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Dermacrine

Misfit28 said:
I'm running XI-KT right now. I've thought of running Dermacrine with it, but that's a lot of td application ;)

I just think XI-KT is better than the oral 11-oxo.
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PA used to have a td 11-oxo, i think...if PA thought td was a better option then i would bank on it since he was the original guy to bring 11oxo to the market!!!


never TOO much td application, i say do it!!!
 
thebigt said:
PA used to have a td 11-oxo, i think...if PA thought td was a better option then i would bank on it since he was the original guy to bring 11oxo to the market!!!


never TOO much td application, i say do it!!!
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I have one bottle of Dermacrine just sitting around staring at me everyday LOL ;)
 
Misfit28 said:
I think XI-KT by Iron Legion is better. No conversion necessary and it is transdermal. Not sure about running with Dermacrine, application site is the same :( I'm into my second week now, getting leaner but actually gained a bit of weight and strength is great on 2,800 calories. Vascularity everywhere too :)
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Not sure about the conversion of oral vs transdermal for adrenoandrosterone but I was already running two transdermals. Just added in furaza aswell since I have it around. Leaning up, I'm on a 500-600 deficit at 2300 kCals, leaning up and getting it done.

Eventually if you're applying to much you get diminishing returns, you won't be able to absorb it all.
 
EatMoar said:
Not sure about the conversion of oral vs transdermal for adrenoandrosterone but I was already running two transdermals. Just added in furaza aswell since I have it around. Leaning up, I'm on a 500-600 deficit at 2300 kCals, leaning up and getting it done.

Eventually if you're applying to much you get diminishing returns, you won't be able to absorb it all.
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lol...i agree, you can over do anything...just expressing my love for transdermals!!!
 
I can't wait to get on my Dermacrine! Hoping it comed in this week. Seriously considering getting some td form to play with too!!
 
enhanced said:
I can't wait to get on my Dermacrine! Hoping it comed in this week. Seriously considering getting some td form to play with too!!
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do it....dermacrine and formestane is a terrific combo, throw in some endosurge and you have all the bases covered!!!
 
thebigt said:
PA used to have a td 11-oxo, i think...if PA thought td was a better option then i would bank on it since he was the original guy to bring 11oxo to the market!!!


never TOO much td application, i say do it!!!
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He has a td product, Prototype 11-k, but is more expensive than IL's one
 
hey,what results should someone expect from dermacrine,4 pumps a day?is hair loss an issue to those who are prone?
 
PARASXOS said:
hey,what results should someone expect from dermacrine,4 pumps a day?is hair loss an issue to those who are prone?
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dhea is what could possibly cause hair loss in those who are prone...pregnenolone was added for the many benefits it gives, protection against hair loss is one of them!!!

the answer is nothing in life is a certainty, but for most people it shouldn't be an issue....like R1BALLA said, haven't heard of any issues.
 
thebigt said:
dhea is what could possibly cause hair loss in those who are prone...pregnenolone was added for the many benefits it gives, protection against hair loss is one of them!!! the answer is nothing in life is a certainty, but for most people it shouldn't be an issue....like R1BALLA said, haven't heard of any issues.
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Dht derivatives are more likely to cause hairless than pref/dhea as well.
 
EatMoar said:
Dht derivatives are more likely to cause hairless than pref/dhea as well.
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most definately...i've never heard of any issues with hairloss from dermacrine, and i follow it pretty closely!!!!
 
I've never heard of hairloss from preg or DHEA. If anything, you risk e2 levels going up with excess DHEA, but the amount that is in Dermacrine should not cause that. Preg and DHEA is very good things in the correct amounts.
 
kisaj said:
I've never heard of hairloss from preg or DHEA. If anything, you risk e2 levels going up with excess DHEA, but the amount that is in Dermacrine should not cause that. Preg and DHEA is very good things in the correct amounts.
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Not to mention the reveristol will control e2 or any AI for that matter
 
Just got mine in today!! Seriously considering starting mine tonight! Got a log going, so I'm going to check w/ mgmt. first.
 
R1balla said:
That's still high! How'd it treat you?
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Well I did get sick for about a week when I was on it, came back to the gym and started back with weights too heavy. Hurt myself, took another week off. Then when I went back the second time I was much more conservative with the starting weights again. However during this time I didn't lose much strength. I'm almost back to where I was already within one full week back. So it's pretty impressive as far as recovery goes compared to when not using it.
 
thebigt said:
PA used to have a td 11-oxo, i think...if PA thought td was a better option then i would bank on it since he was the original guy to bring 11oxo to the market!!!

never TOO much td application, i say do it!!!
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Agree! Transdemal 11-oxo is really a much better option.
 
T-Bone said:
Well I did get sick for about a week when I was on it, came back to the gym and started back with weights too heavy. Hurt myself, took another week off. Then when I went back the second time I was much more conservative with the starting weights again. However during this time I didn't lose much strength. I'm almost back to where I was already within one full week back. So it's pretty impressive as far as recovery goes compared to when not using it.
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I hate getting sick when taking something. Ruins everything
 
ELROCK said:
Agree! Transdemal 11-oxo is really a much better option.
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back in the day when bulk's were much easier to come by a lot of guys were making their own homebrew 11-oxo td.

really miss those days when quality bulks were easy to come by.
 
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