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Mass Gain cycle

DaLegend4445

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Hey everyone, I was looking into a prohormone but decided to go without it. I need to put on some weight and gain some more muscle. You guys have any good stacks? Looking for around 10 lbs. test boosters of anything that you guys know that works. Thanks
 
DaLegend4445 said:
Hey everyone, I was looking into a prohormone but decided to go without it. I need to put on some weight and gain some more muscle. You guys have any good stacks? Looking for around 10 lbs. test boosters of anything that you guys know that works. Thanks
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How old are you man? And how fast are you looking to put on 10 lbs.

To be honest if you're gonna stay away from PH and you're not like 16 get a good test booster I like test powder to be honest.

But diet and lifting heavy are gonna be your two best friends on a natty bulk
 
10lbs is quite a bit. I mean sure you can throw on ten pounds but it's not going to be all muscle (going off you want to gain 10lbs quickly). With that being said, obviously diet is the main factor. There are a few supps that can help you.

AnaBeta Elite
ArA (X-Gels or X-Factor)
Forskolin
Alphamax

Keep an eye out for a few new supps coming out also.
 
I'm about to be 21 but decided against it bc of the detection time of the SERMs. Looking for to gain strength and just look bigger in general. What are the best test boosters if you think that will help
 
Your a pitcher? ARA and pitching sounds like trouble. Haha
 
Lets start with true basics.. What is your diet like? Make sure you have your diet down, then look into a few of these (if you have not). For wanting to gain 10ish lbs, I'd hop on 4-5k cals (depending on your maintenance cals, metabolism, etc). Check out MyFitnessPal (if you have not already), great way to track calories and make sure you're hitting your macros. Now basic supplementation:

-Creatine: 3-5g per day (timing is irrelevant ). And once you've hit saturation, no need to dose on off days
-Beta Alanine: 3.2-5g/day. Dose on off days
-Betaine Anhydrous (TMG): 2.5-3g/day taken preworkout. Dose on off days
-Citrulline Malate: 6-9g/day, taken pre-wo
-Agmatine: 1-2g/day taken preworkout. Can also be taken with meals for GDA effects
-GMS: 3-6g/preworkout. Can be taken daily. Will help with pumps and fullness.

Other supplements to consider:

-Pre-workouts: There's a vast amount of great pre-workouts around (Mr. Hyde, Hemavol, C4, PSU, Myo-Blitz, etc) take a look and choose what you like best
-Forskolin: 50-100mg/day taken throughout the day, best with meals. (For you purposes though this may or may not be out of consideration)
-Anabeta Elite: 4 caps/day taken pre-workout. Increase in fullness, strength, etc
-Phosphatidic Acid: 750mg/day taken preworkout. Increase in fullness, strength, etc.
-ArA: 1000-2000mg on workout days taken preworkout. Increase in fullness, strength, etc. (Invalid Link Removed good read here

Also a lot of new "natural anabolics" on the horizon to take into consideration. SARMs (ostarine, s4, lgd, mk 677) may be something down your line. My suggestion for a "natty stack" would be an ArA stack.
ArA help:
The standard ArA cycle would contain;
1-2g ArA (1.5g seems to be the sweet spot)
2g LCLT (or some form of carinitine)
3-6g GMS

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Advanced Cycle:
1-2g ArA
2g LCLT
3-6g GMS
2-5g HCA
4caps ABE/Compound 20

Each having their own reason, of course.

Carnitine would would inhibit ArA being broken down into thromboxanes, enhances lipid packaging and enterocyte (lymphatic) absorption

GMS enhance emulsification in attempt to kinetically enhance the delivery of ArA to the enterocytes, and then to the lymphatics

HCA will aid in cellular uptake of extra ArA

Anabeta Elite/Compound 20 (via the ingredient Lodhra Bark) going to inhibit ArA being broken down into luekotrienes

*Must note while all these will produce results (with a good diet) they still won't hold up against PH/AAS. GL
 
I'm 35 and on my first run of ArA ever and have put on 1.5 lbs. of LBM in just about 2 weeks. And this is AFTER a PH cycle. That would be a good way to go.
 
Something that also gets forgotten is what type of training are you doing?
 
have a look at Mass Gainz/ testabolan/ forsk95 stacked ... would be a nice stack based on food instead of just sups.
 
ArA + Anabeta. all you need. just eat. dont look to supplements to gain mass. look to your training routine and kitchen
 
Whats gms?
 
R1balla said:
ArA + Anabeta. all you need. just eat. dont look to supplements to gain mass. look to your training routine and kitchen
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This. Good stack but for 10 pounds you need to eat big. And being natural be patient as well. No supplament is going to give you ph tyoe gains but with food the lbs will come
 
Just wanna point out that 10lbs gain in LBM is quite massive and if you are looking for a supplement to get that in any sort of time frame that isn't pretty long term you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.
 
bolt10 said:
Just wanna point out that 10lbs gain in LBM is quite massive and if you are looking for a supplement to get that in any sort of time frame that isn't pretty long term you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Agreed. Naturally it will take a long time with even with great diet/exercise
 
kbayne said:
10lbs is quite a bit. I mean sure you can throw on ten pounds but it's not going to be all muscle (going off you want to gain 10lbs quickly). With that being said, obviously diet is the main factor. There are a few supps that can help you.

AnaBeta Elite
ArA (X-Gels or X-Factor)
Forskolin
Alphamax

Keep an eye out for a few new supps coming out also.
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Great advice, X-Factor and AlphaMax along with high calories and creatine monohydrate will assist in packing on lean mass quickly.
 
