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Article: Lack Of Activity Cause Of Obesity Epidemic

kind of conflicts with the ab diet article you just put up. Infact they are saying the exact opposite things
 
Umm...you do know we don't write these. Its News from the industry.
 
It's not in conflict. One is saying that calories determine whether you put on weight. The other is saying that calories haven't changed since the 50s nor the macro nutrient profile so the lack of physical activity is responsible driving up obesity. Both are saying that if you eat more than you burn you put on weight.
 
I would believe it. My weight shot up once I got a desk job.,,,and my last job wasnt particularly labor intensive either, just walked alot.
 
well im just pointing out that the other article was saying activity doesn't burn many cals which is true and this 1 saying lack of activity is the problem. either way i think it takes both. i think people are fat because they stuff thier faces with junk and just eat way to much, never skip meals ect then the fatter you get the less active you become. fat people just gorge themselves period and i think lap band surgery proves this
 
fightnews said:
well im just pointing out that the other article was saying activity doesn't burn many cals which is true and this 1 saying lack of activity is the problem. either way i think it takes both. i think people are fat because they stuff thier faces with junk and just eat way to much, never skip meals ect then the fatter you get the less active you become. fat people just gorge themselves period and i think lap band surgery proves this
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I dunno about that. Most folks that surround me at work and in my personal life that arent active bodybuilders actually eat 1 to 3 meals a day, with one often being a "snack". I regularly see folks eat 1500kcals or less per day, which is barely the required amount for any BMR. People eat big meals sometimes, high in calories, but very seldom through the day.

Considering that I eat 2500 - 3000 kcal / day, and I regularly get comments about how much I eat... I don't think that inactive folks are eating too much.

When u eat too little, the metabolism shuts down on purpose. This is basic metabolism science that had been around for decades yet folks seem to believe that it's all about how many calories u eat. If Ur BMR reduces itself to adjust to ur starvation, ur metabolism goes with it, causing perpetual and excessive fat gain and no muscle growth. Hence, the Super weak, super fat folks that we commonly observe in society.

The busyness of society has caused folks to under eat, AND stay under nutritioned as well as being inactive. Combine those things and u got fat folks.
 
I agree with fightnews on this in that people east way more than they should. But I think most people don't necessary gorge but eat through out the day. We have a TV show here in the UK called secret eaters where individuals are monitored by private detectives to give out what they eat. And evey single person eats at least 50% more calories than they record in the food diaries.
 
fueledpassion said:
I dunno about that. Most folks that surround me at work and in my personal life that arent active bodybuilders actually eat 1 to 3 meals a day, with one often being a "snack". I regularly see folks eat 1500kcals or less per day, which is barely the required amount for any BMR. People eat big meals sometimes, high in calories, but very seldom through the day.

Considering that I eat 2500 - 3000 kcal / day, and I regularly get comments about how much I eat... I don't think that inactive folks are eating too much.

When u eat too little, the metabolism shuts down on purpose. This is basic metabolism science that had been around for decades yet folks seem to believe that it's all about how many calories u eat. If Ur BMR reduces itself to adjust to ur starvation, ur metabolism goes with it, causing perpetual and excessive fat gain and no muscle growth. Hence, the Super weak, super fat folks that we commonly observe in society.

The busyness of society has caused folks to under eat, AND stay under nutritioned as well as being inactive. Combine those things and u got fat folks.
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well how come when the obese get surgery to shrink their fat stomach so they cant eat they rapidly lose weight?
 
saggy321 said:
I agree with fightnews on this in that people east way more than they should. But I think most people don't necessary gorge but eat through out the day. We have a TV show here in the UK called secret eaters where individuals are monitored by private detectives to give out what they eat. And evey single person eats at least 50% more calories than they record in the food diaries.
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lol of course complete delusional people, do they get confronted on the show? how do they react?
 
They do at the end of it. Some of these people are recording calories of 1800 when they are having over 3000. They are shocked when they are shown the footage possibly because because they eat much of their food without being aware of it. When they are put on lower calorie meal plan they all drop up to a 14 lbs in 6 to 8 weeks and they asked to be involved in the show because they could not understand why they were putting weight on. Apparently they had tried everything and were blaming it on bad genetics or a slow metabolism!
 
saggy321 said:
They do at the end of it. Some of these people are recording calories of 1800 when they are having over 3000. They are shocked when they are shown the footage possibly because because they eat much of their food without being aware of it. When they are put on lower calorie meal plan they all drop up to a 14 lbs in 6 to 8 weeks and they asked to be involved in the show because they could not understand why they were putting weight on. Apparently they had tried everything and were blaming it on bad genetics or a slow metabolism!
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of course they blame anything but themselves, typical
 
fightnews said:
well how come when the obese get surgery to shrink their fat stomach so they cant eat they rapidly lose weight?
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You'll lose weight by not eating, just not fat. U might get down from 400 to 200lbs, but u ' ll still be 25-30% bf because u didn't eat. Rather, the body chose to reduce the metabolism as a long term solution to starvation. The metabolism is reduced by eating muscle mass.

