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It's TRENbelievable! 1ifeblood's tren cycle

I know more than u think , I asked about tren effects on certain cal deficit ! I'm trying to learn !
I don't claim to be a nutritionist, or a steroid expert,
Sorry didn't realise you were mr perfect and know fu@king everything tgere is to know !

Make me laugh

Steroids are not a shortcut, I'm experienced to know diet, then training, then lastly steroids so don't try n make me feel uneducated and you think your superior !
 
craigydar said:
I know more than u think , I asked about tren effects on certain cal deficit ! I'm trying to learn ! I don't claim to be a nutritionist, or a steroid expert, Sorry didn't realise you were mr perfect and know fu@king everything tgere is to know ! Make me laugh Steroids are not a shortcut, I'm experienced to know diet, then training, then lastly steroids so don't try n make me feel uneducated and you think your superior !
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#1 I'm a girl
#2 damn rights I'm better, I train harder, have better results, oh wait .... I was blessed with some damn good genetics...
And... I educate my self every day....
So don't give me that sh!t....
 
InB4 Drama...
 
craigydar said:
I know more than u think , I asked about tren effects on certain cal deficit ! I'm trying to learn ! I don't claim to be a nutritionist, or a steroid expert, Sorry didn't realise you were mr perfect and know fu@king everything tgere is to know ! Make me laugh Steroids are not a shortcut, I'm experienced to know diet, then training, then lastly steroids so don't try n make me feel uneducated and you think your superior !
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If you have questions about tren, Kleen is actually running the new Xcel liquid tren right now and he might be able to give some good answers to your questions.
 
aceroni said:
Subbed for this guy to get flamed ^

Also, subbed for nudes.
No nudes, I'm out.
:)
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Hey Ace! I've seen your posts and you definitely know your shît! It's an honor to have you bro, thanks for joining.

Oh, and there WILL be noodz! Anyone that's been in my other logs know I'm a bit of a selfie whore :-D
aceroni said:
So are these doses super low or am I misreading something
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Lower than most use but enough to see results. I've read that you can get great results on 350mg tren a week and with keeping test at natural levels, I'll keep my normal functions going strong while letting the tren do it's stuff. If it goes the way I'm hoping, there should be minimal sides and great results. And I'm going to boost things a bit in the last 2 weeks to 455mg/week to see how a higher dose feels. Depending on how this cycle goes, I can always play with higher doses on a future cycle.
RegisterJr said:
InB4 Drama...
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Too late. ;-) But thanks for joining, Reg. Glad to have ya!
 
craigydar said:
I know more than u think , I asked about tren effects on certain cal deficit ! I'm trying to learn !
I don't claim to be a nutritionist, or a steroid expert,
Sorry didn't realise you were mr perfect and know fu@king everything tgere is to know !

Make me laugh

Steroids are not a shortcut, I'm experienced to know diet, then training, then lastly steroids so don't try n make me feel uneducated and you think your superior !
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You're more than welcome to follow along bro and offer your own experiences and knowledge as well as learn what you can from this crew. There's a lot of very knowledgeable people in here already and I suspect a few more still to join. The people around here are genuinely concerned for other's well being so if you think they are coming off as belittling you, they're not. They've just come across some real DBs that are jumping into the game way too early and are bound to fûck themselves up. So I just ask that you be more understanding and less defensive, because these are all very cool people up in hyah! :-)
 
craigydar said:
It's ok I'll forgive you and your friends ignorance
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craigydar said:
Your a brown nose Aswel then yea? Hiding in others shadows ?
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craigydar said:
I know more than u think
Sorry didn't realise you were mr perfect and know fu@king everything tgere is to know !

