R4J- The 1, dermafury, sust400, test prop, t3, tren ace.

Good lift tonight!

Tricep pushdowns
135x15
155x12
185x12
Full stackx12

Reverse grip
100x12x3

Machine preacher curl
90x10x3

Db skullcrushers
40dbsX12x3

Chest press and dips superset

Chest press
275x12
225x12
135x8
Dips
10
10
8
6

Curls
80x12x3

Dip machine drop sets
Full stackx12
3/4 stackx12
1/2 stackx15
1/4 stackx25

Gear
100mg methyldht (dropping down to 75mg due to decreased appetite)
Pinned 100mg sust today because it was a delt shot. 400mg total a week.

Idk about dermafury yet...looks like I may have to dose that high if my liver needs a break. Methyls will need to be dosed lower. Maybe need to pick up some tudca or udca. Or I'll get some liv52.
 
Strong triceps!!!
 
Everything is going good still, staying fairly lean on methyldht but im up 5 pounds.
 
Does the 1 make a good base, like dht products (stano, epiandro), or is methyl dht something different altogether? I'm looking for a good base for my next run (msten, halo). This stack you're doing sounds great!
 
Does the 1 make a good base, like dht products (stano, epiandro), or is methyl dht something different altogether? I'm looking for a good base for my next run (msten, halo). This stack you're doing sounds great!

Ya it would imo...but of course test would be better. Because Its not an oral methyl.
Don't run msten and halo together. But maybe msten and the 1 as long as your using your cycle assist and Tudca or liv52.
 
Ya it would imo...but of course test would be better. Because Its not an oral methyl.
Don't run msten and halo together. But maybe msten and the 1 as long as your using your cycle assist and Tudca or liv52.

Well, I hear you but am screwed as I already have 2 bottles GEC Oxydrone (7mg msten, 25mg halo). I've done superdmz3.0 and was fine, but I want to add a base for lethargy. Was thinking about stano, or epiandro (which is working good in my current 120mg dermatren cycle) when I noticed the1 was methyldht. But I don't need another methyl. I have liv52 and TUDCA, and drink a gallon and a half of water ed. Don't want to hijack- keep it up bro, and thanks!
 
Well, I hear you but am screwed as I already have 2 bottles GEC Oxydrone (7mg msten, 25mg halo). I've done superdmz3.0 and was fine, but I want to add a base for lethargy. Was thinking about stano, or epiandro (which is working good in my current 120mg dermatren cycle) when I noticed the1 was methyldht. But I don't need another methyl. I have liv52 and TUDCA, and drink a gallon and a half of water ed. Don't want to hijack- keep it up bro, and thanks!

Sell it, throw it away, return it, but don't swallow it because you have it. Doesn't sound like a brand I've Heard of either. Np, talk like that is encouraged in here bro.
 
Hey man 1 last question: since I'm stuck with running halo/msten, and no way to get test, would you take 4-ad, stano, or epiandro ( or dermacrine)? You've helped me before and I appreciate it. I was leaning to stano.
 
Man its a good brand, $200 worth. I know someone that had good gains with it. Not trying to argue, just already set and did some research on it. It's not really an uncommon mix, and certainly less toxic that some others like superdmz3.0
 
Hey man 1 last question: since I'm stuck with running halo/msten, and no way to get test, would you take 4-ad, stano, or epiandro ( or dermacrine)? You've helped me before and I appreciate it. I was leaning to stano.
Id do oral trestolone. Make sure your run adex.
Man its a good brand, $200 worth. I know someone that had good gains with it. Not trying to argue, just already set and did some research on it. It's not really an uncommon mix, and certainly less toxic that some others like superdmz3.0

You need to reevaluated your approach to steroid use, you don't use 2 compounds because they are not an uncommon Mix. You use them because they work synergistically together. Im not talking about toxicity, im sure youll be fine. Even though its going to put unnecessary stress on your body.
In the future, good brands are Olympus, Celtic, lgi, ironflex, iml, Blackstone, and maybe a few others.
Run your cycle because it sounds like that's what your going to do regardless of my advice, just use your cycle assist, tudca, liv52. And run a solid pct consisting of nolva and/or Clomid. Im sure you'll make some gains, that's what steroids do lol. S dmz3. Is ****ing stupid btw
 
Id do oral trestolone. Make sure your run adex.


