jimbuick
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Ok, I didn't know what type of shoes have different treads lol.
I have my UA Tennis shoes, converse, and vibrams that I plan to bring.
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Ok, I didn't know what type of shoes have different treads lol.
I have my UA Tennis shoes, converse, and vibrams that I plan to bring.
napalm
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if there's any snow/freezing rain on the surface vibrams won't work. i'd go w work boots...
Sean1332
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I still bust my ass on the boats wearing boots on the non-skid decks!
Jimbo-James, go to a outdoorsy store. They'll sell these attatchments that can strap onto your boots. The bottoms of them are metal coils. That's what I slap on my boots. You'll be able to run on ice.
napalm
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bingo...
jimbuick
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Hmm, I might go get some of those and wear one of the pair's I have from the army.
I'll check online and see what kind of prices I see.
jimbuick
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I saw some from Gander Mountain, they're all on backorder though.
I'm not sure if there will be any ice on the ground, but I expect it to be slick.
Those probably wouldn't help on slick concrete would they?
smoker145
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Strong wife James. How much difference from number 1 to her ?
jimbuick
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Hmm, Idk if I have anything like that.
napalm
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if i had time i'd ship them to you...
iparatroop
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Get some sprinters spikes. Or some old golf shoes with the metal things on bottom.
napalm
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like...
edit:
ABORT
no spikes on slick shyt, fall right on your face
<---has happened golfing in 35 degree weather...
Sean1332
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Maybe that was Dave's intention? Good job ruining that. We could of had the chance to see Jimbo-James with a broken nose this weekend.
iparatroop
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Haha, no, I wasn't trying to break Jim's face, I was just thinking outside the box. Wasn't for the slick, it was for the ice. I think sprinting spikes would work on ice, especially for a truck pull. Spikes are only on the forward portion of the sole if I remember correctly.
jimbuick
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Lol, I ran track, I know better than to use spikes on concrete.
But knowing him, that very well might have been the point.
jimbuick
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It bothers me too.
Sean1332
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I like Jimbo, Rob likes James. I've combined the powers.
Sean1332
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jimbuick
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Yeah, just the front.
It might work on ice, although I expect concrete would be a bad idea.
herderdude
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Was alcohol involved? I mean, we ARE talking about golf here. That's how I was brought up to golf. You can always drink a little if you're playing well, and usually by hole 3 or 4, you can tell if the day is going to be about golfing, or about drinking.
EDIT: Don't they use rock climbing shoes for truck pulls? I have no idea how rock climbing shoes would work on ice, I've just heard rock climbing shoes mentioned in strongman videos.
jimbuick
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Some people do, some people don't.
napalm
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Nah, no booze. It was about 4 yrs ago. Me and my old man went out on a sunny Jan day.
Picked up my bag, took two steps on the wet cart path, feet came out from beneath me and right onto my face.
Birdied the next hole and then briefly considered falling on my face every hole...
iparatroop
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Alright, I've sat on it for a couple of days, but I think I'm gonna rehash this one since I didn't chime in originally.
Strongman vs crossfit.
Is Brian Shaw really the strongest man in the world? Is Rich Froning really the fittest man on the planet? In my eyes, these questions can only be answered by the governing bodies of each of their respective "sports".
Strongman was established decades ago. I have no doubt in my mind that there were factions that questioned the overall legitimacy of the competition itself. Is there anyone on the planet that can deadlift, squat, overhead press, bench or move more weight otherwise than Brian Shaw. Undoubtedly, yes. Strongman, like most other competitions, is a culmination of many events over a few days. The individual who possesses the most amount of points at the end is regarded as "the strongest man in the world", and that's accepted now, universally. Looking a little deeper though, would a deadlift in that competition be legal in a powerlifting competition? A good lift in strongman is from the floor to lockout, regardless of "hitches" in between. So the answer is "no", it would not be legal in a PL competition. Should that take anything away from the number since it's allowed in Shaw's poison of choice? I don't think it should.