Make me laugh

don't try n make me feel uneducated and you think your superior !
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craigydar said:
But people just shoot you down ! Sorry for learning
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craigydar said:
Zzzzzz quite boring girl I must say
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just, wow
after reading this garbage, I will be quite frank with you and say point blank:
YOU have no business at all doing steroids
period
please grow up...and in the meantime, just go away

craigydar said:
I'm open to friends and advice just not rude and patronising comments
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oh I see -- you're one of those guys who only hears what you want to hear, and have such a complex about yourself that if anyone says anything differently, they are attacking you
shrewd



such madness
yep, you're ready for steroids, surely....
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
just, wow
after reading this garbage, I will be quite frank with you and say point blank:
YOU have no business at all doing steroids
period
please grow up...and in the meantime, just go away

oh I see -- you're one of those guys who only hears what you want to hear, and have such a complex about yourself that if anyone says anything differently, they are attacking you
shrewd

such madness
yep, you're ready for steroids, surely....
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Lol, Snags...nobody ever has to guess how you feel about anything! But that's what I love about ya. ;-)
 
craigydar said:
What are you on about !
I'm asking what affects eating at just below maintenance does to your physique. !

As usually I bulk or cut at 500 above it below never at maintenance .

It's ok I'll forgive you and your friends ignorance
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my ignorance? wtf do you think eating just below maintenance would do to your physique?seriously man that's the most retarded post i have ever seen in my life. i see a lot of crap coming from your posts. i've bitten my tongue many times when i've started to drop knowledge on your dumb ass. you just poured the gas on your f*cking head. simple law of cals in cals out does apply. the cleaner foods the better the results. its pretty standard really. its in the nutrition 101 course i think. i remember learning about it in like 3rd grade when they taught us the f*cked up food pyramid bs that said to eat 13 servings of grains a day.

you should try to forgive your self for f*cking your self up running tren for your first cycle and not knowing some of the most simple dietary principals out there. please do everyone a favor, get off the juice, check your attitude at the f*cking door and sit back and learn. do a little reading. its really quite nice to do a bit of that when you're truely interested in something and really want to learn it. you never know. maybe youre not intelligent enough to learn whats written in a book because its not what you want to hear. idk.
 
and blood i apologize for being a dick in your thread... you know i'm here to help and make the occasional gay joke.

there any way to block users in AM?
 
superbeast668 said:
and blood i apologize for being a dick in your thread... you know i'm here to help and make the occasional gay joke.
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No apologies needed big guy. Everyone is free to be who they are and say what they feel needs to be said. The process of learning quite often requires some "constructive" criticism.
 
1ifeblood said:
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I'm here! Better late than never.
 
So what do you have planned regarding your training style and cardio while on, or will that be something you'll figure out as you go? Regarding your question about macros, you should be able to eat more carbs but be careful about doing so in public because you'll be breathing hard, red, and sweaty. Very excited to see what kind of results you get with this cycle.

Also, nudes please.
 
classic34 said:
So what do you have planned regarding your training style and cardio while on, or will that be something you'll figure out as you go? Regarding your question about macros, you should be able to eat more carbs but be careful about doing so in public because you'll be breathing hard, red, and sweaty. Very excited to see what kind of results you get with this cycle.

Also, nudes please.
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I'm planning on utilizing the setup I used through my last cycle. 4 days a week, legs, chest, back, shoulders. First exercise will be a compound movement w/ barbell focusing on heavy weight at 3-5 reps for 3 working sets. Next exercise will be 8 sets of 8 using dumbells or single limb movements at 30-60 second rests. Finally to finish the muscle off, 3 sets of 12 of an isolated movement at a slow, controlled tempo of 4-2-4.

Example of chest day:

Bench Press 3x3-5
Incline DB Press 8x8
Cable flies 3x12

Depending on time and fatigue I'll throw in some arm work and abs throughout the week.
 
