bodyweight and supplements
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Jackedjack
Well-known member
Depends, what is the supplement and what's is your weight/ bf %
Superman_777
Member
Are you implying that you are the very overweight individual and are taking some sort of aid to lose fat? Provide more info
HIT4ME
Well-known member
Adamal, what is your goal with taking this product? Normally I would say to use your bodyweight for an amino acid or protein supplement, and not lean bodyweight, but like me you are over 40% bodyfat and obviously this may become a little excessive. Personally, for that product, I would probably trim it a little - I mean, taking 40 pills won't be fun or cost effective, and I'm not sure why you are taking an amino acid pill as it is. You could wind up taking a lot of pills for very little gain...
kbayne
Legend
I wouldn't even worry about supplementation right now personally. A well planned diet, workout regimen, and cardio need to be straightened out first and foremost.
Jackedjack
Well-known member
He hit it spot on, fix diet and worry more about cardio than weights as most likely you are pretty strong carrying 400 plus pounds. If anything supplement wise, I would look into an appetite suppresent or gda
HIT4ME
Well-known member
He said it better than me.
snagencyV2.0
Legend
everybody hitting on all cylinders in here I see..I agree
the first approach, especially when you are at that kind of bodyweight and bodyfat, is simply to learn correct eating and nutritional information and institute good habits to carry forward in your dietary endeavors..
then, because of the extent of your situation, you will need to be pretty aggressive to begin with -- I would strongly urge you to find a personal coach or nutritionist and perhaps a trainer to aid you in the beginning endeavors, at the very least
Beverly is a great company, with awesome products -- that said, you have absolutely no business even thinking about something like their aminos, and absolutely no practicality in taking them...simply a very large waste of funds for you, and will further compound your situation when you realize down the road that they are not the "magic pill" I think you view them as; they are more suitable for someone who is preparing for a bodybuilding show, and is trying to maintain their lean muscle mass when caloric ingestion is very low; or, for the guy who already has a decently lean physique, and is dedicated to gaining muscle thru manipulation of their dietary intake.....this unfortunately cannot be translated to your own situation, as your first step needs to be focused on reversal of metabolic damage and weight loss
one step at a time friend..
best to you going forward, and welcome to the forum
the first approach, especially when you are at that kind of bodyweight and bodyfat, is simply to learn correct eating and nutritional information and institute good habits to carry forward in your dietary endeavors..
then, because of the extent of your situation, you will need to be pretty aggressive to begin with -- I would strongly urge you to find a personal coach or nutritionist and perhaps a trainer to aid you in the beginning endeavors, at the very least
Beverly is a great company, with awesome products -- that said, you have absolutely no business even thinking about something like their aminos, and absolutely no practicality in taking them...simply a very large waste of funds for you, and will further compound your situation when you realize down the road that they are not the "magic pill" I think you view them as; they are more suitable for someone who is preparing for a bodybuilding show, and is trying to maintain their lean muscle mass when caloric ingestion is very low; or, for the guy who already has a decently lean physique, and is dedicated to gaining muscle thru manipulation of their dietary intake.....this unfortunately cannot be translated to your own situation, as your first step needs to be focused on reversal of metabolic damage and weight loss
one step at a time friend..
best to you going forward, and welcome to the forum
HIT4ME
Well-known member
Adamal, great job on the weight loss. I know it is hard and it can seem like an over-whelming challenge. Every little bit extra - like from supplements - is tempting. We are pretty blunt on this board, but honest, and I hope you aren't taking any of it as criticism. It is just direction.
Elliot Hulse has a Youtube channel and he once got a question about diet and he responded with something along the lines of the, keep it simple and do the following:
1. Stop drinking everything except water. Drink 2 gallons of water every day. NOTHING but water. (I don't necessarily agree 100% with this but it works and won't hurt)
2. Eat lean protein sources - chicken, eggs, lean beef, yogurt, etc. - Eat about 1-1.5 grams of protein/pound of body weight per day. That will be A LOT of protein for you - 400-600 grams/day.
3. Eat lots of green vegetables. In my case, broccoli and spinach are my go-to veggies. I'd stay away from corn, carrots, etc. You can eat all of the leafy green veggies that you want, can stuff down, etc.
4. Walk. Just start walking. Movement burns calories.
It sounds simple, but it works. For me, I eat 5-6 meals a day with about 30-40 grams of protein in each meal, which actually gives me less than 1 gram/pound of bodyweight, but with all that protein and then the loads of leafy green veggies I eat, I am actually full most of the time. I also find that eating more frequently actually makes me get "hungry" but in a different way. I know there is conflict over whether or not it speeds up metabolism to eat more frequently, but I believe it does, if only slightly. And even though I get hungry if I don't eat on schedule, I don't cheat because i am always only a couple hours away from another meal at most.
Also, I personally cook all my eggs and chicken in coconut oil and I think this helps. With the meat and veggies based diet, I am essentially low-carb too, and the type of fats in coconut oil help give me the right energy, IMO. And it makes the chicken tasty.
You can also add in other foods, I'm not saying you shouldn't eat anything except chicken and broccoli, etc. - but base your diet on those rules, read labels, learn about protein, fat, carbs and calories, and build from there. I think the big thing for me was eating more veggies - they fill you up and have almost no calories and tons of micro nutrients.
Elliot Hulse has a Youtube channel and he once got a question about diet and he responded with something along the lines of the, keep it simple and do the following:
1. Stop drinking everything except water. Drink 2 gallons of water every day. NOTHING but water. (I don't necessarily agree 100% with this but it works and won't hurt)
2. Eat lean protein sources - chicken, eggs, lean beef, yogurt, etc. - Eat about 1-1.5 grams of protein/pound of body weight per day. That will be A LOT of protein for you - 400-600 grams/day.
3. Eat lots of green vegetables. In my case, broccoli and spinach are my go-to veggies. I'd stay away from corn, carrots, etc. You can eat all of the leafy green veggies that you want, can stuff down, etc.
4. Walk. Just start walking. Movement burns calories.
It sounds simple, but it works. For me, I eat 5-6 meals a day with about 30-40 grams of protein in each meal, which actually gives me less than 1 gram/pound of bodyweight, but with all that protein and then the loads of leafy green veggies I eat, I am actually full most of the time. I also find that eating more frequently actually makes me get "hungry" but in a different way. I know there is conflict over whether or not it speeds up metabolism to eat more frequently, but I believe it does, if only slightly. And even though I get hungry if I don't eat on schedule, I don't cheat because i am always only a couple hours away from another meal at most.
Also, I personally cook all my eggs and chicken in coconut oil and I think this helps. With the meat and veggies based diet, I am essentially low-carb too, and the type of fats in coconut oil help give me the right energy, IMO. And it makes the chicken tasty.
You can also add in other foods, I'm not saying you shouldn't eat anything except chicken and broccoli, etc. - but base your diet on those rules, read labels, learn about protein, fat, carbs and calories, and build from there. I think the big thing for me was eating more veggies - they fill you up and have almost no calories and tons of micro nutrients.
Superman_777
Member
The only 'supplementation', so to speak, should be a quality multivitamim and possibly a few herbs, seeing that your body is in a unhealthy state right now.