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jbryand101b said:
Your opinion makes you look stupid and shows your lack of knowledge on the subject of aas. Broscience. I bet you criss cross your arms during cable flys too.
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Ah the expert that I've seen say you don't have to worry about estro rebound with letro. So are you saying your body doesn't create extra sometimes toxic and unnecsessary metabolites while the pro hormone is going through its conversion process? Silly me to think it might just be a little less stressful on the body to actually ingest the target hormone as opposed to taking a chemical that has to be broken down and metabolized to turn it into a useful compound. I mean after all you're not stressing your body out enough on cycle lets just add in those extra steps. Hell we are invincible after all right?
 
druller655321 said:
Ah the expert that I've seen say you don't have to worry about estro rebound with letro. So are you saying your body doesn't create extra sometimes toxic and unnecsessary metabolites while the pro hormone is going through its conversion process? Silly me to think it might just be a little less stressful on the body to actually ingest the target hormone as opposed to taking a chemical that has to be broken down and metabolized to turn it into a useful compound. I mean after all you're not stressing your body out enough on cycle lets just add in those extra steps. Hell we are invincible after all right?
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you will never find a quote of me saying there is no worry of estrogen rebound with any aromatase inhibitor.

and no, your body doesn't create extra sometimes toxic metabolites while converting a prohormone into said hormone. do you believe in the easter bunny too?

and I'm no expert, Patrick Arnold, William lewellyn, seth Roberts, these would be people I would say are experts in the field of androgenic anabolic agents.
 
druller655321 said:
Ah the expert that I've seen say you don't have to worry about estro rebound with letro. So are you saying your body doesn't create extra sometimes toxic and unnecsessary metabolites while the pro hormone is going through its conversion process? Silly me to think it might just be a little less stressful on the body to actually ingest the target hormone as opposed to taking a chemical that has to be broken down and metabolized to turn it into a useful compound. I mean after all you're not stressing your body out enough on cycle lets just add in those extra steps. Hell we are invincible after all right?
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This does not make any sense what metabolite of 4dhea is toxic? The conversion of 4dhea to any of its metabolites will not cause any toxic metabolites or stress please cite a single source for this nonsense?
 
jbryand101b said:
not sure what else you wrote in that jumble of words, but you will never find a quote of me saying there is no worry of estrogen rebound with any aromatase inhibitor.

and I'm no expert, Patrick Arnold, William lewellyn, seth Roberts, these would be people I would say are experts in the field of androgenic anabolic agents.
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I just want to know what he is talking about there is nothing toxic in the conversion of 4dhea to any of it's metabolites?
 
harbonah said:
I just want to know what he is talking about there is nothing toxic in the conversion of 4dhea to any of it's metabolites?
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it's because he doesn't understand metabolism, and human physiology, he's pulling shiit out of his ass because he's always heard pro hormones are dangerous and real gear is safe.

pro hormone = metabolite.

testosterone can metabolize aka convert into estrogen, dht, androstenediol, androstenedione, dhea, and a number of other metabolites. your body isn't going to sometimes make toxic deadly compounds from the metabolism of hormones.

what they mean to say those that dislike steroids sold as prohormones, sold as supplements,

is that one should be wary of compounds untested on humans.
but then, trenbolone, boldenone, an a number of popular "real gear" steroids are deemed unsafe for humans, but everyone loves some tren! even if they grow cyst all over their organs!
 
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