1ifeblood said:
I'm planning on utilizing the setup I used through my last cycle. 4 days a week, legs, chest, back, shoulders. First exercise will be a compound movement w/ barbell focusing on heavy weight at 3-5 reps for 3 working sets. Next exercise will be 8 sets of 8 using dumbells or single limb movements at 30-60 second rests. Finally to finish the muscle off, 3 sets of 12 of an isolated movement at a slow, controlled tempo of 4-2-4. Example of chest day: Bench Press 3x3-5 Incline DB Press 8x8 Cable flies 3x12 Depending on time and fatigue I'll throw in some arm work and abs throughout the week.
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Dude I like the set up. I'd personally do even higher rep last exercise but I may play with that.
 
superbeast668 said:
Dude I like the set up. I'd personally do even higher rep last exercise but I may play with that.
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I'll usually finish with db flys 5x15 and then half the weight and do them to absolute failure including rest pauses for a sixth set. Usually get somewhere around 25-30 reps if I'm really putting in work
 
1ifeblood said:
Hey Ace! I've seen your posts and you definitely know your shît! It's an honor to have you bro, thanks for joining. Oh, and there WILL be noodz! Anyone that's been in my other logs know I'm a bit of a selfie whore :-D Lower than most use but enough to see results. I've read that you can get great results on 350mg tren a week and with keeping test at natural levels, I'll keep my normal functions going strong while letting the tren do it's stuff. If it goes the way I'm hoping, there should be minimal sides and great results. And I'm going to boost things a bit in the last 2 weeks to 455mg/week to see how a higher dose feels. Depending on how this cycle goes, I can always play with higher doses on a future cycle. Too late. ;-) But thanks for joining, Reg. Glad to have ya!
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I had amazing results at 350 tren 175 prop. No need to go higher for a first cycle. Tren is beastly stuff.

What's your dosing scheme look like? I only ever tried 50tren/20-25prop ed. Heard many that go eod but may have more sidrs
 
superbeast668 said:
Dude I like the set up. I'd personally do even higher rep last exercise but I may play with that.
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TheSwanks said:
I'll usually finish with db flys 5x15 and then half the weight and do them to absolute failure including rest pauses for a sixth set. Usually get somewhere around 25-30 reps if I'm really putting in work
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I'll definitely play around with those last sets to push to absolute failure. Keep in mind the tempo that I'm using. Slow with a 2 second "squeeze" really gets the burn on. When I can't keep the tempo I just rep it out until I can't go anymore.
 
booneman77 said:
I had amazing results at 350 tren 175 prop. No need to go higher for a first cycle. Tren is beastly stuff.

What's your dosing scheme look like? I only ever tried 50tren/20-25prop ed. Heard many that go eod but may have more sidrs
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1ifeblood said:
Hey gang! That's right...I'm running a low test / high tren 8 week cycle! Been doing a LOT of research over the past several months and now the time has come! I'm really just looking to recomp by adding some muscle and lowering bf. Here's the layout...

Week 1-4: Test P @ 15mg/day
Week 5-8: Test P @ 20mg/day
Week 1-8: Tren A @ 50mg/day
*There's a little extra tren so I may be upping dosage for the last couple weeks depending on sides

Support
Exemestane 12.5mg/day
Prami .25mg/day

PCT
Torem 100/75/50/25

That's the gist of it. I've got all my support supps and precautionary measures on hand. Diet will be clean clean clean! I'll be keeping calories at maintenance since tren is so good at utilizing nutrients more efficiently.

I'll throw up current measurements and pics on Sunday since this is when I'll consistently be doing it throughout my cycle.

Thanks for subbing and enjoy the ride!
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1ifeblood said:
I'll definitely play around with those last sets to push to absolute failure. Keep in mind the tempo that I'm using. Slow with a 2 second "squeeze" really gets the burn on. When I can't keep the tempo I just rep it out until I can't go anymore.
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true. i'm a big dumb meat head, its hard to keep timing and rep count. thats why i just would use a higher rep #. lmao. im serious though i'm gonna put my beast modifications on this and use it though i think.
 
booneman77 said:
I had amazing results at 350 tren 175 prop. No need to go higher for a first cycle. Tren is beastly stuff.