You need to reevaluated your approach to steroid use, you don't use 2 compounds because they are not an uncommon Mix. You use them because they work synergistically together. Im not talking about toxicity, im sure youll be fine. Even though its going to put unnecessary stress on your body.
In the future, good brands are Olympus, Celtic, lgi, ironflex, iml, Blackstone, and maybe a few others.
Run your cycle because it sounds like that's what your going to do regardless of my advice, just use your cycle assist, tudca, liv52. And run a solid pct consisting of nolva and/or Clomid. Im sure you'll make some gains, that's what steroids do lol. S dmz3. Is ****ing stupid btw
Noted, and agreed. I'm sure you also like exem as a good AI (I already have it). Sometimes it's tough to communicate in brief txt- I chose to try hal/msten for strength and bulk with some characteristics of Hal thrown in- but I heard you and will keep it in mind now. You have more experience than me and I like your thinking. I'm pretty new to this and still learning (hard to learn at 44)! I'm off to kick some weights ass, on OL dermatren and epiandro hard. I'm really liking this cycle- blows away the sdmz3 cycle I did (yet I had good gains on it, but felt ****tier and gains not as good, or as fast). Thanks reps
 
Noted, and agreed. I'm sure you also like exem as a good AI (I already have it). Sometimes it's tough to communicate in brief txt- I chose to try hal/msten for strength and bulk with some characteristics of Hal thrown in- but I heard you and will keep it in mind now. You have more experience than me and I like your thinking. I'm pretty new to this and still learning (hard to learn at 44)! I'm off to kick some weights ass, on OL dermatren and epiandro hard. I'm really liking this cycle- blows away the sdmz3 cycle I did (yet I had good gains on it, but felt ****tier and gains not as good, or as fast). Thanks reps

No prob man! Make a log of any log you do and ill follow. Hmu with any questions
 
So im at 75mg methyl dht and appitite is back and im staying dry. I may stay here for a while! Not really lifting for strength but lifts are obviously up.
Agression is up. And libido is pretty ****in good lol
Adding in dermafury tomorrow or the next day. At 1ml a day.
 
Added in dermafury today!
Very nice application Dries nearly instantly for me. Smells awesome
 
I like the dermafury smell and everything so far. Cant comments on any initial effects though. There are none.
Ad for the methyl dht..it seems to be a great leaning compound. Not as much for strength and mass.
 
Damn iv been so busy lately.
Switching sust for test e tomorrow.
1 pump dermafury I will try 2 soon
Still on methyl dht for a week or two longer. 75mg
Going to start t3 again after that and start tren. With prami at 100mcg a day.
 
Damn iv been so busy lately.
Switching sust for test e tomorrow.
1 pump dermafury I will try 2 soon
Still on methyl dht for a week or two longer. 75mg
Going to start t3 again after that and start tren. With prami at 100mcg a day.

Keep sticking to 1 pump for a week, initial feedback shows that its active at 100mg so lets try to establish that with you before you increase
 
Holy vascualrity. Today was insane. Training was great im going to confirm dermafury active at 100-150mg because im eyeing it. It has my veins popping while training and insane grainy look. And im not cutting. Im in a surplus.
 
Holy vascualrity. Today was insane. Training was great im going to confirm dermafury active at 100-150mg because im eyeing it. It has my veins popping while training and insane grainy look. And im not cutting. Im in a surplus.

Nice.... Pretty much the feeling I'm getting off of it..
 
Holy vascualrity. Today was insane. Training was great im going to confirm dermafury active at 100-150mg because im eyeing it. It has my veins popping while training and insane grainy look. And im not cutting. Im in a surplus.

That derma fury is td furza right? Looks like good stuff from all of the feedback.
 
Ok, so methyl dht is being officially dropped today. Final review to come. I didnt use the whole bottle due to some health issues that are telling me to take a break from orals.
 
FINAL REVIEW of THE 1.
Im gonna hit you guys with my honest feedback and thoughts on the product.
Ill be reviewing it in a few different areas.

Physical sides
Mental sides
Mass gain
Strength gain
Libido
How effective for cutting
How effective for bulking
Fat loss
Overall

Physical sides-joints hurt like a bitch, had to stop dosing my ai. Obvious decreased appitite at high doses.

Mental sides-aggressiveness which is good.

Mass gain-it doesnt shine in this area. Im growing because im eating. I gained around 7 pounds in the short time I was on this. Keeps you lean while gaining.

Strength-not training for strength but all my lifts have gone up significantly.


Libido-crazy. Lol. It shines here.

How effective for cutting-very. This is its use imo. The first part of the cycle I was still in a cutting phase and wow it Drys you out. Almost to much. Its a good compound for cutting.

How effective for bulking-there are Bette options, it will keep you lean while bulking if that is your desire.

Fat loss-im up in weight but obviosuly leaner.


Overal-7.8/10- its a great cutter, not much of a mass compound, but an overall feel good conpound. Hard on the joints though.

Final thoughts-thanks olymous. I like this compound and its a hell of a kicker to my long cycle.

I will run this again at some point. Already have another bottle I bought from a buddy.

Feel free to ask questions about the compound.
 
11 more weeks minimum.
Going to be on
Test
Tren
Dermafury
Albuterol 4mg 3 times a day
 
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