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New DMZ cycle

Yodambomb said:
For sure and I don't think that 150-160 max over 90 is that rediculisly high and I've done many cycles before and been just fine . Was just wondering if test didn't raise it as much but it probably does .
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not sure but I would guess test would have the least impact on bp etc. seeing as it is a natural substance to the body and all others are foreign substances made by man. test should be tolerated alot better.
 
seanghetto said:
not sure but I would guess test would have the least impact on bp etc. seeing as it is a natural substance to the body and all others are foreign substances made by man. test should be tolerated alot better.
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The problem is that it's just hard to get a hold of is all . All the other necessities that go with it aren't tho ..
 
Yodambomb said:
The problem is that it's just hard to get a hold of is all . All the other necessities that go with it aren't tho ..
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im sure you see plenty of guys in the gym that look like they are on gear so its musnt be that hard to obtain. It's just that you need to search harder there or on line
 
seanghetto said:
im sure you see plenty of guys in the gym that look like they are on gear so its musnt be that hard to obtain. It's just that you need to search harder there or on line
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Yeah but I heard that it's easy to get arrested buying them online tho if you don't know the right ways to get em shipped
 
Mystere3 said:
Ideally your resting bp should be below 140. If you can't get there you should get real bp meds.
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yeah thats for someone not on a steroid cycle obviously. on cycle its obviously just due to the steroid and will return to normal after so offcourse you shouldnt go runnin out and getting put on meds.
 
seanghetto said:
yeah thats for someone not on a steroid cycle obviously. on cycle its obviously just due to the steroid and will return to normal after so offcourse you shouldnt go runnin out and getting put on meds.
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So do people have heart attacks very often on PH or what ?
 
seanghetto said:
yeah thats for someone not on a steroid cycle obviously. on cycle its obviously just due to the steroid and will return to normal after so offcourse you shouldnt go runnin out and getting put on meds.
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No I meant on cycle. You would benefit from on cycle bp control to prevent symptoms and headaches and worse problems.
 
Mystere3 said:
No I meant on cycle. You would benefit from on cycle bp control to prevent symptoms and headaches and worse problems.
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i'd just use something natural like hawthorn berry or something if bp is just due to the cycle
 
Mystere3 said:
No I meant on cycle. You would benefit from on cycle bp control to prevent symptoms and headaches and worse problems.
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So if the cycle support doesn't keep it under 140 or whatever you would really recommend getting doctor prescribed BP meds ? I don't think that they would do that if I said that I was using it for a cycle tho
 
maybe lower dose or different compund. I dont like the idea of counteracting the effect of a med with more meds.. thats just me though
 
Yodambomb said:
So if the cycle support doesn't keep it under 140 or whatever you would really recommend getting doctor prescribed BP meds ? I don't think that they would do that if I said that I was using it for a cycle tho
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Just go there and get it checked and say it's been high. No one is going to hesitate to give you meds for bp. Telmisartan 20 mg would be ideal.
 
Mystere3 said:
Just go there and get it checked and say it's been high. No one is going to hesitate to give you meds for bp. Telmisartan would be ideal.
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Gotcha just don't tell them that I'm on roids . Only prob is tab give been to the docs to do like liver testing and all the aboves so they'll think that something is up and especially when they see me hugge
 
Yodambomb said:
Gotcha just don't tell them that I'm on roids . Only prob is tab give been to the docs to do like liver testing and all the aboves so they'll think that something is up and especially when they see me hugge
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Doubt it'll be an issue.
 
dude relax the doctor cant do anything to you if u tell him ure on roids. he not gonna call the cops or anything lol. even they wouldnt do anything.
 
seanghetto said:
dude relax the doctor cant do anything to you if u tell him ure on roids. he not gonna call the cops or anything lol. even they wouldnt do anything.
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I know that but I would just wonder if they would do testing on me to see why my pressure is so high . I know that they can't get me in trouble but they could deny me the meds maybe if they found high levels if test or whatever
 
Yodambomb said:
I know that but I would just wonder if they would do testing on me to see why my pressure is so high . I know that they can't get me in trouble but they could deny me the meds maybe if they found high levels if test or whatever
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That and he would just tell me to get off them
 
Yodambomb said:
I know that but I would just wonder if they would do testing on me to see why my pressure is so high . I know that they can't get me in trouble but they could deny me the meds maybe if they found high levels if test or whatever
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Your test level would be low anyways. Just tell him you drink a bit.
 
Blood gets thicker when on steroids. This causes shortness of breath and high blood pressure. Its one of the main reasons why it aint safe to run supraphysiological levels of androgens year round.
 
jbryand101b said:
How about a sphygmomanometer and stethoscope? :p
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Prefer an automated bp cuff used on wrist. I think it's hard to take your own bp and wouldn't trust the vast majority of people to do it correctly. I retake bp all the time when I don't believe my MAs measurements.
 
Mystere3 said:
Prefer an automated bp cuff used on wrist. I think it's hard to take your own bp and wouldn't trust the vast majority of people to do it correctly. I retake bp all the time when I don't believe my MAs measurements.
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I went online and checked and only around 180 and up is considered dangerously high BP
 
The problem is that's resting bp and assumes you're not doing strenuous exercise.

You have to assume if your resting bp is in the 150-160s that it's much higher during strenuous exercise. Most of the time if you're young and otherwise healthy it's not an issue but extremely high bp raises your risk of stroke and other problems.
 
Mystere3 said:
The problem is that's resting bp and assumes you're not doing strenuous exercise. You have to assume if your resting bp is in the 150-160s that it's much higher during strenuous exercise. Most of the time if you're young and otherwise healthy it's not an issue but extremely high bp raises your risk of stroke and other problems.
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Yeah but I thought that everybody's BP is high during exercise
 
Mystere3 said:
Yes but it's relative. Your bp will be much higher on steroids, due to endothelial disregulation and potentially higher hematocrit.
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Idk I mean I was fine on the spawn but if you think that maybe that I would be better off with just some test or use a test base then maybe that might be a better option
 
I think you'll be fine on the dmz but stop trying to downplay the negative side effects of steroids. You're taking risks by running a cycle. You just need to determine if the benefits outweigh the risks for you.
 
jbryand101b said:
I'll keep my thoughts on high bp, health, steroids, and pre existing medical conditions to myself.
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I appreciate everyone's opinion , I just say that this cycle is no more intense than any other one that I've taken so I'm more than positive that I'm not gonna die lol
 
jbryand101b said:
Then why did you start this thread?
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To see if it was the PHs that do that to everyone or just me . But I already ordered the DMZ so I'm not about to ***** out lol but I should take that advice about getting a cuff and make sure to stay plenty hydrated and also stay on top of my supps . Also I will get a base BP level to see where I'm at before and during
 
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