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Jim's Training to Become a Human Tank!

That looks pretty freaking successful.


Your pain threshold and ability to not vomit with reps-priceless

Edit: everything looked smooth in that last video too
 
rob112 said:
That looks pretty freaking successful.


Your pain threshold and ability to not vomit with reps-priceless

Edit: everything looked smooth in that last video too
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I rarely vomit really, except for that 315 x 12 sumo pull I did a few months ago, that made me vomit.


I'm apparently much more likely to pass out than I am to vomit.
 
Events:



Arm Over Arm Pull: 1500 (Chevy) x 20M, 1500 x 30M, 1500 x 20M

These were easy, probably should have used two trucks lol. Haven't done these in a while and they are always fun to do.

Sled Pulls: 5 Plates x 40M, 5 Plates x 60M

This was also too easy for what I had planned so it really just turned into sprints because I didn't want to haul around any more plates lol.


Stones: 235 x 47", 235 x 52" x 6

The stones I have on video, so I'll post that up when I get it uploaded.
 
I thought it was a suicide mission when I saw the clean shaved face...but you pulled it out!
 
rob112 said:
I thought it was a suicide mission when I saw the clean shaved face...but you pulled it out!
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Ahahahahahaha Rob wins the internet today! Thanks everyone else for playing, but Bigshot wins the big teddy bear.
 
OK guys, got a question for you. herderdude Sean1322 rob112 NomZ Rodja


The competition is now 3 weeks away, I'm scheduled to deload this coming week and then I would have 1 week of training before I deload again for the competition. What I'm thinking is that I will skip this week deload, do the pre competition deload, and then come back and do the 5's wave from the beginning again.

What would you all do?



Also, random note. I'm considering putting my wife through trade school in the medical field so that she can make the big bucks and I can just train and do nothing else lol. I'm serious too.

I want to grow my hair and beard out like this when/if that happens.

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I would probably set it up the way you plan on doing it. Maybe do a little bit of peaking for it, too? I have a hypothesis one flaw that may have lead to Brandon Lilly's injury is that he wasn't peaked for his meet. He didn't have the heavy weight on his body and didn't have the feel for those weights beforehand. I think 3-4 weeks is enough time to ramp up the weights so that you get a feel for what's coming.
 
I'd skip the deload and wait for the pre-meet deload.

herderdude said:
I would probably set it up the way you plan on doing it. Maybe do a little bit of peaking for it, too? I have a hypothesis one flaw that may have lead to Brandon Lilly's injury is that he wasn't peaked for his meet. He didn't have the heavy weight on his body and didn't have the feel for those weights beforehand. I think 3-4 weeks is enough time to ramp up the weights so that you get a feel for what's coming.
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Or he competes very often/pre-existing stress fracture/drug use/no knee wraps.
 
Deload before your meet only of course. I like what you suggested.
 
Two deloads in that period of time is unnecessary unless you're dealing with some sort of extraneous circumstances.
 
DL + Front Squat Accumulation, 5's Wave


DL: 305 x 5 x 5 (hook grip, dead stop), 305 x 15 (straps, TNG)

Front Squat: 195 x 5, 230 x 5, 265 x 8

Rev. Hyper: 100 x 15 x 3

a1. Lunge: BW x 16 x 3
a2. Machine Row: 120 x 15 (NG), 140 x 15 (WG), 140 x 15 (NG)

Having some discomfort in the right side of my lower back. Feels like tightness in the piriformis again, not much of an issue when walking around but it's not comfortable to bend over lol. I'm gonna stretch it out some more and see how it feels tomorrow. It happened during the last rep of the front squats, I'm putting them on my CPU to look at it with a wider screen, but didn't see anything off when looking at it on the phone.
 
jimbuick said:
I only bowl well when the oil patterns are a certain way, I bowl with no thumb because I don't like the way my ball reacts using my thumb.

So if the lanes are real dry I won't hit it except for on the Brooklyn side no matter how I throw it.

