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Article: The Science Of Getting Shredded

Great article. I will have to give this method a shot. I am 10 lbs lighter than you, and went down to 120g carbs and lost a ton of strength. Will keep carbs high next time and see.
 
One size does not fit all: There are many whose insulin sensitivity isn't 110% and cannot and should not consume >75g carbs/day. Where do these folks fit in as far as recomping? At best, carb cycling? Perhaps those on AAS can consume larger amount of carbs because of increased insulin sensitivity from the drugs, but not someone who is natty and that may have some insulin resistance issues (more than half the population >40). Eating an excess of carbs will jack up insulin with the end resulting in excess bodyfat.
Also, does it makes sense with someone who has >18% bodyfat to be consuming >75g carbs daily if they desire to lose fat?

There is an extensive body of research from scientiists Phinney and Volek that dispute the notion that plenty of carbs are necessary for fuel for athletes and that fat is the primary fuel, basically a keto diet. They have found that fat is also more protein-sparing than carbs which flies in the face of prior studies. The idea is that you can "fat adapt" your body so that it preferentially burns fat stores, sparing protein. Their book, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance goes into detail on this.

At the end of the day, there seems to be arguments on both ends; I'm just not sure which one is right.

That's why perhaps to err of the side of cautoin, one would do a CKD (cyclical keto diet) or TKD (targeted keto diet) which may be best methods because they incorporate the best of both arguments.

Here's some other interesting studies:
Very-low-carbohydrate diets and preservation of muscle mass
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"A subsequent study by Volek et al. using a VLCARB during energy-restriction noted a greater decrease in lean body mass in men
who consumed a VLCARB than in men won consumed a high-carbohydrate/low-fat diet. However, resting energy expenditure was maintained in men consuming the VLCARB but decreased on the high-carbohydrate/low-fat diet, strongly suggesting that the VLCARB group did not lose muscle mass."

Effects of dietary carbohydrate restriction with high protein intake on protein metabolism and the somatotropic axis.
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Thoughts?
 
mcs5309 said:
One size does not fit all: There are many whose insulin sensitivity isn't 110% and cannot and should not consume >75g carbs/day. Where do these folks fit in as far as recomping? At best, carb cycling? Perhaps those on AAS can consume larger amount of carbs because of increased insulin sensitivity from the drugs, but not someone who is natty and that may have some insulin resistance issues (more than half the population >40). Eating an excess of carbs will jack up insulin with the end resulting in excess bodyfat.
Also, does it makes sense with someone who has >18% bodyfat to be consuming >75g carbs daily if they desire to lose fat?

There is an extensive body of research from scientiists Phinney and Volek that dispute the notion that plenty of carbs are necessary for fuel for athletes and that fat is the primary fuel, basically a keto diet. They have found that fat is also more protein-sparing than carbs which flies in the face of prior studies. The idea is that you can "fat adapt" your body so that it preferentially burns fat stores, sparing protein. Their book, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance goes into detail on this.

At the end of the day, there seems to be arguments on both ends; I'm just not sure which one is right.

That's why perhaps to err of the side of cautoin, one would do a CKD (cyclical keto diet) or TKD (targeted keto diet) which may be best methods because they incorporate the best of both arguments.

Here's some other interesting studies:
Very-low-carbohydrate diets and preservation of muscle mass
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"A subsequent study by Volek et al. using a VLCARB during energy-restriction noted a greater decrease in lean body mass in men
who consumed a VLCARB than in men won consumed a high-carbohydrate/low-fat diet. However, resting energy expenditure was maintained in men consuming the VLCARB but decreased on the high-carbohydrate/low-fat diet, strongly suggesting that the VLCARB group did not lose muscle mass."

Effects of dietary carbohydrate restriction with high protein intake on protein metabolism and the somatotropic axis.
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Thoughts?
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I hear what you are saying. My A1C is 5.7 which is borderline prediabetic (type 2). I have had problems getting below 10.6% body fat and recently tried something called Chromium Picolinate that made me very tired and gave me head aches. I'm not going to try Recompadrol. Next stop will be actual drugs. But I did start this diet. I want to try eating more Protein but not necessarily more carbs. I want to keep the carbs at about 50%.
I tried Keto diet and can't go with zero carbs for 3 days. Im tired and hungry and can't focus.
 
To add to my above points, here's an article that showed up today in AM that blasts the higher carb/lower fat myth:
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Interesting that there is much opposite writing in the same forum. This forces us to make our own decisions or experiment. Some can't handle LCHF diets and crash, but I think those are the ones who aren't fat-adapted.
 
mcs5309 said:
To add to my above points, here's an article that showed up today in AM that blasts the higher carb/lower fat myth. Interesting that there is much opposite writing in the same forum. This forces us to make our own decisions or experiment. Some can't handle LCHF diets and crash, but I think those are the ones who aren't fat-adapted.
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It is interesting. But like you said. We must experiment. I tried the high fat low carb diet and it worked fantastically, however I lost a lot of strength and it took me a month to get it back. I'm going to try this method and see how it is.
 
dbrock504 said:
It is interesting. But like you said. We must experiment. I tried the high fat low carb diet and it worked fantastically, however I lost a lot of strength and it took me a month to get it back. I'm going to try this method and see how it is.
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The only way to know if one can tolerate carbs is to test PPBG with a glucose meter, otherwise taking advice to eat more carbs even if you train hard is shooting in the dark.
 
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