1st cycle and addiction

Ephedraboy

Ephedraboy

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Everyone 's saying that after your 1 st cycle , you can't stop doing other cycles , but who did only 1? and how do you feel?
Are you feeling that's it's useless going to the gym cause you won't make more gain / just trying to keep the Cycle's gain?

People who did a lot of cycles , do you always change the PH/AAS? or for exemple , do you take EPi for 6 week , then 3 months later again EPI ? or it's not as usefull

Thanks for your time :)
 
I usually change. But the heavy hitters are always repeats... Celtic One (M1A), Superdrol (when it was legal), Celtic Sten (Methylsten)...

Always seems to go back to the topical dienazone from iron legion as well (used to be called trenazone, active hormone is called dienolone). However, I don't know if I'd cycle without trestolone anymore. The energy/libido/aggression from it can't be beaten compared to the terrible feeling some prohormones can give after 3+ weeks.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
I usually change. But the heavy hitters are always repeats... Celtic One (M1A), Superdrol (when it was legal), Celtic Sten (Methylsten)...

Always seems to go back to the topical dienazone from iron legion as well (used to be called trenazone, active hormone is called dienolone). However, I don't know if I'd cycle without trestolone anymore. The energy/libido/aggression from it can't be beaten compared to the terrible feeling some prohormones can give after 3+ weeks.
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nice :)
Well , i never used any PH/AAS etc , the best thing i used(using atm) is dermacrine.
I bought Epistane , for my 1st cycle , i really want to do it , but still thinking about what some people told me , that at 21 it's not worth etc.
Heard that it was a mild hormone , and that i won't have any bad side effects , or have a low % of getting any of it.
Would you tell me to wait ? or it's not that risky to use it at my age? ( i have PCT/SERM already too)
 
Ephedraboy said:
nice :)
Well , i never used any PH/AAS etc , the best thing i used(using atm) is dermacrine.
I bought Epistane , for my 1st cycle , i really want to do it , but still thinking about what some people told me , that at 21 it's not worth etc.
Heard that it was a mild hormone , and that i won't have any bad side effects , or have a low % of getting any of it.
Would you tell me to wait ? or it's not that risky to use it at my age? ( i have PCT/SERM already too)
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Epistane was my first and I was younger than 21. No sides to speak of. Toward the beginning of week 4 (I only ran it for 4 weeks) I started to see a drop off in libido and energy levels. But they came back almost instantly with PCT.

As for the age question, only you can decide if you take the epistane or not. People make a deal about it, but if you're smart and don't run it too long and have your PCT lined up, you should be fine.
 
Ephedraboy said:
nice :)
Well , i never used any PH/AAS etc , the best thing i used(using atm) is dermacrine.
I bought Epistane , for my 1st cycle , i really want to do it , but still thinking about what some people told me , that at 21 it's not worth etc.
Heard that it was a mild hormone , and that i won't have any bad side effects , or have a low % of getting any of it.
Would you tell me to wait ? or it's not that risky to use it at my age? ( i have PCT/SERM already too)
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imo theres always a risk regardless of age
 
stann123 said:
imo theres always a risk regardless of age
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Yep. People just recommend that at a younger age, someone should rely upon their youth/naturally high hormone levels to build muscle. That's the main argument against using at an early age.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Yep. People just recommend that at a younger age, someone should rely upon their youth/naturally high hormone levels to build muscle. That's the main argument against using at an early age.
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I don't blame people telling teens to wait, especially when I see "been lifting for 6 months and hit a plateau and want to run....." But ya agree with what you said
 
lol I have 2 weeks left in my first cycle (mechabol) and I'm already planning out my next. Probably just gonna start pinning with test e

Once you realize how easy and fast gains come enhanced it's hard to not want to do it forever
 
osubucks said:
lol I have 2 weeks left in my first cycle (mechabol) and I'm already planning out my next. Probably just gonna start pinning with test e

Once you realize how easy and fast gains come enhanced it's hard to not want to do it forever
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howd your cycle go? ive been looking into mecha
 
stann123 said:
howd your cycle go? ive been looking into mecha
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I can comment on mecha. It's one of the best designers out there if you can dose it high enough. 100mg+ is seriously amazing. I ran it as high as 200mg and never saw any sides, just increased effects.Mechabol is discontinued afaik, but you could try Celtibol from Celtic Labs. 60 caps x 25mg. 2-3 bottles would be a solid cycle.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
I can comment on mecha. It's one of the best designers out there if you can dose it high enough. 100mg+ is seriously amazing. I ran it as high as 200mg and never saw any sides, just increased effects.Mechabol is discontinued afaik, but you could try Celtibol from Celtic Labs. 60 caps x 25mg. 2-3 bottles would be a solid cycle.
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Sounds great, I know a place that still carries LGIs mecha. Do you know the reasoning as to why you dose mecha higher then pmag tho?
 
