osta rx or research grade ostarine?

Mystere3 said:
Those are with S4, not ostarine. It's secondary to the m1 metabolite which isn't present in ostarine.
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That's what I thought but I've read some reviews saying they had vision problems which really scared me to use any SARM ever again. Maybe I'm just too paranoid about what I put in my body. I'm wonder that if something did happen to me and I told the doctors what I was taking that they would even know what to do or what it was.
 
T-Bone said:
That's what I thought but I've read some reviews saying they had vision problems which really scared me to use any SARM ever again. Maybe I'm just too paranoid about what I put in my body. I'm wonder that if something did happen to me and I told the doctors what I was taking that they would even know what to do or what it was.
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If it's a research chem it could very well be s4 they were taking.

I've taken ostarine for a good portion of the last 4 years and never had that side effect.
 
Mystere3 said:
If it's a research chem it could very well be s4 they were taking.

I've taken ostarine for a good portion of the last 4 years and never had that side effect.
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Do you take anything for elevated estrogen from the osta - or do you feel there's any validity to the claim that it may increase estro to some degree?
 
Jessep76 said:
Do you take anything for elevated estrogen from the osta - or do you feel there's any validity to the claim that it may increase estro to some degree?
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Well I have formestane as part of my pct but not bc of the osta. Generally it's not an issue.
 
jamesm11 said:
You mean the clinical studies that show it is suppressive at over 3mg? You have no proof your osta was real, they do. Ostarine is suppressive at dosages over 3mg, there's no debating that. If you want to be am idiot then that's fine with me.

The lack of knowledge in the anabolic section here reminds me why I don't use it anymore. Might be the worst forum for it. Tons of parroting and broscience.
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I agree 100% I keep seeing the same **** from the same handful of people, which really makes you wonder. Ostarine -or whatever most people think is ostarine that they are taking- has been shown to be suppressive and there is plenty of bloodwork online that demonstrates just that. And saying something is only "mildly" suppressive when it cuts your T in half from 800 to 400 and barely above normal is bull****. Suggesting to use a suppressive compound like that during pct is an even bigger pile of bull****. It doesn't make a bit of sense. The whole idea started from a particular site that was selling sarms and pushing them to a ridiculous level. Some of those guys showed up here spreading the same nonsense and a few were banned. For the few guys that claim they used a heavy dose and recovered during pct- good for them. For the rest of the world, it doesn't work that way and flies in the face of pretty much anything ever learned about doing a proper PCT. It's ****ty advice that you wouldn't have seen here 5 years ago or so. Maybe most people are taking fake ostarine. Maybe real ostarine isn't suppressive and a handful of guys have real ostarine. Who knows. But when you see plenty of bloodwork demonstrating that whatever people are taking that calls itself ostarine being shutdown, it doesn't make sense to run it through pct.
 
Nobody is making you take it.

I'm all for people making an informed decision. If they are afraid of not recovering they should absolutely not take it.

I on the other hand will start a cut on pct while losing bf% and keeping my muscle mass and strength with low dose ostarine.

Fwiw we've been using osta in pct since it came out a couple years ago. It's not a new thing.
 
I am going to use 10 mg osta in my pct. I researched it and found lugs with bloods showing no suppression at low doses and full recovery while using during pct. In fact I had a hard time finding any logs with bloods showing otherwise.
 
jarhead said:
I agree 100% I keep seeing the same **** from the same handful of people, which really makes you wonder. Ostarine -or whatever most people think is ostarine that they are taking- has been shown to be suppressive and there is plenty of bloodwork online that demonstrates just that. And saying something is only "mildly" suppressive when it cuts your T in half from 800 to 400 and barely above normal is bull****. Suggesting to use a suppressive compound like that during pct is an even bigger pile of bull****. It doesn't make a bit of sense. The whole idea started from a particular site that was selling sarms and pushing them to a ridiculous level. Some of those guys showed up here spreading the same nonsense and a few were banned. For the few guys that claim they used a heavy dose and recovered during pct- good for them. For the rest of the world, it doesn't work that way and flies in the face of pretty much anything ever learned about doing a proper PCT. It's ****ty advice that you wouldn't have seen here 5 years ago or so. Maybe most people are taking fake ostarine. Maybe real ostarine isn't suppressive and a handful of guys have real ostarine. Who knows. But when you see plenty of bloodwork demonstrating that whatever people are taking that calls itself ostarine being shutdown, it doesn't make sense to run it through pct.
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Thank you for this post. The facts should not be ignored. I actually read on a diff forum that his blood work did show suppression but he felt ok so he kept going. -_-
 
goodvibes said:
Thank you for this post. The facts should not be ignored. I actually read on a diff forum that his blood work did show suppression but he felt ok so he kept going. -_-
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I'm glad your getting all your info on forums, sounds reliable.
Ill tell people what I think, and then I expect them to do the thing most adults should have the common sense to do, real research.
 
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I've been using Ostarine for about a month now at 25mg/day. I just got my bloods back and my total T is over 1500. I thought Ostarine was undetectable as testosterone. My normal T is typically around 450-550 on TRT.
 
