Article: Calories Don't Matter

The basic premise is hard to argue with, but several details are horribly wrong. In the first place, blaming nutritionists, doctors and dieticians for everyone's weight problems is ridiculous. Maybe their advice is good, maybe it's not. Even if it were perfect, it still wouldn't result in everyone becoming thin unless everyone took that advice, and we all know that'll never happen. Not to drag this out, but finally, the idea that food either leads to health or disease is also remarkably stupid. Food is food, it leads to sustenance. The positive or negative health effects are not the primary effect of food, they are at most marginal effects. Health and disease are complex subjects that involve a lot of different factors, of which food is only a small element. Lots of people with substandard diets are perfectly healthy, and lots of people with very good diets are tremendously unhealthy.
 
The points u argue about arent the central message though, which is stop believing that calories in calories out actually works to the benefit of increasing bodily performance, building muscle, burning fat and increasing overall health in the body. It does some of these things to a lesser degree, but it isnt the answer to our health problems.

It works for total weight gain/weight loss but provides no positive results for body composition.

I've been trying to tell this crowd for well over 2 years now that its dangerous to think "u can eat anything u want as long as its the right amount of calories". Nothing else in life works that way so why should it apply here?

A great example is how so many people, like myself, eat FAR more than the typical daily intake of calories yet maintain a much lighter and leaner body than most GYM GOER's do. Its all in the content, not the volume.
 
I agree that the subject of nutrition is nowhere near as straightforward as calories in calories out. In fact I question the whole concept of measuring food by "caloric content". It's just meaningless really. It doesn't help people lose weight for that reason too. If you tell someone, that cookie has 100 calories, it's meaningless. If you tell them though, 'eating that will make your ass get bigger', then that might mean something, which is kind of what the author was getting at I think, but he could have done a better job, without adding in what I am currently calling "food superstition".

One question I have that no-one seems to have an adequate answer to is nutrient timing. What's your opinion about that w.r.t. fat loss? I'm currently trying to lean out some.
 
compudog said:
I agree that the subject of nutrition is nowhere near as straightforward as calories in calories out. In fact I question the whole concept of measuring food by "caloric content". It's just meaningless really. It doesn't help people lose weight for that reason too. If you tell someone, that cookie has 100 calories, it's meaningless. If you tell them though, 'eating that will make your ass get bigger', then that might mean something, which is kind of what the author was getting at I think, but he could have done a better job, without adding in what I am currently calling "food superstition".

One question I have that no-one seems to have an adequate answer to is nutrient timing. What's your opinion about that w.r.t. fat loss? I'm currently trying to lean out some.
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Spell out w.r.t for me.

I apologize that the acronym isnt obvious to me.

As far as fat loss timing, I'd say a few things are key:

1) Liberating fatty acids
2) Using them

The moment we eat substantial amounts of carbs and fast protein sources, we turn anabolism on and fat burning OFF. So if I were to time nutrients in my own schedule, it'd look like this:

-Early morning fasted sprint intervals
-Break fast mid-morning with carbs and protein
-Eat high carb and protein all day
-Weight training late afternoon
-PWO would be proteins & fats w/ trace leafy green carbs.

Eventually, things can be taken up a notch and u can do another HIIT cardio session at night, take in fast and slow acting proteins thereafter and call it a night.

Remember, liberate fatty acids via:

Fasting (overnight is fine)
Fat burners
Caffeine
Leucine

Then burn them off via HIIT cardio, which also liberates MORE fatty acids. Fast for another 2 hours or so and then break fast.

If ur into PED's, this becomes a bit more sophisticated but also very effective in a short window of time.
 
fueledpassion said:
Spell out w.r.t for me. I apologize that the acronym isnt obvious to me. As far as fat loss timing, I'd say a few things are key: 1) Liberating fatty acids 2) Using them The moment we eat substantial amounts of carbs and fast protein sources, we turn anabolism on and fat burning OFF. So if I were to time nutrients in my own schedule, it'd look like this: -Early morning fasted sprint intervals -Break fast mid-morning with carbs and protein -Eat high carb and protein all day -Weight training late afternoon -PWO would be proteins & fats w/ trace leafy green carbs. Eventually, things can be taken up a notch and u can do another HIIT cardio session at night, take in fast and slow acting proteins thereafter and call it a night. Remember, liberate fatty acids via: Fasting (overnight is fine) Fat burners Caffeine Leucine Then burn them off via HIIT cardio, which also liberates MORE fatty acids. Fast for another 2 hours or so and then break fast. If ur into PED's, this becomes a bit more sophisticated but also very effective in a short window of time.
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I don't believe in that bulk/ cut stuff if your a ecto and can't hold fat, I'm a concretor and I'm lean as hell I can eat 4000 cal a day and be lean all day everyday so I never watch what I eat I always build muscle never hold fat
 
fueledpassion said:
Spell out w.r.t for me. I apologize that the acronym isnt obvious to me. As far as fat loss timing, I'd say a few things are key: 1) Liberating fatty acids 2) Using them The moment we eat substantial amounts of carbs and fast protein sources, we turn anabolism on and fat burning OFF. So if I were to time nutrients in my own schedule, it'd look like this: -Early morning fasted sprint intervals -Break fast mid-morning with carbs and protein -Eat high carb and protein all day -Weight training late afternoon -PWO would be proteins & fats w/ trace leafy green carbs. Eventually, things can be taken up a notch and u can do another HIIT cardio session at night, take in fast and slow acting proteins thereafter and call it a night. Remember, liberate fatty acids via: Fasting (overnight is fine) Fat burners Caffeine Leucine Then burn them off via HIIT cardio, which also liberates MORE fatty acids. Fast for another 2 hours or so and then break fast. If ur into PED's, this becomes a bit more sophisticated but also very effective in a short window of time.
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This is exactly what I am currently doing on my cut/recomp and it is working wonders. I have been dropping body fat and building muscle simultaneously for the past 2 months. Nutrient timing really changes the game.
 
compudog
"The positive or negative health effects are not the primary effect of food, they are at most marginal effects. Health and disease are complex subjects that involve a lot of different factors, of which food is only a small element."
Haha, what planet are you living on? What you take into your body has a bigger effect on your health than any other single thing, even bigger than exercise. I would rather be a sedentary healthy eater than a body builder that smokes and lives on fast food. (But why not have the best of both?) Seriously, I think the quote from the article applies to you, " common sense is not so common anymore".
 
The first law of thermodynamics isn't Newton's.
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