10lbs LBM natty, hope you planned ahead 2 yrs... :p (assuming no noob gains)
 
MultiVitamin said:
Lets start with true basics.. What is your diet like? Make sure you have your diet down, then look into a few of these (if you have not). For wanting to gain 10ish lbs, I'd hop on 4-5k cals (depending on your maintenance cals, metabolism, etc). Check out MyFitnessPal (if you have not already), great way to track calories and make sure you're hitting your macros. Now basic supplementation:

-Creatine: 3-5g per day (timing is irrelevant ). And once you've hit saturation, no need to dose on off days
-Beta Alanine: 3.2-5g/day. Dose on off days
-Betaine Anhydrous (TMG): 2.5-3g/day taken preworkout. Dose on off days
-Citrulline Malate: 6-9g/day, taken pre-wo
-Agmatine: 1-2g/day taken preworkout. Can also be taken with meals for GDA effects
-GMS: 3-6g/preworkout. Can be taken daily. Will help with pumps and fullness.

Other supplements to consider:

-Pre-workouts: There's a vast amount of great pre-workouts around (Mr. Hyde, Hemavol, C4, PSU, Myo-Blitz, etc) take a look and choose what you like best
-Forskolin: 50-100mg/day taken throughout the day, best with meals. (For you purposes though this may or may not be out of consideration)
-Anabeta Elite: 4 caps/day taken pre-workout. Increase in fullness, strength, etc
-Phosphatidic Acid: 750mg/day taken preworkout. Increase in fullness, strength, etc.
-ArA: 1000-2000mg on workout days taken preworkout. Increase in fullness, strength, etc. (Invalid Link Removed good read here

Also a lot of new "natural anabolics" on the horizon to take into consideration. SARMs (ostarine, s4, lgd, mk 677) may be something down your line. My suggestion for a "natty stack" would be an ArA stack.
ArA help:
The standard ArA cycle would contain;
1-2g ArA (1.5g seems to be the sweet spot)
2g LCLT (or some form of carinitine)
3-6g GMS

-----------------------

Advanced Cycle:
1-2g ArA
2g LCLT
3-6g GMS
2-5g HCA
4caps ABE/Compound 20

Each having their own reason, of course.

Carnitine would would inhibit ArA being broken down into thromboxanes, enhances lipid packaging and enterocyte (lymphatic) absorption

GMS enhance emulsification in attempt to kinetically enhance the delivery of ArA to the enterocytes, and then to the lymphatics

HCA will aid in cellular uptake of extra ArA

Anabeta Elite/Compound 20 (via the ingredient Lodhra Bark) going to inhibit ArA being broken down into luekotrienes

*Must note while all these will produce results (with a good diet) they still won't hold up against PH/AAS. GL
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Good list, Its nice that there is some good options around today to help with gainz and performance naturally,
 
Lots of good advice in this thread. ArA + Anabeta Elite is a great stack. Stack ArA with GMS and LCLT pre workout as others have said.

Alphamax, great test booster (hard to stack with ABE because of Forskolin, could go with OG Anabeta + Alphamax or Anabeta Elite + Divanex possibly)

There are lots of great options for stacking once you get your feet wet...
 
TheNietzsche said:
Lots of good advice in this thread. ArA + Anabeta Elite is a great stack. Stack ArA with GMS and LCLT pre workout as others have said.

Alphamax, great test booster (hard to stack with ABE because of Forskolin, could go with OG Anabeta + Alphamax or Anabeta Elite + Divanex possibly)

There are lots of great options for stacking once you get your feet wet...
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Then add dermacrine. Mmmmm.....
 
kbayne said:
10lbs is quite a bit. I mean sure you can throw on ten pounds but it's not going to be all muscle (going off you want to gain 10lbs quickly). With that being said, obviously diet is the main factor. There are a few supps that can help you.

AnaBeta Elite
ArA (X-Gels or X-Factor)
Forskolin
Alphamax

Keep an eye out for a few new supps coming out also.
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SwolenONE said:
Great advice, X-Factor and AlphaMax along with high calories and creatine monohydrate will assist in packing on lean mass quickly.
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This would be an awesome stack!! X-Factor Alphamax and Anabeta, i honestly dont think you can find a better all around stack for overall mass gain. These supplements will literally target almost every pathway avaliable to increase LBM and strength, could even see you leaning out with a caloric surplus while adding LBM.

TheNietzsche said:
Lots of good advice in this thread. ArA + Anabeta Elite is a great stack. Stack ArA with GMS and LCLT pre workout as others have said.

Alphamax, great test booster (hard to stack with ABE because of Forskolin, could go with OG Anabeta + Alphamax or Anabeta Elite + Divanex possibly)

There are lots of great options for stacking once you get your feet wet...
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I think ABE + Alphamax is an amazing combo and IMO way more worth it then Divanex but then again im Biased. On Paper however it would be Anabeta + 1600mg Divanil vs. Anabeta + 1400mg Divanil, 300mg L-DOPA, 75mg Arimistane, 50mg Forksolin, 4000iu D3, ZMA, for almost same price!
 
Adizzle1 said:
I think ABE + Alphamax is an amazing combo and IMO way more worth it then Divanex but then again im Biased. On Paper however it would be Anabeta + 1600mg Divanil vs. Anabeta + 1400mg Divanil, 300mg L-DOPA, 75mg Arimistane, 50mg Forksolin, 4000iu D3, ZMA, for almost same price!
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I definitely agree, I just personally can't tolerate more than 75mg Forskolin, even at 95% like in both ABE and Alphamax. Others may be similar so I figure I'd give an alternative. Big fan of the AlphaMax formula.
 
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