But recently they got a new machine that lays the oil down better so I can typically get it rolling pretty good.
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Whenever you need a bowling lesson just let me know. I was pretty good :) not joking
 
So as far as yesterday, had some awkward foot placement on those front squats. Heels a little too close, toes pointed a little more out than I want.


Not sure what happened yesterday as far as the pain went. But I isolated it to the upper glute region, deep in the muscle. I'm thinking it might be the SIJ, it's feeling a lot better today, I took some Ibuprofen last night and iced/heated it some. I'm gonna continue to do some stretching and stuff today, and will probably try to do some MFR on it to see if I can't get it feeling better. Not very much stiffness today though, and I can bend over without a ton of pain, which is good.

Hopefully, it's not too serious.
 
Be careful if it's the SI.

Take a lacrosse ball to that glute med, piriformis, and QL.
 
Had some stiffness today when I woke up. Nothing too bad, went to the gym and rolled out some (all of the spots NomZ mentioned specifically) and it felt pretty good. Decided to go ahead and see what I could do, didn't have any pain throughout the workout at all. Made an appointment with a chiro on Friday, so even if it feels better by then I'm gonna go ahead and go to the chiro.



Log Press Accumulation Phase 5's Wave

Axle From Rack (didn't want to push heavy weight in that hyperextended position): 135 x 5 (strict), 155 x 5 (push press), 175 x 5 (push press), 185 x 4 (push press)

No pain at all with these.

Log C+P (this is where I was trying to see if I would have issues): 130 x 5 x 5 (strict), 130 x 10 (push press)

No pain, even in the clean. The 130 x 10 was easy, and I could have done ~5 more, but decided not to press my luck.

a1. Dead Hang Pull-Up: BW x 8, BW x 5, BW x 4
a2. Rope Pushdown: 40 x 8 x 3

b1. Band Pullapart: Red x 25 x 2
b2. Machine Row: 120 x 15 x 2

CG Pushup: BW x 30

Still have some stiffness, specifically when I go to bend over. It isn't incredibly painful, but it certainly isn't comfortable. So far so good though, didn't have any issues with anything I did today, so hopefully it'll work itself out in the next couple of days (and if it doesn't I'm hoping the chiro can help me out, I've never been to one so I'm not sure what to expect really).
 
Please please please bench heavy one of these days. It's bothering us to not know how much you bench anymore.

Love,
Your buddies at AM
 
Glad to hear it helped, keep tearing it up and stretching those fibers out.
 
herderdude said:
Please please please bench heavy one of these days. It's bothering us to not know how much you bench anymore.

Love,
Your buddies at AM
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This.

I'm watching your OHP fawker...after the comp I'd better start working on mine lest you overtake me like you've done with front squats.
 
Saw the chiro today, his analysis was about the same as mine. Strained something in the SIJ which led the glute and spinal erectors to spasm (which is what caused most of the pain). He did a lot of crap, and I left feeling a lot better. Some of the stuff he did I had already been doing, some of it I hadn't. It isn't 100% but it is much better. He gave me some exercises to do to help it (again, some I've already been doing, some I haven't). So it's looking pretty good on that front.



CG Bench Accumulation 5's


Bench Press (comp style): 225 x 1, 245 x 1, 265 x 1 (PR), 275 x F

Went ahead and worked to a heavy bench before starting, because of some whiners. Hit an easy PR, 275 just wasn't there (and my butt lifted :eek: ). Technique was a little rusty (it's been a while), but it felt good. Working on a different setup style than I used to do, and I liked it today, I just need to dial in the way I set my feet.