BBB said:
I've been using Ostarine for about a month now at 25mg/day. I just got my bloods back and my total T is over 1500. I thought Ostarine was undetectable as testosterone. My normal T is typically around 450-550 on TRT.
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How do you get 25mg a day?. Most caps I've seen were 10mg each. You're using research grade?
 
BBB said:
My thoughts as well
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I just started my Osta I got today. Could be the placebo effect but I'm feeling hotter then normal. Got a headache as many said Osta can do. Will keep up and let you all know how it goes.
 
BBB said:
I'm dropping the Ostarine. I will retest my T levels in few weeks.
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I'm subbed for that. I'm really interested.
 
I have one week left on an eight week run of ostabol and dermacrine. Went to doctor today for something unrelated. They ordered me to get bloodwork for cholesterol. Will it be skewed from what I'm using? Should I get it done now or wait til after my run? If so how long after should I wait?
 
muscle inc. said:
I have one week left on an eight week run of ostabol and dermacrine. Went to doctor today for something unrelated. They ordered me to get bloodwork for cholesterol. Will it be skewed from what I'm using? Should I get it done now or wait til after my run? If so how long after should I wait?
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I don't think it'll affect it too much, if abuthing your HDL might be a bit low, and he'll tell you to work out more.
 
muscle inc. said:
I have one week left on an eight week run of ostabol and dermacrine. Went to doctor today for something unrelated. They ordered me to get bloodwork for cholesterol. Will it be skewed from what I'm using? Should I get it done now or wait til after my run? If so how long after should I wait?
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My bloods came back normal on Osta. I get bloods done every few months and their were no noticeable changes.
 
BBB said:
I've been using Ostarine for about a month now at 25mg/day. I just got my bloods back and my total T is over 1500. I thought Ostarine was undetectable as testosterone. My normal T is typically around 450-550 on TRT.
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How does the Osta your taking you feel? Slight stength increase? Slight increase sense of well being? Slight recomping effect? Lubricanted joints?
 
Mystere3 said:
Problem is that the products on the market aren't the pure pharma grade drug.
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Not sure what you are saying here in response to the hormone chart. Who is saying Ostarine sold by supplement companies is low dosed/bunk? Have there been tests? And to what degree.
 
Jessep76 said:
Not sure what you are saying here in response to the hormone chart. Who is saying Ostarine sold by supplement companies is low dosed/bunk? Have there been tests? And to what degree.
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Well, I might have innocently stirred up that notion.

I knew the guy who managed the clinical trials @ GTX for Ostarine. GTX kinda took ownership of this product for research. No one else was in clinical application at the time. My friend mentioned the illegitimacy of most Ostarine "supplements", that it took them months to find a legit Ostarine supplier.

So u do the math. Supplement industry requires no testing before hitting the market and no one provides any sort of proof of the product or its purity.

I aint sayin Celtic isnt legit but I have to honestly tell u guys that GTX claims that 3mg/day was anabolic enough to replace TRT with no adverse sides effects and 9mg/day provided substantial anabolic activity. Seems most folks get TRT like results @ 20+ mg per day but also significant shutdown with it. I dunno, the two profiles dont add up. They are different it seems.
 
fueledpassion said:
Well, I might have innocently stirred up that notion.

I knew the guy who managed the clinical trials @ GTX for Ostarine. GTX kinda took ownership of this product for research. No one else was in clinical application at the time. My friend mentioned the illegitimacy of most Ostarine "supplements", that it took them months to find a legit Ostarine supplier.

So u do the math. Supplement industry requires no testing before hitting the market and no one provides any sort of proof of the product or its purity.

I aint sayin Celtic isnt legit but I have to honestly tell u guys that GTX claims that 3mg/day was anabolic enough to replace TRT with no adverse sides effects and 9mg/day provided substantial anabolic activity. Seems most folks get TRT like results @ 20+ mg per day but also significant shutdown with it. I dunno, the two profiles dont add up. They are different it seems.
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Seems like nobody is taking anything under 20mg unless you're a woman (reference to 2 cap a day iml reviews for women). Unless someone has testing to show purity, who knows.

Would be nice to know my O isn't spiked with S4....or Halo for that matter
 
Jessep76 said:
Seems like nobody is taking anything under 20mg unless you're a woman (reference to 2 cap a day iml reviews for women). Unless someone has testing to show purity, who knows.

Would be nice to know my O isn't spiked with S4....or Halo for that matter
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Well I'm taking 10mg ED during PCT. But would take 20mg if I wasn't in PCT.
 
Jessep76 said:
Not sure what you are saying here in response to the hormone chart. Who is saying Ostarine sold by supplement companies is low dosed/bunk? Have there been tests? And to what degree.
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It's not pharmaceutical grade, but neither are any other supplements though.
 
ELROCK said:
How does the Osta your taking you feel? Slight stength increase? Slight increase sense of well being? Slight recomping effect? Lubricanted joints?
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All of the above. Low E kills my libido and makes me lethargic.
 
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