What's your dosing scheme look like? I only ever tried 50tren/20-25prop ed. Heard many that go eod but may have more sidrs
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I was originally thinking 25/100 Test/tren eod but after doing some research I felt like 15/50 ed was best for keeping sides to a minimum, less fluid to push into the muscle at one time, and better plasma consistency. I don't mind sticking myself either...actually I kinda like it lol.
 
superbeast668 said:
true. i'm a big dumb meat head, its hard to keep timing and rep count. thats why i just would use a higher rep #. lmao. im serious though i'm gonna put my beast modifications on this and use it though i think.
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That's awesome bro! I'm glad I could contribute something lol! Let me know what you think of it.
 
1ifeblood said:
I was originally thinking 25/100 Test/tren eod but after doing some research I felt like 15/50 ed was best for keeping sides to a minimum, less fluid to push into the muscle at one time, and better plasma consistency. I don't mind sticking myself either...actually I kinda like it lol.
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Haha same here. Besides the gym, pinning is my favorite part of every day. You pinning mornings, nights or what?
 
Haven't really had a chance to go over everything yet man but I did see that your using prami, my advice, start low, like very low and work your way up. Its called puking prami for a reason and I found out the hard way .25 had me spewing my guts out for hours. Also dosing prami before bed daily has a positive effect on GH release.
 
Oh my bad L.B.!
I didn't read the doses were per day.. I read per week. I'm retarted!

(I've never actually cycled yet so Idk much about doses, just what I've read)

I do like the low dose idea, very smart idea man. Why use more when less will do?

Any way good luck.

I'm with Cassie, where's the nudes?
 
booneman77 said:
Haha same here. Besides the gym, pinning is my favorite part of every day. You pinning mornings, nights or what?
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Planning on mornings but after my workout in case I have to deal with pip. I can't imagine it will be too bad though since I'm not pushing so much liquid in at once. I don't know though, has anyone seen any difference with pinning PrWO?
Lukef2000 said:
Haven't really had a chance to go over everything yet man but I did see that your using prami, my advice, start low, like very low and work your way up. Its called puking prami for a reason and I found out the hard way .25 had me spewing my guts out for hours. Also dosing prami before bed daily has a positive effect on GH release.
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Definitely dosing before bed. I've seen that it can cause lethargy which is not something I need to be dealing with at my job. I have to talk to too many people and be "persuasive" lol. Plus with tren causing people to have a hard time sleeping, it seems to help with falling asleep. My first doses of prami will start at .125mg and work from there...if I even need to.
aceroni said:
Oh my bad L.B.!
I didn't read the doses were per day.. I read per week. I'm retarted!

(I've never actually cycled yet so Idk much about doses, just what I've read)

I do like the low dose idea, very smart idea man. Why use more when less will do?

Any way good luck.

I'm with Cassie, where's the nudes?
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Lol! It's all good man. And I'll put up some pre cycle noodz next Sunday. :-)
 
1ifeblood said:
Planning on mornings but after my workout in case I have to deal with pip. I can't imagine it will be too bad though since I'm not pushing so much liquid in at once. I don't know though, has anyone seen any difference with pinning PrWO?

Definitely dosing before bed. I've seen that it can cause lethargy which is not something I need to be dealing with at my job. I have to talk to too many people and be "persuasive" lol. Plus with tren causing people to have a hard time sleeping, it seems to help with falling asleep. My first doses of prami will start at .125mg and work from there...if I even need to.

Lol! It's all good man. And I'll put up some pre cycle noodz next Sunday. :-)
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Noob question, please forgive me

What are prami and exem for?

Also I know a few powerlifters that swear by dbol pre workout, but Idk if tren acts the same way.


Edit: also I like your training set up.

Simple, yet effective

Do you care to go into more detail about your diet?
 
aceroni said:
Noob question, please forgive me What are prami and exem for? Also I know a few powerlifters that swear by dbol pre workout, but Idk if tren acts the same way. Edit: also I like your training set up. Simple, yet effective Do you care to go into more detail about your diet?
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Prami is for prolactin control. Exem is an AI.
 
aceroni said:
Noob question, please forgive me

What are prami and exem for?

