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packers6211 said:
Yeah me too. I am going to pick up some more and stack it but with I don't know yet.
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dermacrine and ironflex formabolic is fantastic, i highly recommend-best formestane product i've used in almost 10 years of using formestane. they go great together----just added in endosurge yesterday.
 
Sketch2000 said:
One problem i can foresee using demacrine is that I'm using androgel and therefore would only have my upper back to apply it to which would be a b... I'm already half covered on gel! !lol..maybe i should try the sublingual dhea tabs recommended earlier in the thread but then again i don't want to take it alone. Any good preg supplements to add to out and/ or a sublingual or oral tab that has both??
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using dermacrine with androgel can best be described as tricky. i did it about 6 months or so ago when i was on androgel, but i have a lot of experience with transdermals....i think your best bet in this case is ask wicked if he knows of any discounts and go with the ageforce patch, at least that is what i would do in all honesty.
 
thebigt said:
using dermacrine with androgel can best be described as tricky. i did it about 6 months or so ago when i was on androgel, but i have a lot of experience with transdermals....i think your best bet in this case is ask wicked if he knows of any discounts and go with the ageforce patch, at least that is what i would do in all honesty.
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AgeForce is gona have a killer sale comming up for July 4th!
 
Sketch2000 said:
One problem i can foresee using demacrine is that I'm using androgel and therefore would only have my upper back to apply it to which would be a b... I'm already half covered on gel! !lol..maybe i should try the sublingual dhea tabs recommended earlier in the thread but then again i don't want to take it alone. Any good preg supplements to add to out and/ or a sublingual or oral tab that has both??
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I use Dermacrine along side my T gel (Fortesta) without any issues. I just apply the Dermacrine to a different location. I only need one pump of Dermacrine to get the benefits im seeking so its really not bad at all.
 
ELROCK said:
I use Dermacrine along side my T gel (Fortesta) without any issues. I just apply the Dermacrine to a different location. I only need one pump of Dermacrine to get the benefits im seeking so its really not bad at all.
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But, the sublingual route may be a good option if you are getting tired of applying the transdermals.
 
ELROCK said:
I use Dermacrine along side my T gel (Fortesta) without any issues. I just apply the Dermacrine to a different location. I only need one pump of Dermacrine to get the benefits im seeking so its really not bad at all.
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That bottle will last you like 100 days! Dang!
 
Do the majority of you guys monitor your dhea levels or not and just prefer to supplement because it's so useful
 
Sketch2000 said:
Do the majority of you guys monitor your dhea levels or not and just prefer to supplement because it's so useful
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I'm going to venture to guess most will not monitor. I only do because I run labs every 3 months regardless and I just add it on.
 
kisaj said:
I'm going to venture to guess most will not monitor. I only do because I run labs every 3 months regardless and I just add it on.
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Same here. I get bloods done every 4 months so I basically tell my doc all the things I want checked.
 
Sketch2000 said:
Do the majority of you guys monitor your dhea levels or not and just prefer to supplement because it's so useful
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something intesting about dhea levels in men...18-19 145-395
20-29 280-640 so it actually goes up
30-39 120-520 significant drop.
40-49 95-530 interesting!!!
50-59 70-310 whoa that's low!!!

180 is considered low for men.
 
Just a thought because as with most supps most people want it to be super high without caring about the consequences
 
ELROCK said:
I use Dermacrine along side my T gel (Fortesta) without any issues. I just apply the Dermacrine to a different location. I only need one pump of Dermacrine to get the benefits im seeking so its really not bad at all.
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Whats your weight?
It states 4 pumps needed for someone within my range (191-230) but I see that people don't use that much at all. Just curious.

As with my Androgel, you can't swim or bathe etc. for 5-6 hours...which is a b--- but if i have to do it for my androgel (for the moment) may as well do this too...

Sketch
 
Ended up getting Dermacrine.
It was hard finding a Source Naturals 10 or 5mg sublingual tablet for Preg (which I would have preferred) from the same source i was getting my other supplements from.

I was willing to pay the additional shipping cost. But after reading a bit more about Dermacrine and considering I won't use as much as its recommended I figure I'd give it a try and will monitor my labs.

I just ordered - Viron, Dermacrine, and Dymatize ISO...from TGB

Sketch
 
Sketch2000 said:
Ended up getting Dermacrine.
It was hard finding a Source Naturals 10 or 5mg sublingual tablet for Preg (which I would have preferred) from the same source i was getting my other supplements from.

