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mar1n93

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Ok so my friend and I are 21 and have been training since the age of 17. We stopped for a year because of school and work issues, but we have been back on the game for about 7 months and have been going to the gym 4-5 days per week.
We have seen pretty good results due to muscle memory and have gotten stronger.. currently taking whey protein, creatine, and multi vitamins... so now we have decided to take something new and so we looked at prohormones. Since this will be the 1st time ever to take a ph we wanted to get some advice in which one to choose as for a beginner. . And as well for pct what should we use..
We are trying to get big but stay lean as well if possible. .. so what could be a good ph for a first time user... thanks a lot for the help

Me: 5'6, 160lbs and not sure but I believe I'm 13%bf
Friend: 5'8 , 190lbs and around 17% bf
 
At 21 your hormones should still be plenty good to get you some gains. I'd hold off on PH's and stuff for a while still. I'd look at diet, training, and maybe some other natty supps to give you a boost.
 
mar1n93 said:
Ok so my friend and I are 21 and have been training since the age of 17. We stopped for a year because of school and work issues, but we have been back on the game for about 7 months and have been going to the gym 4-5 days per week.
We have seen pretty good results due to muscle memory and have gotten stronger.. currently taking whey protein, creatine, and multi vitamins... so now we have decided to take something new and so we looked at prohormones. Since this will be the 1st time ever to take a ph we wanted to get some advice in which one to choose as for a beginner. . And as well for pct what should we use..
We are trying to get big but stay lean as well if possible. .. so what could be a good ph for a first time user... thanks a lot for the help

Me: 5'6, 160lbs and not sure but I believe I'm 13%bf
Friend: 5'8 , 190lbs and around 17% bf
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Every question your going to have about a first cycle has been answered a million times. Do some research, google is your friend
 
I have done plenty of research but I thought I could get more advice on this forums since people have a lot more experience in using phs...
 
mar1n93 said:
I have done plenty of research but I thought I could get more advice on this forums since people have a lot more experience in using phs...
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Most people research cycles for 6 months to a year before doing them. There is a lot that can go wrong and you can't assume "that won't happen to me", you need to know how to deal with issues and what to expect. You need to plan out your routine, meals, PCT, etc... Again at 21 I honestly think you can do just fine for a few years without anything.
 
I was looking for a Non-methylated ph so that it won't go hard on the liver.. the one that really caught my attention was 1,4 AD BOLD, but I just can't find it for sale anywhere...
 
mar1n93 said:
I was looking for a Non-methylated ph so that it won't go hard on the liver.. the one that really caught my attention was 1,4 AD BOLD, but I just can't find it for sale anywhere...
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Get a cycle layout so we can give you advice. On cycle, post cycle
 
I really had in mind this one, but I can't find this product :(
Week 1-2:* Pre-load Cycle Support or Life Support @ Bottle Recommended dosages.
Week 2:* Cycle Support or Life Support | BOLD 600mg
Week 3-10:* Cycle/Life Support | BOLD 800mg
Week 10-14:* Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 10mg | Test Booster (i.e Activate Xtreme/T-Bol etc).
 
mar1n93 said:
I really had in mind this one, but I can't find this product :(
Week 1-2:* Pre-load Cycle Support or Life Support @ Bottle Recommended dosages.
Week 2:* Cycle Support or Life Support | BOLD 600mg
Week 3-10:* Cycle/Life Support | BOLD 800mg
Week 10-14:* Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 10mg | Test Booster (i.e Activate Xtreme/T-Bol etc).
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Looks good, nolvadex go 20/20/10/10. Add daa to pct if money isn't an issue ($15). Are you not wanting to take hdrol or epi due to their impact on the liver? I thought bold was banned
 
I did have epi and halo in mind as well but most reviews and peoples comments said it was best for cutting so is jot really what I want... and by the way, do you know a place where I could get this product? I really can't find it anywhere... or a good clone I suppose
 
mar1n93 said:
I really had in mind this one, but I can't find this product :(
Week 1-2:* Pre-load Cycle Support or Life Support @ Bottle Recommended dosages.
Week 2:* Cycle Support or Life Support | BOLD 600mg
Week 3-10:* Cycle/Life Support | BOLD 800mg
Week 10-14:* Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 10mg | Test Booster (i.e Activate Xtreme/T-Bol etc).
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Bold is just as illegal as AAS. PH's, depending on how u interpret a law, at least has a loop hole since many of them are not explicitly listed as a controlled or banned substance.

Bold on the other hand has been on that banned list for quite some time. Its right up there with SD, Trenbolone, Test, EQ, Deca & Dbol.

If ur goin that route, get the real Boldenone Undec.

Otherwise, keep studying until u feel confident that YOU know what ur doin. Dont run a cycle on someone else's confidence. That makes u intellectually weaker and dependent, neither of which falls in line with our Learn Teach Lead motto, or whatever it is lol.
 
mar1n93 said:
I did have epi and halo in mind as well but most reviews and peoples comments said it was best for cutting so is jot really what I want... and by the way, do you know a place where I could get this product? I really can't find it anywhere... or a good clone I suppose
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Diet is what really dictates if its cutting or bulking. And no, you can run a great bulk with halo (I put on 12ish lbs). I cant speak for epi but from what I've seen halo is better for bulking
 
For that same reason of alot being banned or controlled I asked what would be a good ph for 1st time cycle. . Since bold would be hard to get what could be another one I could use in its place..
 
stann123 said:
Diet is what really dictates if its cutting or bulking. And no, you can run a great bulk with halo (I put on 12ish lbs). I cant speak for epi but from what I've seen halo is better for bulking
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Yes, by a long shot I think.

There is a percentage of Epi users that pack on good poundage but most people use it as a cutter or recomp. Halo is best at bulking with some "leaning out" simultaneously if done perfectly.

OP, if ur gonna run something, just make it either:

H-drol @ 5 weeks. 50-75mg/day.

Or

Dienolone/Trest or Dienolone/Stano.

Either one will give you a few lbs of mass. The true knowledge and success isnt in the compounds used but the know-how of manipulating ur body to get it to grow. Also, handling PCT and taking good care of ur organs and cholesterol is something else many overlook now but may regret later.

Find supps that:

Prevent estrogen conversion
Increase HDL/lower LDL
Lower blood pressure
Reduce testicular shut down
Protects liver and recovers it quickly
 
Correct me if im wrong but isn't halo methylated? If it is, how would I have to run it for the 1st time... and what should my pct look like? If you could please name top brands I would truly appreciate it. ..
 
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