Also I know a few powerlifters that swear by dbol pre workout, but Idk if tren acts the same way.

Edit: also I like your training set up.

Simple, yet effective

Do you care to go into more detail about your diet?
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Exemestane (aromasin) is an aromatase inhibitor. The aromatase enzyme is what converts test to estrogen. Obviously if you're putting more test into your system then that potentially creates more estrogen and is where the unwanted sides come from (ie. Gyno). Exem binds to the aromatase enzyme and permanently takes it out of commission unlike arimidex and other AIs that can unbind from the enzyme, allowing it to convert test to e again. Now I'm not putting more than natural amounts of test into my system and tren (supposedly) does not aromatize so one would think there's no need for an AI. But as beast mentioned earlier, there's no real proof as to what tren can potentially do in any given individual. Everyone reacts differently to these drugs so I feel it makes sense to err on the side of caution. But another benefit of exem that I like is its ability to lower SHBG so I'll theoretically have more available free test floating around...also why I feel the low test doses will be more than sufficient, especially since we naturally create 70mg of test in a week's time on average.

Since tren acts like a progestin in the body you need to have something to keep prolactin levels down. Pramipexole assists with keeping prolactin levels low through your dopaminergic system (which is where the lethargy comes from). It's also known to increase GH quite a bit. High levels of prolactin are known to cause gyno and is the main reason why guys can't get a erection while on. It's the same thing that happens after you orgasm, which is why it's hard (pun intended) for guys to have multiple orgasms...but not impossible. :-D

That's the best I can do to explain what I've learned so far. There's other guys/gals that will probably be able to explain things better...and probably more accurately. But I hope that helps!
 
Solid explanations. Very solid. That is way more typing than i would ever do lol. Actually easy to read it for the amount of info you dumped.

Never heard of multiples on prami for men I thought that was more a caber thing... they go through slightly different pathways to achieve very similar results. Can anyone that uses prami chime in? I know for sure caber does it... The ol lady does too. She's having issues walking today
 
superbeast668 said:
Solid explanations. Very solid. That is way more typing than i would ever do lol. Actually easy to read it for the amount of info you dumped.

Never heard of multiples on prami for men I thought that was more a caber thing... they go through slightly different pathways to achieve very similar results. Can anyone that uses prami chime in? I know for sure caber does it... The ol lady does too. She's having issues walking today
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Thanks bro! And actually I'm swiping on my phone lol. When I was talking about multiple orgasms I just meant naturally, nothing that prami does for you. When you orgasm guys release prolactin which causes you to go limp, making it hard to have multiple orgasms. Though I can see how prami would allow allow a guy to have multiples since prolactin is suppressed. I guess I'll have to experiment with that. :-)
 
Very solid info thanks LB.
I must have lower prolactin release because I can usually get it Back up within five to ten minutes.
Or maybe its just a perk of being 24.

My girl loves this.
 
aceroni said:
Very solid info thanks LB.
I must have lower prolactin release because I can usually get it Back up within five to ten minutes.
Or maybe its just a perk of being 24.

My girl loves this.
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At 36 I can typically be ready to go in a few minutes but it doesn't usually happen because by the time I go, my wife has gone a few times and is usually ready to be done lol. She's 25! :-D I'm still a pretty horny guy at my age...it's the Scorpio in me. But my wife really isn't gonna know what hit her when I go on lol!
 
1ifeblood said:
At 36 I can typically be ready to go in a few minutes but it doesn't usually happen because by the time I go, my wife has gone a few times and is usually ready to be done lol. She's 25! :-D I'm still a pretty horny guy at my age...it's the Scorpio in me. But my wife really isn't gonna know what hit her when I go on lol!
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Lol mine loves gear for a few weeks then it's all down hill. Her throat gets sore, it whistles when she farts, bruised cervix...
 
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