Crossfit is newer. Quite a bit newer. Since crossfit laid the claim to the overall test of fitness and annually crowns "the fittest man on the planet" and the "fittest woman on the planet", then they have the right to do so. They did it first. The crossfit games, like world's strongest man, is a culmination of multiple events over the course of a few days. Like strongman, the individual who racks up the most points, wins. To say that crossfit is strongman for women is a cop out in my eyes. They're two totally different assessments. Just because the weights may be lighter doesn't mean that the level of difficulty is any lower. I'd go out on a limb and venture to say that the top "athletes" in the crossfit games move a grand total more than the competitors in strongman do (reps*weight). When has there been a swimming, rowing, distance running, or a rope climb event in strongman? As long as I've been watching, never. Crossfit is a test of overall fitness, not of just "dynamic strength". Should it be discounted as a "sport" because of that? I don't think it should.
There's the argument that crossfit produces a lot of injuries. That's like saying that guns kill people or that spoons make people fat. It's bullshït. People with bad form and no sense of their own limitations cause injuries. Do people get injured while performing in strongman? Fück yes. There have been some pretty gruesome injuries in that sport as well. Hell, Olympic weightlifting and powerlifting aren't exempt either. Shït happens, people get hurt, ask Junior Seau.
I think it's narrow minded to discount a sport as a sport because you don't agree with its methodologies, practices or teachings. Overall, most athletes who participate in sports which involve a barbell and weights are after the same end result...bigger, stronger, faster. I think if we could all look past the labels of strongman, powerlifter or crossfitter, we could probably learn something from one another and that would ultimately benefit all.
/rant
Strongman vs crossfit.
Is Brian Shaw really the strongest man in the world? Is Rich Froning really the fittest man on the planet? In my eyes, these questions can only be answered by the governing bodies of each of their respective "sports".
Strongman was established decades ago. I have no doubt in my mind that there were factions that questioned the overall legitimacy of the competition itself. Is there anyone on the planet that can deadlift, squat, overhead press, bench or move more weight otherwise than Brian Shaw. Undoubtedly, yes. Strongman, like most other competitions, is a culmination of many events over a few days. The individual who possesses the most amount of points at the end is regarded as "the strongest man in the world", and that's accepted now, universally. Looking a little deeper though, would a deadlift in that competition be legal in a powerlifting competition? A good lift in strongman is from the floor to lockout, regardless of "hitches" in between. So the answer is "no", it would not be legal in a PL competition. Should that take anything away from the number since it's allowed in Shaw's poison of choice? I don't think it should.
Crossfit is newer. Quite a bit newer. Since crossfit laid the claim to the overall test of fitness and annually crowns "the fittest man on the planet" and the "fittest woman on the planet", then they have the right to do so. They did it first. The crossfit games, like world's strongest man, is a culmination of multiple events over the course of a few days. Like strongman, the individual who racks up the most points, wins. To say that crossfit is strongman for women is a cop out in my eyes. They're two totally different assessments. Just because the weights may be lighter doesn't mean that the level of difficulty is any lower. I'd go out on a limb and venture to say that the top "athletes" in the crossfit games move a grand total more than the competitors in strongman do (reps*weight). When has there been a swimming, rowing, distance running, or a rope climb event in strongman? As long as I've been watching, never. Crossfit is a test of overall fitness, not of just "dynamic strength". Should it be discounted as a "sport" because of that? I don't think it should.
There's the argument that crossfit produces a lot of injuries. That's like saying that guns kill people or that spoons make people fat. It's bullshït. People with bad form and no sense of their own limitations cause injuries. Do people get injured while performing in strongman? Fück yes. There have been some pretty gruesome injuries in that sport as well. Hell, Olympic weightlifting and powerlifting aren't exempt either. Shït happens, people get hurt, ask Junior Seau.
I think it's narrow minded to discount a sport as a sport because you don't agree with its methodologies, practices or teachings. Overall, most athletes who participate in sports which involve a barbell and weights are after the same end result...bigger, stronger, faster. I think if we could all look past the labels of strongman, powerlifter or crossfitter, we could probably learn something from one another and that would ultimately benefit all.