CG Bench: 170 x 5 x 5, 170 x 15

Axle Inc. Bench: 110 x 5, 130 x 5, 150 x 8

a1. Inc. DB Fly: 35 x 10 x 2
a2. 1 Arm DB OHP: 45 x 8 x 2

b1. DB Curls: 25 x 10, 30 x 10 x 2
b2. WG Partial Bench Press: 135 x 15, 155 x 14, 135 x 15

Rear Delt Pullapart: Red x 25 x 3

Facepull: 40 x 20 x 2


Overall I felt pretty good, spent a decent amount of time before the workout working on the SIJ to make sure it gets better before TSM. Everything else felt alright, had a little discomfort with the first superset (left shoulder), so I opted out of doing a 3rd set.


Video might come tomorrow, or later this weekend. I'm working 10P-6A today and tomorrow, so we'll see how long I sleep before I promise anything.
 
Wheeee bench PR. Be on the lookout, now that my whining got the desired effect, you can expect more whining in the future. Just ask the fathers in the thread.
 
Nice PR James! I knew all that pressing had to help your competition bench strength. Congrats
 
Will probably just be training by feel this week, I don't want to do anything that will hurt that SIJ.

Also, my TPB came in today, and I ordered a SSB yesterday (EFS no shipping sale :D)

Next will be a squat rack (after my tax return comes in). And I should be making a set of stones pretty soon.



Called in today from work, my ceiling was falling through in the front room. So I just finished attaching that to the beams and put on the first layer of drywall. Will probably do a second layer tonight (if its dry).
 
No pain while working out today, but it was still a pretty ****ty workout.



Got the new TPB in so I did some pulling with it!


DL: 365 x 1 (hook grip), 405 x F (straps, dafuq), 385 x 1 (straps, ramp, redlight)

Ummm, dafuq? I wasn't expecting to pull a PR today, but to have 405 be unmovable WITH straps is ridiculous. There wasn't any pain or anything, I just couldn't move it. Hell, even the 385 didn't want to come off the ground at all. I pulled an easy 425 in competition at 192 after barely eating all day and failing a squat and 2 benches, yet, today, 15 pounds heavier and with 4 extra months of solid training, 405 wouldn't budge.

Not happy. Not happy at all.


Back Squats (flat sole, wide): 185 x 3, 225 x 2

Stopped there, had some discomfort with the unrack mostly.

Reverse Hyper: 50 x 15 x 2

Did these nice and slow, left feeling pretty good as far as the SIJ is concerned. It's still been pretty ****ing stiff when I get up in the morning. But, typically, after moving around and especially after doing the rolling and stretching it feels pretty good.


I'm not sure how well my lower body lifts are progressing with the JM. I can say, without a doubt, that my pressing is better for it. But, that's too be expected with the amount of repetition I've been doing for them. Hit that 15 pound bench PR (250 was done paused, in competition, in August when I weighed 184) but I've also gained 20+ pounds since then. So not sure how I feel about all of this, the workouts feel good, because the challenge set at the end is a nut buster. But, I'm just not seeing the strength gains from it, hell, even my events aren't progressing... (and I've been doing this for what, 3 months now?)

I feel like I should be seeing more by now, and my wife is the same. She hit an ugly 245 today, but she hit an EASY 248 in competition in December, so if nothing else she has been able to maintain that with 4 months of constant training. It's pretty ****ing disheartening, honestly. My buddy (strongman competitor, gym owner) says it seems like my intensity has been a little lackluster since starting. Which, I've noticed before when using programs primarily based upon percentage and rep maxes (5/3/1 when I ran it early last year, and hated it).

And talking to him about it today, I realized that the only time I've made solid gains from a program was when I was running the Westside split, that I ran for a very long time. Honestly, after I switched from it (mostly to do more strongman oriented programs) is when I stopped seeing real progress. Which could be (and probably is) just from not having full and complete faith in anything else. I tried the cube (for 1.5 runs IIRC) and saw a drop in my bench, no squat increase, and a minimal DL increase (that accompanied a 15 pound weight increase) so I switched to JM (figuring that doing something I haven't ever done, in relation to the volume) would help spur my progress. But with 3 months of it (almost) and to lose 60 pounds on my DL (while gaining weight) is ridiculous.