Now I'm wondering if I should grab another bottle, I have 2 @ 90 caps which would run me 6 weeks @ 100/day. At 230lbs idk if 100 will do me justice.
 
I think 100 would be fine. I'd try that and if you feel like it's not doing much by week 2-3 get another one.
 
Yea, sounds like a plan. Ill play it out, got a few months before I'll run again, it's gunna be the Mecha or Epi so we'll see.
 
That's my thought on it. I just have both on hand, but I'm definitely leaning toward the Mecha. Not sure if I should just run it solo with the formeron or stack with something. I have a few bottles of Stano as we'll.
 
Mecha stano would be good, or furaza, 11x, etc. iirc you had some issues with gyno right? I'd prolly stay away from 19 nors like tren, trest, etc.

If you want to stack it to get more mass do mecha 100, stano 1000, hexadrone 200.
 
Yea, the gyno is 99% gone now. I'm just running the letro out for another week an then I'll continue the Ralox for another 2 weeks to be sure. Was gunna add in the formeron just to try it out and run it past the ralox. Get an idea of how my body reacts to it before I start another cycle.

I was trying to figure out where the gyno came from. My last run was a 19nor stack and I ran Nolva after it, also didn't dose my AI long in PCT, maybe a week. I wasn't happy with the run so cut it short just shy of 4 weeks. I think that added to the issue and then on this cycle, it flared up the gyno.
 
Mystere3 said:
Mecha stano would be good, or furaza, 11x, etc. iirc you had some issues with gyno right? I'd prolly stay away from 19 nors like tren, trest, etc. If you want to stack it to get more mass do mecha 100, stano 1000, hexadrone 200.
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Hexadrone is good option. I wanna drop some bf% first and see how this plays out. Keep doing my homework so I can get the most out of these runs with no issues.
 
Mech is like hdrol but kicks in faster. They have similar potency; I think you can run mecha higher w/o much in the way of sides. Hexadrone is like a much weaker non-methyl hdrol in terms of effects, gotta run it really high 200-300 tho.
 
Mystere3 said:
Mech is like hdrol but kicks in faster. They have similar potency; I think you can run mecha higher w/o much in the way of sides. Hexadrone is like a much weaker non-methyl hdrol in terms of effects, gotta run it really high 200-300 tho.
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Would you run mech for 6 weeks then? Or use it for 4 and bridge into something else?
 
Mystere3 said:
Mech is like hdrol but kicks in faster. They have similar potency; I think you can run mecha higher w/o much in the way of sides. Hexadrone is like a much weaker non-methyl hdrol in terms of effects, gotta run it really high 200-300 tho.
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That's what I liked about Mecha from what I've read. Kicks in fast, low sides and decent size gains. Hexadrone, I just recently started reading up on.
 
6 weeks for mecha.

Shredded labs hexadrone is the best. Island supps has it on sale, check their forum on here for info.
 
stann123 said:
Sounds great, I know a place that still carries LGIs mecha. Do you know the reasoning as to why you dose mecha higher then pmag tho?
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I never ran Pmag, but I believe Pmag exerts some effects before it converts to the target compound in mechabol/celtibol. I see 75-100mg in pmag as optimal... mechabol/celtibol people do run around 100mg, but I prefer it at 125mg+.
Shaun235 said:
Now I'm wondering if I should grab another bottle, I have 2 @ 90 caps which would run me 6 weeks @ 100/day. At 230lbs idk if 100 will do me justice.
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Grab another. I was ~220 at 5'10" and 150mg was really great.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Yep. People just recommend that at a younger age, someone should rely upon their youth/naturally high hormone levels to build muscle. That's the main argument against using at an early age.
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The other argument is that if your epiphyseal plates (growth plates) are not fully closed or fused yet (it is possible even at 21) you risk the potential to accelerate their closure and potentially stunt you growth potential.
 
I would say wait. You can still make gains after you do a cycle but it becomes harder, or so it seems, because in the back of your head you're comparing your recent gains to your on gains.

If you do decide to run it(not a huge deal, you're 21 and can make your own choices) just make sure you have everything on hand before you start-- cycle support, pct, enough to epi for your entire cycle. Plan it at all out and follow through with it.
 
Ephedraboy said:
Really hope i won't get liver damage with epistane , don't want to be on T replacement all my life
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Those are pretty unrelated. And unless you have a pre-existing condition, you shouldn't need to worry.
 
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