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DHEA Supp

Sprinterguy4 said:
So pregnenelone is added to dhea supps to counteract the hair loss effects
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i can't speak for all dhea supps...but it is ONE of the reasons why it was added to dermacrine, preg has a lot of benefits!!!
 
Sprinterguy4 said:
So pregnenelone is added to dhea supps to counteract the hair loss effects
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No, there really aren't any DHEA/preg supplements to begin with. But, you generally want to start with preg as it sits atop the hormone tree and is milder than DHEA, so sides are less and it offers an opportunity to fill the pathways in a balanced manner. If enough isn't converted to DHEA, then you could look to supplement with it.
 
kisaj said:
No, there really aren't any DHEA/preg supplements to begin with. But, you generally want to start with preg as it sits atop the hormone tree and is milder than DHEA, so sides are less and it offers an opportunity to fill the pathways in a balanced manner. If enough isn't converted to DHEA, then you could look to supplement with it.
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thanks...i needed a laugh!!!
 
kisaj said:
Obviously your product is a dhea/ preg supplement. But what others are there?
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swanson
biomax formulations
ultra botanical
dc labs
get diesel-diesel test pro
last but not least ageforce makes a dhea/preg patch, a sponsor here on this forum.

sure there are many more, that was just from less than 5 minutes of looking.
 
I know many people who will not take oral DHEA (caps/tabs) because of the results they saw from dermacrine. Worth a shot if you are looking for DHEA.
 
Bigs...
I started the Dermacrine on the 30th with one pump. On the 2nd two pumps. Today (the 4th) did 3 pumps (I'm about 200 lbs). Bottle shows I've gone from 130 pumps to just over 90. Which is obviously incorrect. I've had 10 all up.

I'm pushing the pump down all the way. I'm surprised because each pump is quite a large amount, about 1/3 to 1/2 of an androgel packet. Applying to upper back only at this time.

Could this have any effect on libido? Been impotent for close to twelve years when not on external test such as androgel....not sure why. Possibly delivery method. Also - Secondary hypogonadism, sublicinical hyper thyroidism. The neurobiology of trauma (ptsd anxiety etc ) also screws your endocrine system and physiology.

Last few days been feeling a little "off" if you know what i mean.

Applying when i wake up along with my androgel (different application sites obviously) Should i apply them at different times (Dermacrine at night?) In case there is an interaction?

Sketch

Btw - Happy 4th people!!
 
kisaj said:
I stand corrected. I've never looked for oral versions with DHEA included.
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Dhea is a banned substance is Australia. Trying to get my bro some preg. Done some research and most people say if you order and have it shipped its fine (preg). I did find one Aussie supplier (bioeva i think) they offer a cream (transdermal) and capsule. Told my bro to get the cream, likely better absorption. Capsules are 50mg which is or should be the limit. I also (based on the advice and others) wouldn't take anything that isn't sublingual or transdermal when it comes to that...
 
Sketch2000 said:
Bigs...
I started the Dermacrine on the 30th with one pump. On the 2nd two pumps. Today (the 4th) did 3 pumps (I'm about 200 lbs). Bottle shows I've gone from 130 pumps to just over 90. Which is obviously incorrect. I've had 10 all up.

I'm pushing the pump down all the way. I'm surprised because each pump is quite a large amount, about 1/3 to 1/2 of an androgel packet. Applying to upper back only at this time.

Could this have any effect on libido? Been impotent for close to twelve years when not on external test such as androgel....not sure why. Possibly delivery method. Also - Secondary hypogonadism, sublicinical hyper thyroidism. The neurobiology of trauma (ptsd anxiety etc ) also screws your endocrine system and physiology.

Last few days been feeling a little "off" if you know what i mean.

Applying when i wake up along with my androgel (different application sites obviously) Should i apply them at different times (Dermacrine at night?) In case there is an interaction?

Sketch

Btw - Happy 4th people!!
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i don't understand your question, you say you have been impotent for close to 12 years? how is dermacrine effecting this?
 
Not sure if the Dermacrine is affecting my libido. The reason i asked is because my libido has been fine (always is) When using androgel (which i am now)...since I've noticed a change in my libido (lack thereof) i was curious as if Dermacrine could have any affect.