Besides, I'm not saying that NO ONE gets fat from eating too much. There are plenty of huge folks that are too fat because they have eating disorders and eat foods that swing insulin levels, which causes perpetual hunger.

However, mainstream society hardly eats 2000-2200 kcal a day. Most overweight folks eat less than that. I can't even grow on that amount of calories but many folks that weigh 50 lbs heavier than me do. This means their BMR is much lower, indicating a low muscle mass for their body.

Morbidly obese folks eat lots though, mainly sue to an eating disorder but they are outliers and are not a metabolic anomaly like the rest are.
 
I'm going out on a limb with this I know, but what if it is a combination of eating too much and a sedentary lifestyle? I mean, just what if? lol
 
fueledpassion said:
You'll lose weight by not eating, just not fat. U might get down from 400 to 200lbs, but u ' ll still be 25-30% bf because u didn't eat. Rather, the body chose to reduce the metabolism as a long term solution to starvation. The metabolism is reduced by eating muscle mass.

Besides, I'm not saying that NO ONE gets fat from eating too much. There are plenty of huge folks that are too fat because they have eating disorders and eat foods that swing insulin levels, which causes perpetual hunger.

However, mainstream society hardly eats 2000-2200 kcal a day. Most overweight folks eat less than that. I can't even grow on that amount of calories but many folks that weigh 50 lbs heavier than me do. This means their BMR is much lower, indicating a low muscle mass for their body.

Morbidly obese folks eat lots though, mainly sue to an eating disorder but they are outliers and are not a metabolic anomaly like the rest are.
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Seriously. I would have said the opposite that most people are over fed without knowing it.
 
saggy321 said:
Seriously. I would have said the opposite that most people are over fed without knowing it.
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I imagine it's a number of things but this idea of overeating isn't necessarily the culprit. It's a lack of activity. I realize it all amounts to the same thing - eat less do less or continue eating the same and do more. Either way, physical activity has benefits that extend far beyond burning extra calories so I'd say it has priority in the life of humans.

People that are gaining weight on 2000-2500kcals per day (which I know many that are) might need to consider doing more activity first and secondly replacing the crap food with nutrient dense alternatives. Then perhaps cutting calories would be the answer after those first two have been exhausted.

Eating too many calories is an oversimplified explanation, IMO.
 
Lack of activity, learned behavior, lack of self accountability , lack of consequence and poor diet combined is the cause of obesity.

Blaming the food industry, the media and anything else is preposterous.
It's a multiple angle problem with many solutions.
 
I think all these things play a part. But seriously this is has been shown extensively in the UK that people eat more than they record and they remember less than they record. So unless you are watching some one 24 hours a day most people will be eating far more than they think.
 
saggy321 said:
I think all these things play a part. But seriously this is has been shown extensively in the UK that people eat more than they record and they remember less than they record. So unless you are watching some one 24 hours a day most people will be eating far more than they think.
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Secret eaters? Haha!
 
saggy321 said:
I think all these things play a part. But seriously this is has been shown extensively in the UK that people eat more than they record and they remember less than they record. So unless you are watching some one 24 hours a day most people will be eating far more than they think.
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I've always been an undereater until the last 12 months so I have a hard time relating to that problem.

It's all I could do to eat 3400kcals/day, granted, I usually keep it healthy and high fiber so that makes things harder to do.
 
fueledpassion said:
I've always been an undereater until the last 12 months so I have a hard time relating to that problem.

It's all I could do to eat 3400kcals/day, granted, I usually keep it healthy and high fiber so that makes things harder to do.
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Under eaters have a problem with food as well.

Either they are afraid of body fat, afraid of unhealthy food or food that is labeled as such or just outright refuse to track food. Hersey syurp and pancake syurp is an easy way to get calories. Skinny undereaters who are afraid of these things often set themselves up for disappointment.

Under eating is just as serious as overeating. However I believe everyone has an eating disorder of sorts. Learned behaviors are dangerous as well. Psychology is everywhere.
 
saggy321 said:
I think all these things play a part. But seriously this is has been shown extensively in the UK that people eat more than they record and they remember less than they record. So unless you are watching some one 24 hours a day most people will be eating far more than they think.
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I agree with this, its like asking a girl how many guys shes slept with. Whatever they say multiply it by three. Fat people don't want to admit they overeat because that would mean they are admitting fault and nobody does that
 
Diet is more difficult to track than people realize and most people under or over estimate what they eat. I used to ask the guys I was training when they were bulking about the calories that they thought certain things had in it. Not caring about any macros, simply the calories, and they were always way off.

Obvious that most of us on this board are not the average person and will be much more knowledgeable about this, but most people are not. It doesn't surprise me one bit that eating too much or too little is an issue.
 
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