/rant
RegisterJr
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iparatroop
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Like being back at Bragg huh?
jimbuick
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Yeah, a lot of places are closing and no one knows how to drive out here.
herderdude
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It seems it's like that everywhere you go. Pittsburgh and the surrounding area is very hilly. Not like central PA or West Virginny, but it's got some up and down to it. It snowed a bunch on meet weekend in Columbus and we were getting along no problem, flat and straight roads are no challenge. Yet we saw many locals in cornfields, which I thought was hilarious. It's okay to laugh at stupid people, right?
jimbuick
Legend
Definitely.
herderdude
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Really, life would be kind of boring without them.
CincyKiller45
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herderdude said:
I concur, dumb drivers are not limited to any particular region. I was driving to school the other day, snow was at least a couple inches deep. I'm cruising along at about 40mph and some redneck flies by at 70 or above.
A couple miles up I saw ol dude nailed a guard rail. I don't know what people think they're proving NASCAR'ing in 3" of snow.
jimbuick
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All I have to say about today is :FUfinger:
I performed terribly, I don't know how I placed (and I don't really care), I just know that I did very poorly on ALL of the events and expected much more from myself.
Squat Lift: 700 Best Lift (failed 800, and by failed I mean I was robbed of it for the same thing another person was awarded the lift for)
OHP Medley: 0 (failed the log, never got a chance at anything else)
Car Deadlift: 0
Firetruck Pull: Not very far (20,000# lighter truck, 25' shorter distance, still didn't get anywhere. Maybe 5-10 feet?)
700# Yoke: 1 Foot (maybe?)
I performed terribly, I don't know how I placed (and I don't really care), I just know that I did very poorly on ALL of the events and expected much more from myself.
Squat Lift: 700 Best Lift (failed 800, and by failed I mean I was robbed of it for the same thing another person was awarded the lift for)
OHP Medley: 0 (failed the log, never got a chance at anything else)
Car Deadlift: 0
Firetruck Pull: Not very far (20,000# lighter truck, 25' shorter distance, still didn't get anywhere. Maybe 5-10 feet?)
700# Yoke: 1 Foot (maybe?)
jimbuick
Legend
Really, nothing else needs to be said about it. I'm disappointed in my performance and need to be better. There's no excuse for why I didn't do as well as I thought I would, and I'm not going to sit here and bitch about the things I could have done training wise to have done better.
I didn't do well, and I will do better at my next competition. That's really all there is to it.
As of right now, the only competition I have planned for this year (assuming I can afford it and travel) is TX Strongest Man on April 12 in San Antonio.
I didn't do well, and I will do better at my next competition. That's really all there is to it.
As of right now, the only competition I have planned for this year (assuming I can afford it and travel) is TX Strongest Man on April 12 in San Antonio.
CountryLiftin
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Get back together, hit training hard, and destroy next time around.
jimbuick
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Ok, so I don't plan to do much this week (deload this week) might do events on Saturday.
I do expect that I will be training with the JM, and I'll put that together the rest of the way this week.
So I'll have the training for at least the next 4 month's set up.
This template calls for a deload every 4th week, so my question is, is that truly necessary or beneficial? I don't enjoy deloading that frequently, and wonder if I can't deload every 6 like I did with 5/3/1. (or as necessary if it needs to be more frequent)
Any ideas?
I do expect that I will be training with the JM, and I'll put that together the rest of the way this week.
So I'll have the training for at least the next 4 month's set up.
This template calls for a deload every 4th week, so my question is, is that truly necessary or beneficial? I don't enjoy deloading that frequently, and wonder if I can't deload every 6 like I did with 5/3/1. (or as necessary if it needs to be more frequent)
Any ideas?
throneof
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Shake it off, bro. Analyze what may have went wrong in training, learn from it, and move on. Do not harbor negative energy (anger, sadness, regret, etc.). It will do no good.
jimbuick
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Ok guys, Sean1332 Swanson52 herderdude Rodja napalm NomZ rob112 CincyKiller45
This is what CWS outlines as a Strongman JM Template in JM 2.0.
Mon: Deadlift and Squat (DL done as JM, Squat follows as 5/3/1)
Tue: Aerobic Capacity Work
Wed: Overhead
Thu: Aerobic Capacity
Fri: Event Day (moving events + stones)
Sat: Bench (CG / Inc.)
