dmz

permabulk

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im new to these forums. im looking for some feedback on dmz i have cycled real aas. ive done dbol and test e before and went ok. ive been researching dmz for months now and compared to dbol its stronger mg for mg and gains are maintainable. i have ran dbol only before yes i know stupid but it was my first gateway/cycle. i gained around 18pounds in 4 weeks on dbol i pct'd with nolva and clomid and creatine. i kept maybe 5lbs. ive heard nothing but good from dmz im eager to try anabolic technologies dmz as i know people who cycled it before. feedback is all im asking for, thanks
stats:
age 26
weight 221
height 6 '0
bf % 14
training years on and off in high school football and religiously 5 years.
diet 3500 calories clean
protien around 250g
 
Only cycle so far I've run with dmz was methadrol extreme. 4 weeks and was getting 30mg of dmz a day along with 20mg of msten and some amount of max-lmg. After PCT I gained about 15 pounds. Later in the summer I'm planning on 6 weeks of dmz 30/30/45/45/45-60/45-60 with 4 weeks of msten 20/20/20/20/0/0 and dermacrine throughout. REALLY looking forward to it. I'd highly recommend dmz
 
Thanks guys. I will check out the log. Ph's always bashed on I prefer them over "real gear" 8weeks 250mg test E only gained 21 lbs.
 
First 4 weeks I also ran dbol at 25mg ed. When I ran tren extreme I gained 18lbs in 4 weeks. So you'd think real gear would be better
 
Tren extreme I didn't run nolva as its non estrogenic and progesterone sides were only worried about I just ran clomid and about 12lbs kept. Or 11 along those lines. When I ran test and dbol I kept about the same.
 
permabulk said:
Tren extreme I didn't run nolva as its non estrogenic and progesterone sides were only worried about I just ran clomid and about 12lbs kept. Or 11 along those lines. When I ran test and dbol I kept about the same.
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Doesn't sound like you did a good job with either pct. If you're losing 1/3-1/2 of your gains you're doing something wrong.
 
Must've been caloric intake I bloated like a mf after test and dbol so I decided to cut 500cals or so off normal basis. I plan on running dmz by which company idk yet, but im still looking around a bit
 
No AI with them? I always run aromasin with test/dbol. 25 EOD is what I usually run with test/tren/eq/dbol.

I'd run lgi dmz, prolly 30 to start going up to 45.
 
Mystere3 said:
No AI with them? I always run aromasin with test/dbol. 25 EOD is what I usually run with test/tren/eq/dbol. I'd run lgi dmz, prolly 30 to start going up to 45.
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What's the truth on dbol and losing all your gains from it?

Poor diet, water weight etc ?
 
Mostly water; honestly I love dbol, one of my favorite compounds; but it's really mostly effective as a kicker for a well designed pin cycle.
 
Mystere3 said:
Mostly water; honestly I love dbol, one of my favorite compounds; but it's really mostly effective as a kicker for a well designed pin cycle.
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I was looking into it, maybe for a future run as a kicker but really didn't know the truth behind all of the myths I read about.

Assumed it would mostly be water, but it seems like a favorite for most pin cycles.
 
Lol im not prone to gyno. I always have arimidex on hand though. Dbol just got me extreme lethargy and waterweight associated with strength gain
 
and acNe too right? I didn't think much of it I was doing a ct Fletcher powerlifting diet lol. And what do u think of warrior labz super dmz?
 
Peppers said:
I was looking into it, maybe for a future run as a kicker but really didn't know the truth behind all of the myths I read about.

Assumed it would mostly be water, but it seems like a favorite for most pin cycles.
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The good thing about is it works really fast, faster than any compound I've used besides m1t.
 
hmm anabolic technologies is legit too I hear. I guess dmz is dmz like test is test. Debating on running dmz 30-45mg 4 weeks bridgeing onto max lmg 90mg 4 weeks.
 
50s high imo 4 weeks tops if u do 50. Honestly dbol really strong 20mg youl get gains 30s a good dose. Up your dose on milk thistle lol
 
I've seen people say 50, most like it at 30.
This is just for future reference as it just happened to be in the thread.

Either way, I think 4 weeks would be ideal assuming your gear would be kicking in around then.
 
I follow, I got some Cyp sitting around so I'll have to keep doing my homework and go from there.

Thanks for the input fellas.
 
Cyp's good man especially since you already have it haha. Since you've never done dbol i reccomend 10mg as soon as you wake and before workout so 20mg of dbol for 4 weeks.
 
Keep in mind everyone's different one person can take 20mg and get great results as one at 50 can too, but high chances of sides linger in the "above reccomended dose" have everything on hand bud
 
permabulk said:
Keep in mind everyone's different one person can take 20mg and get great results as one at 50 can too, but high chances of sides linger in the "above reccomended dose" have everything on hand bud
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For sure, id start at a lower dosage and weigh it out.

I always have letro, ralox, nolva, torem, clomid, aromasin, formeron, OTC AI"s etc etc I've learned my lesson on being un prepared.
 
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