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I am on week 5 of my Dbol, Tren ace, androtest cycle.

Stats are 29 years old, 6`5 250lbs (pre cycle weight) and around 12% bf

dbol 50mg ed, weeks 1-4
Tren ace 50mg ed (350 mg weekly)
Androtest 300mg weekly

So far I've gained around 16-18 pounds. I am not sure how much is water or not because I am leaner than when I started and my strength is through to f***ing roof.

My question is I started out with obviously 300mg test a week. More test = more water retention right? I see people talking of running a 2:1 ratio of tren/test (tren being higher) I am roughly at a 1:1 ratio. What advantages and or disadvantages would I see if I dropped my test to roughly 150mg a week and kept my tren the same?
 

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No one has a single opinion out there to share? Nobody at all?
 
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Just use an AI. Don't drop your test if its working. Any sides from the tren?
 

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The only side I can complain about is wicked and sometimes painful lower back pumps. Makes me not even want to deadlift or back squat at all. It comes and goes too. Other than that no sides. Bench went up from 1 rep max of 295 to 375. Military press I used to do 90s for 7-8 reps now I can do 125s 8 reps. Single arm dumbbell rows I can do 150s now previous was 120s. Strength gains have been just wild I don't even know what to say. Arms have grown from 17 inch to 18 1/4 inch around. I am not as lean as I want to be but I'm thinking it's diet related now because I definitely am eating roughly 350-400 grams protein, 400-450 grams carbs and around 150 grams of fat a day. I am going to try dropping carbs to around 200-250 and add another 100 grams of fat.
 
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The only side I can complain about is wicked and sometimes painful lower back pumps. Makes me not even want to deadlift or back squat at all. It comes and goes too. Other than that no sides. Bench went up from 1 rep max of 295 to 375. Military press I used to do 90s for 7-8 reps now I can do 125s 8 reps. Single arm dumbbell rows I can do 150s now previous was 120s. Strength gains have been just wild I don't even know what to say. Arms have grown from 17 inch to 18 1/4 inch around. I am not as lean as I want to be but I'm thinking it's diet related now because I definitely am eating roughly 350-400 grams protein, 400-450 grams carbs and around 150 grams of fat a day. I am going to try dropping carbs to around 200-250 and add another 100 grams of fat.
Dude your bench is up that much on week 5?!?!
Oh god I am so excited to run this lol
Are you bull****ting?
 

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Not one bit I feel like it helped me in all the areas I was lacking. My pulling movements (rows lat pull downs etc) didn't increase a whole lot. I was already pretty strong there. My pressing movements were under par for my size I felt and that's what exploded. I also ate a good amount and lifted heavy all the way through up to this point too. Some compounds are amazing for some and so so for others. I didn't get a whole lot of strength from my sustanon and eq cycle. I just got mass. Tren though... If I get no extreme sides for the next 6-7 more weeks this **** is worth it's weight in gold and I will always use it as my go to. I dunno if I mentioned it or not but I started the first 4 weeks of this cycle with Dbol @ 50mg a day added with my test/Tren. That definitely contributed to the strength gains as well.
 
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No one has a single opinion out there to share? Nobody at all?
That will help drop water off, but sex drive.might take a hit also. Be sure and keep a close eye on Ur prolactin level.

Did u run T3 with this?

Honestly, dropping the Dbol alone will shed water fast and the back pumps will also go away. That is a typical side on Dbol or any watery oral for that matter.
 

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I have not run T3 I am going to start taking Arimidex to help shed excess water. What doesage should I run the arimidex at ed or eod? Other than the back pumps I've literally had no sides. No indication of gyno starting, no night sweats, no extra aggression (I'm a junkyard pit bull by nature anyway) I sweat a ton more when I'm lifting but that I enjoy.
 
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I have not run T3 I am going to start taking Arimidex to help shed excess water. What doesage should I run the arimidex at ed or eod? Other than the back pumps I've literally had no sides. No indication of gyno starting, no night sweats, no extra aggression (I'm a junkyard pit bull by nature anyway) I sweat a ton more when I'm lifting but that I enjoy.
.5mg eod
 

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My test is @ 300mg a week if I drop it to 180mg a week will my libido take a nose dive? I've read lower test helps you stay leaner on tren which is what I want I'm definitely happy with my size so far I want to cut up the second half of my cycle. If my libido doesn't take a hit and I will get leaner then I will drop my test to 180mg. My wife just had our daughter a few weeks ago and her lady parts are all healed and she says she can be back in action in the next week or so and she's dying for some lovin. I want to make sure my manhood is ready to rock and roll. So far at 300mg test has me ready to f*** anything with a pulse. Like I said is dropping the test to 180mg going to take the function of that away?
 

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