Btw, the 12 year impotence statement is a long story...mostly due to fluctuations in test levels which is corrected with trt. Problem has been (in the past) getting trt when your "low normal"....so it's been on and off thing for twelve years....not consistent thank God.
 
Also curious if I'm pumping too much given what the bottle shows. That's why i mentioned the amount in each pump (between 1/3 to a half of an androgel packet, much thicker solution though). Bottle shows I've done almost 40 pumps!
 
Sketch2000 said:
Also curious if I'm pumping too much given what the bottle shows. That's why i mentioned the amount in each pump (between 1/3 to a half of an androgel packet, much thicker solution though). Bottle shows I've done almost 40 pumps!
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i wondered the same thing when i 1st looked at the gauge. bulk perf says that it is an old label and is not accurate, but assures us that the full amount is in there.
 
Sketch2000 said:
Not sure if the Dermacrine is affecting my libido. The reason i asked is because my libido has been fine (always is) When using androgel (which i am now)...since I've noticed a change in my libido (lack thereof) i was curious as if Dermacrine could have any affect.

Btw, the 12 year impotence statement is a long story...mostly due to fluctuations in test levels which is corrected with trt. Problem has been (in the past) getting trt when your "low normal"....so it's been on and off thing for twelve years....not consistent thank God.
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i have never heard of a negative impact on libido, but i can't rule it out. back down on dosing and see if that has any effect.
 
thebigt said:
i wondered the same thing when i 1st looked at the gauge. bulk perf says that it is an old label and is not accurate, but assures us that the full amount is in there.
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Okay. Thanks. Because from the looks of it I'd be done in a few weeks! So i was a little concerned...
 
thebigt said:
i have never heard of a negative impact on libido, but i can't rule it out. back down on dosing and see if that has any effect.
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Agreed. You can never rule anything out (especially for someone with a history like mine). Nonetheless its a good thing you've never heard of it. I'm probably going to stick with two pumps and see how i go...
 
Sketch2000 said:
Okay. Thanks. Because from the looks of it I'd be done in a few weeks! So i was a little concerned...
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Can't be the label because i can see the amount of gel that's been used by the gauge. Maybe it's the pump? From 130 to just over 90 on the label (used 10 pumps) so the gauge is moving up pretty fast (and with it the gel obviously decreases). No way there's 130 pumps in this. I'm guessing it's dispensing too much....idk
 
Sketch2000 said:
Agreed. You can never rule anything out (especially for someone with a history like mine). Nonetheless its a good thing you've never heard of it. I'm probably going to stick with two pumps and see how i go...
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lol...the old saying that everyone reacts differently....if everyone reacted the way i do on dermacrine it would be $200 and always oos!!!
 
I ran a search on Dermacrine side effects.....couldn't find really anything significant....other than using PCT afterwards or for 6 weeks etc...
I did however find a post here on AnabolicMinds from someone last year...
Experiencing - Lethargy, Tiredness, Sleepiness, Groginess.....etc....you get the point after 3 days of usage. He stopped it...and his "body" began to return to normal....

I'm getting some pretty good pumps at the moment. But my libido is shot....I have the same feeling I do when I'm not running TRT (Androgel) where its like little to nothing....that's been since last night. But I have been VERY tired these last two days - Yesterday I slept from the early morning (was up late mind you...till about 4am) but slept until 10pm!!!!

Today I took my pre workout around 4pm and still fell asleep...

I'm going to discontinue tomorrow.....see how i feel....if these symptoms stop then its obviously the dermacrine....it may take a while to subside...if there have been any slight hormonal changes...but I"m assuming I'll go "back to normal" once I stop (if you start something and you start feeling a little weird than its usually that).

The only other thing I've started is a vitamin (mineral) Magnesium Citrate at nighttime (which can definitely make you tired)...but not to this extent.

I'm also a little feverish today and been sweating like crazy!

Anyway, the good news is if i stop and things go back at least i know what it was....and what it is....doesn't mean its a bad product by any means....what works for some people doesn't work for others....cut and dry....everyone's physiology is different.

Sketch
 
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