I was willing to pay the additional shipping cost. But after reading a bit more about Dermacrine and considering I won't use as much as its recommended I figure I'd give it a try and will monitor my labs.

I just ordered - Viron, Dermacrine, and Dymatize ISO...from TGB

Sketch
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tmi i know, but many put a pump of dermacrine on scrotum[balls]. as with the og tubes of androgel don't put it on chest or stomach, inside of thighs seems to be good for cort control according to anecdotal feedback i have read, and as with any transdermal back of knees. but neck and shoulders are the best, imo.
 
thebigt said:
tmi i know, but many put a pump of dermacrine on scrotum[balls]. as with the og tubes of androgel don't put it on chest or stomach, inside of thighs seems to be good for cort control according to anecdotal feedback i have read, and as with any transdermal back of knees. but neck and shoulders are the best, imo.
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Thanks bro
 
Sketch2000 said:
Thanks bro
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you are welcome, i really stand by dermacrine, i feel it is a great supplement...i want you and everyone using it to get the most it has to offer. if you or anyone has a question concerning dermacrine post it up, or feel free to pm me!!!

btw-thank you for your purchase!!!
 
thebigt said:
tmi i know, but many put a pump of dermacrine on scrotum[balls]. as with the og tubes of androgel don't put it on chest or stomach, inside of thighs seems to be good for cort control according to anecdotal feedback i have read, and as with any transdermal back of knees. but neck and shoulders are the best, imo.
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I apply androgel to my shoulders upper arms and abdomen. Figured I'd start with one pump of demacrine and work up to what i feel comfortable with. Ideally I'd like to stay at the lowest dose possible. What affects are people getting from applying one pump to the scrotum?
 
thebigt said:
you are welcome, i really stand by dermacrine, i feel it is a great supplement...i want you and everyone using it to get the most it has to offer. if you or anyone has a question concerning dermacrine post it up, or feel free to pm me!!!

btw-thank you for your purchase!!!
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No worries. Thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread, educate me on these compounds, and help me make a decision.
 
thebigt said:
you are welcome, i really stand by dermacrine, i feel it is a great supplement...i want you and everyone using it to get the most it has to offer. if you or anyone has a question concerning dermacrine post it up, or feel free to pm me!!!

btw-thank you for your purchase!!!
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I agree
 
Sketch2000 said:
I apply androgel to my shoulders upper arms and abdomen. Figured I'd start with one pump of demacrine and work up to what i feel comfortable with. Ideally I'd like to stay at the lowest dose possible. What affects are people getting from applying one pump to the scrotum?
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from what i have read applying to scrotum increases dht more than applying it to other sites. for me a get more of a boost in libido when i apply it there versus when i don't...

skip the abdomen, there are much better places to apply, particularly since you are low dosing...i would apply the whole dose to shoulders and upper arms, and if you want try 1 pump on scrotum.
 
thebigt said:
from what i have read applying to scrotum increases dht more than applying it to other sites. for me a get more of a boost in libido when i apply it there versus when i don't...

skip the abdomen, there are much better places to apply, particularly since you are low dosing...i would apply the whole dose to shoulders and upper arms, and if you want try 1 pump on scrotum.
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Abdomen, upper arms and shoulders are for androgel. I could try limiting it to two areas instead of three but I'd still need shoulders and upper arms which would only leave the abdomen open which is really just for me wiping off whatever i have left on my hands and which you said is useless for the dermacrine. Perhaps start with one pump on back as directed followed by one on scrotum?
 
Sketch2000 said:
Whats your weight?
It states 4 pumps needed for someone within my range (191-230) but I see that people don't use that much at all. Just curious.

As with my Androgel, you can't swim or bathe etc. for 5-6 hours...which is a b--- but if i have to do it for my androgel (for the moment) may as well do this too...

Sketch
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I am not a big guy. I am 5'9'' 174 at 9% BF.
 
Sketch2000 said:
Abdomen, upper arms and shoulders are for androgel. I could try limiting it to two areas instead of three but I'd still need shoulders and upper arms which would only leave the abdomen open which is really just for me wiping off whatever i have left on my hands and which you said is useless for the dermacrine. Perhaps start with one pump on back as directed followed by one on scrotum?
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last sentence, one pump to back. 1 on scrotum...this
 
thebigt said:
last sentence, one pump to back. 1 on scrotum...this
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K. Sucks i have to wait to start. Dermacrine arrived two days ago (along with viron). I'm not having labs done until mid July to monitor the androgel so i don't want to begin prior and risk test being "too high" which will jeopardize my androgel. I'd also like a baseline with androgel so it's worth the wait. I was hoping to have the labs done already but my endo hasn't responded so I'm waiting on my Pcp.
 