So, after this competition, I will very likely just go back to what I know works. It's worked every time that I've done it before (over a 4 year span, where I nearly ran it constantly) and I probably should not have switched from it in the first place anyway.


Also, something else I noticed today. I've been training for 7+ years, with very, very few breaks in that time. And in that time have gotten a lot of size and strength. But, in that 7 year period, I have never been injured. No nagging pains, nothing. (besides the knee) I ran JM for 3 months, and now my SIJ is all ****ed up. Someone explain that ****.
 
The one thing I have to add besides the "it was only 1 bad day" is you've also done a whole lot of TnG deadlifts, haven't you? Perhaps by eliminating the pause your starting strength hasn't developed or sustained as properly as it may have with resets?
 
Torobestia said:
The one thing I have to add besides the "it was only 1 bad day" is you've also done a whole lot of TnG deadlifts, haven't you? Perhaps by eliminating the pause your starting strength hasn't developed or sustained as properly as it may have with resets?
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I only ever did TNG on the challenge sets, and only for the past 3 weeks.
 
When was the last time you had any near-maximal training for deadlifts? (I don't feel like goin back through your log to see lol sorry)
 
You've done an awful lot of high rep deadlifts if my memory is right, without any heavier work. Likely the culprit.
 
jimbuick said:
That's why I don't like the JM, that's all it is.


High rep, no heavy work.
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lol ya I don't like that either, think I mentioned that a while back.

I figured you were trying that approach for strongman to boost endurance.
 
NomZ said:
You've done an awful lot of high rep deadlifts if my memory is right, without any heavier work. Likely the culprit.
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Yeah
 
Try Cube with the 4th day your event day? That's what I'm starting this week for my upcoming strongman meet.
 
NomZ said:
Try Cube with the 4th day your event day? That's what I'm starting this week for my upcoming strongman meet.
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I did that from Aug-Dec (IIRC), and the result was a crap PL meet and a poor MetroFlex performance as well (which is why I switched to JM in the first place). I actually ran the Cube for Strongman (as outlined) while I was still in NC for a few months before switching to the regular cube and just doing events on the 4th day.
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Then I concur with Sir Nomz.

Can you do a Conjugate/Westside type deal and add in an event day?
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What I was planning was nixing the DE Lower day that I used to do and doing my events on that day. Which is what my buddy does as well (something fairly similar anyway) and he agreed that this would probably be the best way to do it (and it should help bring some more fluidity and intensity into the workout since I won't be bound by specific numbers).


Initial thoughts are:

Mon- ME Upper (OH movement)
Tue- Conditioning
Wed- ME Lower (alternating DL and Squat as main movement, the alternate movement will be whichever wasn't the main, and will be heavy for reps)
Thu- RE Upper (Bench variations, probably mostly DB/CG/Inc. variations)
Fri- Conditioning/Rest
Sat- Events
Sun- Rest/Mobility


I'm not upset that I gave the JM a solid try, I just am disappointed that I couldn't get much out of it. What I did like though, and will continue to do, are the challenge sets. Especially with the lower body, what I want to do is do my lower rep ME movement, and follow it with a couple heavy (80+%) sets of 6-8 and finish with a challenge set at that weight where I go for a rep PR.
 
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I don't blame you for switching man, 3 months should have yielded some progress. I was turned off by Juggernaut because it essentially looked like 5/3/1 with a lot more volume. Heavy weights produce heavy totals.
 
That sucks, man. Theoretically it looked like the maxes were climbing...when put to the test on the dead not so much.
 
Everything I thought I knew about training got turned on it's head for me the last 2 months. Doing just the main lifts with next to no accessory work and going to 90+% EOW.

IMHO YOUVE GOT TO LIFT THE MAIN LIFTS HEAVY, frequently. ****in caps on my phone.
 
As if I didn't have enough stupid bull**** to deal with after a 12 hour shift....


My wife locked the only key to the bathroom in the ****ing bathroom.
 
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