at all.
 
Hercules29 said:
I am adding insulin next week, but I'll probably add HGH mid cycle. And yes I really am doing all this it isn't a joke and only pussies use one compound on the first cycle. I don't care about sides at all.
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Correction, only educated people use one compound for their first cycle. What happens in 5 years when you want to up the ante? Just add more and see how long it takes for your heart to stop?

Even on gear there is only a certain amount of growth that can occur; you are not and can not be an infinite source of muscle in a brief period of time. For someone who likes to have science thrown at them to prove them wrong you have absolutely zero understanding of basic human biology. Why is it always these people who ask for scientific studies yet have no idea of the basics?

You think because you have spent 10 minutes researching that you know more than half the vets in this thread who have spent years in this game? Grow up. You're not a know it all and you have no idea what you are doing.
 
Jiigzz said:
Correction, only educated people use one compound for their first cycle. What happens in 5 years when you want to up the ante? Just add more and see how long it takes for your heart to stop?

Even on gear there is only a certain amount of growth that can occur; you are not and can not be an infinite source of muscle in a brief period of time. For someone who likes to have science thrown at them to prove them wrong you have absolutely zero understanding of basic human biology. Why is it always these people who ask for scientific studies yet have no idea of the basics?

You think because you have spent 10 minutes researching that you know more than half the vets in this thread who have spent years in this game? Grow up. You're not a know it all and you have no idea what you are doing.
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More like these so called vets have spent years using one or two compounds while I make more gains in one cycle using 5 compounds plus the insulin. There is no educated people besides the actual scientists testing compounds on mice. 95% of the advice is bro science since when have you heard an actual scientist say to use one compound only?

I am a smart guy and I know that using more compounds on my first cycle will give me the best results. The side effects can be neutralized from AI so what the hell is the problem?. I think these guys are just jealous. My next cycle will be sus 250 with insulin and a high dose of tren. I've already planned ahead.

And again I don't care how my body reacts because I know it's getting bigger and that's all that matters to me. (I'm not trolling either). I really am using 5 compounds. Well 6 now if you count the insulin
 
Coming from a diabetic of 30 years, start your insulin dosing off at around 20-26 units at each meal, and adjust from there. Do that for a week or so, then come back and post how big your gains are. You should get some real deadly results with that. :thumbsup:
 
juniorab said:
Coming from a diabetic of 30 years, start your insulin dosing off at around 20-26 units at each meal, and adjust from there. Do that for a week or so, then come back and post how big your gains are. You should get some real deadly results with that. :thumbsup:
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I already know to start at 6iu post workout and work up to 10 at the end of the week. So now I'll be running 6 compounds is there anything else I'm missing?
 
Really? You're going to take it post workout instead of pre and not use the benefit of it stopping catabolic effects to your 100% advantage amongst numerous other advantages it provides? Sounds like you might need to do a bit more research on insulin if you're going to try and get to IFBB pro beast mode status.
 
Hercules29 said:
I already know to start at 6iu post workout and work up to 10 at the end of the week. So now I'll be running 6 compounds is there anything else I'm missing?
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Some of that Synthol bro you will blow up!!! Who needs strength when you got dat Size!
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juniorab said:
Really? You're going to take it post workout instead of pre and not use the benefit of it stopping catabolic effects to your 100% advantage amongst numerous other advantages it provides? Sounds like you might need to do a bit more research on insulin if you're going to try and get to IFBB pro beast mode status.
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Well I won't have slin until this monday so I will do more research my friend is a diabetic so he can show me how to use it. My dealer said post workout for some reason
 
Hercules29 said:
Well I won't have slin until this monday so I will do more research my friend is a diabetic so he can show me how to use it. My dealer said post workout for some reason
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Are your diabetic friend and your dealer also pro bodybuilders that know how to use insulin to it's anabolic maximum?
 
juniorab said:
Are your diabetic friend and your dealer also pro bodybuilders that know how to use insulin to it's anabolic maximum?
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Unfortunately I don't know any pro bodybuilders so I don't know how to use it to it's maximum I just made sure that I'm going to use the right doses so I don't die. So pre is better then?
 
juniorab said:
Are your diabetic friend and your dealer also pro bodybuilders that know how to use insulin to it's anabolic maximum?
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I'm actually pretty curious about this (not trolling), isn't test better as an anabolic because it won't pack on fat/water like insulin.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
I'm actually pretty curious about this (not trolling), isn't test better as an anabolic because it won't pack on fat/water like insulin.
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Insulin is THE most anabolic hormone in the human body, bar none. But it is also the most dangerous to mess with.

There are basically 3 different results you can get from using insulin:

1) You get really fuking huge and pack on a crap load of muscle
2) You get really fuking fat and pack on a crap load of blubber
or
3) you get really fuking dead

It all depends on if you know what you are doing with it. Down to proper carbs/unit of insulin usage, timing of usage, and amount taken per shot. I've had the fortune to sit down with many of the big name pro's Like Ronnie, Jay, Lee Priest, Vince Taylor, Gunter, Dexter, Markus and a few more. I've gone out to dinner with them all and was able to talk candidly with them about how to use my insulin to my bodybuilding advantage. The sh!t they told me was unbelievable. What most people in the general public "think" that the pro's are doing is so far off from what they are actually doing, it's not even funny.

Insulin is not something for any first timer, or anyone who isn't trying to turn pro, should even consider. If you pass out from going hypo and no one is around, that's it. There's no waking up. Hell, I'm a diabetic and I'm SUPPOSE to take insulin and it can still kill me.
 
Hercules29 said:
Unfortunately I don't know any pro bodybuilders so I don't know how to use it to it's maximum I just made sure that I'm going to use the right doses so I don't die. So pre is better then?
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Pssssst. You. Hey you. I'm bigger then you. Just letting you know. You're tall and lanky. Kinda like string beans. Or spaghetti noodles.
 
juniorab said:
Insulin is THE most anabolic hormone in the human body, bar none. But it is also the most dangerous to mess with.

There are basically 3 different results you can get from using insulin:

1) You get really fuking huge and pack on a crap load of muscle
2) You get really fuking fat and pack on a crap load of blubber
or
3) you get really fuking dead

It all depends on if you know what you are doing with it. Down to proper carbs/unit of insulin usage, timing of usage, and amount taken per shot. I've had the fortune to sit down with many of the big name pro's Like Ronnie, Jay, Lee Priest, Vince Taylor, Gunter, Dexter, Markus and a few more. I've gone out to dinner with them all and was able to talk candidly with them about how to use my insulin to my bodybuilding advantage. The sh!t they told me was unbelievable. What most people in the general public "think" that the pro's are doing is so far off from what they are actually doing, it's not even funny.

Insulin is not something for any first timer, or anyone who isn't trying to turn pro, should even consider. If you pass out from going hypo and no one is around, that's it. There's no waking up. Hell, I'm a diabetic and I'm SUPPOSE to take insulin and it can still kill me.
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I will be under supervision from my father who is a diabetic and yes he is calling me a ****ing idiot, but some things I just have to do since I'm going for IFBB. I heard 4-6 week and the dosages are 6iu first day going up to 10iu by the end of the week and then to stay at 10 iu for the remainder of the 4-6 week cycle. I know people are looking and thinking I'm a complete retard, but I'm 29 and can make my own decisions. I am starting the insulin next week. We all die some day anyway so some risks just have to be taken to achieve certain goals. Any pointers?
 
I weight 243 and I'm for inches shorter. Yeah I'm bigger sorry you're lanky. Also until this last month I too was "natural".
 
He is an entertaining troll though btw. Arms as big as my body :) good stuff
 
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