Sketch2000 said:
K. Sucks i have to wait to start. Dermacrine arrived two days ago (along with viron). I'm not having labs done until mid July to monitor the androgel so i don't want to begin prior and risk test being "too high" which will jeopardize my androgel. I'd also like a baseline with androgel so it's worth the wait. I was hoping to have the labs done already but my endo hasn't responded so I'm waiting on my Pcp.
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Hope you enjoy dermacrine
 
Sketch2000 said:
K. Sucks i have to wait to start. Dermacrine arrived two days ago (along with viron). I'm not having labs done until mid July to monitor the androgel so i don't want to begin prior and risk test being "too high" which will jeopardize my androgel. I'd also like a baseline with androgel so it's worth the wait. I was hoping to have the labs done already but my endo hasn't responded so I'm waiting on my Pcp.
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i fully understand...i was on androgel at 2 packs and forgot to stop dermacrine/formasurge/endosurge before blood test...total test was a little over 1200, doc would have cut me down to 1/2 a pack if he could have. i was also using dmso before applying and sure that played a role!!!
 
I should get my DHEA levels checked sometime. I'm pretty sure they are low though, as I respond really well to Dermacrine.

Thanks for the support, and let us know how your experience is!
 
thebigt said:
i fully understand...i was on androgel at 2 packs and forgot to stop dermacrine/formasurge/endosurge before blood test...total test was a little over 1200, doc would have cut me down to 1/2 a pack if he could have. i was also using dmso before applying and sure that played a role!!!
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Yeah its better to wait and not jeopardize my androgel.
Sucks I have to wait tho...
 
Whats up guys.
I got my Labs done yesterday!
Pushed my doc office to get them done PRIOR to my appointment so we can review them AT the appointment (makes sense...lol)

Anyway, so I'm going to begin the Dermacrine on Monday. I have Viron (if any of you have seen my other thread) too. But don't want to start both at once in the event of any side effects (I wouldn't know which one caused them).

Anyway, does anyone know if Preg is allowed in Australia???

I may need to post a new thread about it.

From what I've found on the web - it can't be purchased but can be purchased and shipped.

On the "Customs list" - "DHEA and Molleculites" are banned substances. So would this put Preg out?

Anyone know or have experience with this?

Please let me know. My bro is overseas and I'd like to get him some.

The Customs list for Australia also has a list for "Aphrodisiacs" which includes Yohimbe etc.

So I think the Tonkgat Ali should be fine.

Sketch
 
thebigt said:
i agree with both.
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Hey big
I started today withone pump...like to start small.
Applied to chest. That's where the bottle had its application sites. I use the androgel on upper arms and stomach so this won't interfere. Just curious as we were talking about applying to the back. Want to make sure I'm getting it right.

Sketch
 
Sketch2000 said:
Hey big
I started today withone pump...like to start small.
Applied to chest. That's where the bottle had its application sites. I use the androgel on upper arms and stomach so this won't interfere. Just curious as we were talking about applying to the back. Want to make sure I'm getting it right.

Sketch
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certain areas causes different reactions, applying to chest you are more prone to estrogen conversion...if i were only using 1 pump it would be balls to the wall!!!
 
Sketch2000 said:
Okay so best sites are back and scrotum?
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since shoulders and neck are out, yes!!!


applying to scrotum causes a warming sensation so don't get freaked when it happens, i like it!!!
 
R1balla said:
Have you ever tried applying in the evening? Today I did before my workout and man, I was sweating in the gym sooo much more.
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i usually just do mornings to clear my head and get that natural energized feeling, but now i might have to try that, lol.
 
thebigt said:
i usually just do mornings to clear my head and get that natural energized feeling, but now i might have to try that, lol.
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it may be because I started the workout with power cleans...but dang man! my shirt was soaked and i never sweat in the gym.
 
R1balla said:
it may be because I started the workout with power cleans...but dang man! my shirt was soaked and i never sweat in the gym.
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lol...i sweat just thinking about it!!!
 
Does dhea make you lose your hair? I took it before when i was younger. Im afraid that i wont be as fortunate this time around.
 
Sprinterguy4 said:
Does dhea make you lose your hair? I took it before when i was younger. Im afraid that i wont be as fortunate this time around.
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the preg in dermacrine should prevent this, one of many reasons it was added.
 
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