Sun: Rest
I want to know how you guys feel about that, specifically having squat and deadlift on the same day. Personally, I'm not a fan of the idea, his reasoning is that Squats are rarely a competition event but still need to be trained for strongman (because of the carryover to other events), but are not as important as DL (because they are almost always in competition) so they are to be done with less volume and after DLing.
I don't really see anything wrong with Squatting and Deadlifting on the same day, my real issue is only doing it 1x a week. I've always had success doing it 2x a week and through my discussions with Marshall had become fond of the idea of doing a DL as the first assistance lift on Squat day (SL, Deficit, Rack, etc.) and then doing the opposite on DL day (front squat, box squat, etc.).
Right off the bat I know the only issue with this setup is that my event days WILL be on Saturdays, and the gym is not open to do the bench on Sunday. I could obviously rearrange this in a way that would work, but I still don't really like the idea of doing only one day for two major lifts.
So, I'm just looking to see what you guys think. Any thoughts?
This is what CWS outlines as a Strongman JM Template in JM 2.0.
Mon: Deadlift and Squat (DL done as JM, Squat follows as 5/3/1)
Tue: Aerobic Capacity Work
Wed: Overhead
Thu: Aerobic Capacity
Fri: Event Day (moving events + stones)
Sat: Bench (CG / Inc.)
Sun: Rest
I want to know how you guys feel about that, specifically having squat and deadlift on the same day. Personally, I'm not a fan of the idea, his reasoning is that Squats are rarely a competition event but still need to be trained for strongman (because of the carryover to other events), but are not as important as DL (because they are almost always in competition) so they are to be done with less volume and after DLing.
I don't really see anything wrong with Squatting and Deadlifting on the same day, my real issue is only doing it 1x a week. I've always had success doing it 2x a week and through my discussions with Marshall had become fond of the idea of doing a DL as the first assistance lift on Squat day (SL, Deficit, Rack, etc.) and then doing the opposite on DL day (front squat, box squat, etc.).
Right off the bat I know the only issue with this setup is that my event days WILL be on Saturdays, and the gym is not open to do the bench on Sunday. I could obviously rearrange this in a way that would work, but I still don't really like the idea of doing only one day for two major lifts.
So, I'm just looking to see what you guys think. Any thoughts?
Sean1332
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Looks good on paper. There's some 800lb pullers that pull only every other week, so that makes me think the same for squat. As for doing them both on the same day, I don't see it being too taxing on you, especially when it's just once a week. Also, there was a recent EFS article that I'm tryin to find for you. It was specific towards strongman. Instead of having a typical 7 day training week, shift it to 10 to allow yourself the time to work on what you need to do.
Like I said, looks good on paper. Give it a whirl.
Like I said, looks good on paper. Give it a whirl.
jimbuick
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I think I read that article recently.
Sean1332
Legend
Yeah I just found it. It's not that interesting now that I look at it again.
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herderdude
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As far as the split, the easy fix would be to push everything back one day so that event day falls on a Saturday and everything else falls on the following day. I'm with Sean on protecting your body with a ten day split, though. AND By doing that, you would be able to skip the deload weeks, since you wanted to do that anyway. I don't have much of an issue with the whole squat and deadlift on the same day, but I think you could find a way to split them up if you move to a ten day week.
Seems like most of those strongman squat events are high, so you could even rotate in high box squats as a main movement or assistance to get some more weight on your back for yoke carryover and build the hip drive for locking out some big deadlifts either from PLing height or strongman events where you pull from 16 or 18 inches. I know that's pretty much blasphemy as we're all "Depth before Dishonor" guys, but I think it could play for your goals.
Seems like most of those strongman squat events are high, so you could even rotate in high box squats as a main movement or assistance to get some more weight on your back for yoke carryover and build the hip drive for locking out some big deadlifts either from PLing height or strongman events where you pull from 16 or 18 inches. I know that's pretty much blasphemy as we're all "Depth before Dishonor" guys, but I think it could play for your goals.
jimbuick
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Yeah, but then the issue arises with bench day being on Sunday.
I don't think a 10 day would work for me just because we do event days as a team (me, Chris, Mike, CJ, and the 2 pro Strongmen that train there).
14 could work but I wouldn't even begin to know what to fill those days with.