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I Dont Lift

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As you all know celtic labs has all their new **** out. I want to run the celtitren and the trest (im pretty sure its a good test base, im open to other suggestions for good test base) and something else. Im not a big fan of epi, ive never done it, but from what ive read it can dry joints out, i dont want to deal with that. So i was thinking like clostebol, celtic dianodrol, or protobol. Im ~200lbs atm. trying to lose fat/gain strength, but keep alot of the muscle mass i have. Mainly just trying to lose stubborn torso fat and ggain some back deffinition. Any kind of reply helps

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Thanks!
 
Just pony up and do epi tren and trest. The dry effect varies from person to person. And to be honest, I'd suspect that most people that actually bich and moan about that just have joint pain from bad form in the first place. Epistane just made it worse because they were on steroids and pushed it harder. I never experienced any dry joints from my epistane cycle

In b4 Olympus reps get here
 
Gotcha, is it possible to run the trest and tren with a mass builder like msten or closte? or would i be better just stacking with something that is a fat burner and strength builder as well instead of mix matching
 
You don't want to do trest and tren at the same time. Both 19-nor compounds. Gohardorgohome has some good info on why you don't want to run this. Just pick tren or trest to run with epi.
 
yea i want to run the tren hands down. What one you think would be better test base? the trest or epi? what one for better results as well? Sorry trying to get as much info as i can.
 
I Dont Lift said:
yea i want to run the tren hands down. What one you think would be better test base? the trest or epi? what one for better results as well? Sorry trying to get as much info as i can.
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Epi is NOT a test base. Here's what I would do
Epi
40/40/40//40/40/50
Tren
60/60/90/90/90/120 or lower if you want
Stano
800/800/800/800/1000/1000
Or dermacrin- you don't need a test base. But either of these would work.
I'm just doing epi tren for my cut this year.

You need something for prolactin because of the tren. It can cause gyno. The best OTC anti prolactin is inhibit-p. it's also very affordable.
Most caber is fake and people always complain about sides from prami so inhibit p is really the safest bet IMO.
Also for pct you should have a serm like nolva ran at 20/20/10/10 and I'd also pick up some reduce Xt and some daa. This will be a good cycle.
 
OnionKnight said:
Just pony up and do epi tren and trest. The dry effect varies from person to person. And to be honest, I'd suspect that most people that actually bich and moan about that just have joint pain from bad form in the first place. Epistane just made it worse because they were on steroids and pushed it harder. I never experienced any dry joints from my epistane cycle

In b4 Olympus reps get here
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You rang?

:)

Epi is great!!!
 
that sounds like alot lol, 3 things at once? ive never done a stack before, ive always just ran ultra or mecha. what kind of ggains am i looking at in yalls opinion. i know it depends cause every one if different. but on average am i looking at strength like ultra and massive fat loss with strict diet and cardio? any muscle mass?
 
I Dont Lift said:
that sounds like alot lol, 3 things at once? ive never done a stack before, ive always just ran ultra or mecha. what kind of ggains am i looking at in yalls opinion. i know it depends cause every one if different. but on average am i looking at strength like ultra and massive fat loss with strict diet and cardio? any muscle mass?
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Well that depends how you look at it. Essentially, you'd just be stacking epi and tren. Low dosing stano won't do anything except help with lethargy.

Not like you're stacking several methyls/dimethyls. It's one methyl, one nonmethyl, and one test base. Probly the standard simplicity of stacks
 
OnionKnight said:
Well that depends how you look at it. Essentially, you'd just be stacking epi and tren. Low dosing stano won't do anything except help with lethargy.

Not like you're stacking several methyls/dimethyls. It's one methyl, one nonmethyl, and one test base. Probly the standard simplicity of stacks
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^agree
 
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