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Wasme's recomp journey....

1/4/2014 cont'd Mountain Training - Program 3 Week 4 - Phase 1 - LEGS F*ck me! And that is all I gotta say. :) Lying Leg Curls - 3 warmups/4 worksets 70x10 70x10 70x10 80x15 85x12 90x9 90x6 Smith Squats with Monster Mini Bands 135x8 185x8 205x8 215x10 215x10 215x10 Barbell Squats - feet wider than shoulder width, toes out, drop just below parallel 135x8 185x10 185x15 185x15 185x12 - I had nothing left, very wobbly on the way back up on 12 Teardrop Leg Extensions - pause in contracted positions for 1 sec 90x8 105x8 115x8 Barbell Stiff Legged Deadlifts - work deep stretch 160x10 170x10 170x10 - this workout was gruelling. Legs were burnt out and felt as though they were on fire. Walking up the stairs to grab a quick shower before going to get groceries was definitely made me smile. Just something about killing legs that makes you grin ear to ear. I have an interesting date night tonight. For those who have ever seen the Evil Dead movies, they actually developed a 'broadway' style show of it back in 2003 in Toronto. It went to Broadway, tour the USA and I think has a pretty long running stint in Vegas. It has been in Toronto for about 6 months, and I have always wanted to see it. And tonight I shall. Should be fun! Enjoy your day fella's. And bean5er congrats bro!

Strong leg work! Taking notes!
 
1/5/2014

Mountain Training - Program 3
Week 4 - Phase 2 - Chest and Shoulders

Woke to snow....slammed my BCAASAA and 1/2 scoop of stimul8 and shoveled the driveway to keep ahead of things. Then off through the park for 5km. Running in the snow sucks, slow and difficult - but that extra resistance just makes for a better workout. Between the two I would say that was 75 minutes of cardio.

Took another 1/2 scoop of stimul8 with 4 max pump uncapped and 4 creatrona. As I was going outside my 16 year old daughter asked if she could try my workout with me. I was reluctant as I knew that would slow things down, but how could I say no - great chance to bond and see what she can do as she does go to the gym 5-6 days a week. So into the garage we went.

Machine Flies - 3 warmups, 3 working sets - hard flex for 1 second at the top position
80x10
90x10
90x10
110x8
110x8
110x8


Incline Barbell Press - 2 warmup, 5 working sets - lower to 1" of chest, no lockout - continuous tension
135x8
185x8
205x8
205x8
205x8
205x7
205x7

- last two sets just could not get to 8. My shoulder pain started to flare up during this exercise. My daughter actually notice that my right side doesnt drop as much as my left. She noticed there was a slight tilt to the bar. So I must be putting more load on my left shoulder than my right. This would totally make sense. With lighter weight this did not happen, only when things got heavy or I started to struggle. Perhaps I should do more dumbbell work?


Flat Dumbbell Press - palms facing, deep stretch with a pause at the bottom, 3/4 lockout
50x8
60x8
60x8
65x8


Decline Dumbbell Press (in place of Dips) / Band Over and Backs
50x10 / 8
60x10 / 8
60x10 / 8


Dumbbell Rear Raises / Band over and backs
20x10 / 10
20x35 / 10
20x35 / 10
20x35 / 10

- Must admit I paused alot during those 35 reps on all sets. Found it brutal. Next time around I will have to go with a lighter wait. Delts felt smoked.


Dumbbell Side Laterals - raise to just above ears / Band over backs
15x15 / 8
15x15 / 8
15x15 / 8
15x15 / 8

- By the time I was on set 3, the bands over backs were just killing.


Cage Presses
115x9
135x7
145x5
165x3

- daughter noticed again there that the left side of the bar was dropping slightly more than the right, and again shoulder was nagging. I might start lowering the weight a bit to even things out. Suggestions welcome..


Another gruelling but great session. Actually having Ashley in my gym with me helped decipher what my shoulder issue has been and the workout flew as we were able to talk abit and I was able to teach her some things. She was a trooper and went with light weight and did everything I did. At the end, she looked at me and said "oh my god i cant believe how hard your workouts are, thanks Dad." I left the garage feeling really good on this day.
 
When you are doing incline work......what's the bars path? Is it straight up? Or is it up and out a bit? This can make a huge difference.
 
Also are you pinning your shoulders back? Imagine hugging the bench with your lats if you can.......
 
1/5/2014 Mountain Training - Program 3 Week 4 - Phase 2 - Chest and Shoulders Woke to snow....slammed my BCAASAA and 1/2 scoop of stimul8 and shoveled the driveway to keep ahead of things. Then off through the park for 5km. Running in the snow sucks, slow and difficult - but that extra resistance just makes for a better workout. Between the two I would say that was 75 minutes of cardio. Took another 1/2 scoop of stimul8 with 4 max pump uncapped and 4 creatrona. As I was going outside my 16 year old daughter asked if she could try my workout with me. I was reluctant as I knew that would slow things down, but how could I say no - great chance to bond and see what she can do as she does go to the gym 5-6 days a week. So into the garage we went. Machine Flies - 3 warmups, 3 working sets - hard flex for 1 second at the top position 80x10 90x10 90x10 110x8 110x8 110x8 Incline Barbell Press - 2 warmup, 5 working sets - lower to 1" of chest, no lockout - continuous tension 135x8 185x8 205x8 205x8 205x8 205x7 205x7 - last two sets just could not get to 8. My shoulder pain started to flare up during this exercise. My daughter actually notice that my right side doesnt drop as much as my left. She noticed there was a slight tilt to the bar. So I must be putting more load on my left shoulder than my right. This would totally make sense. With lighter weight this did not happen, only when things got heavy or I started to struggle. Perhaps I should do more dumbbell work? Flat Dumbbell Press - palms facing, deep stretch with a pause at the bottom, 3/4 lockout 50x8 60x8 60x8 65x8 Decline Dumbbell Press (in place of Dips) / Band Over and Backs 50x10 / 8 60x10 / 8 60x10 / 8 Dumbbell Rear Raises / Band over and backs 20x10 / 10 20x35 / 10 20x35 / 10 20x35 / 10 - Must admit I paused alot during those 35 reps on all sets. Found it brutal. Next time around I will have to go with a lighter wait. Delts felt smoked. Dumbbell Side Laterals - raise to just above ears / Band over backs 15x15 / 8 15x15 / 8 15x15 / 8 15x15 / 8 - By the time I was on set 3, the bands over backs were just killing. Cage Presses 115x9 135x7 145x5 165x3 - daughter noticed again there that the left side of the bar was dropping slightly more than the right, and again shoulder was nagging. I might start lowering the weight a bit to even things out. Suggestions welcome.. Another gruelling but great session. Actually having Ashley in my gym with me helped decipher what my shoulder issue has been and the workout flew as we were able to talk abit and I was able to teach her some things. She was a trooper and went with light weight and did everything I did. At the end, she looked at me and said "oh my god i cant believe how hard your workouts are, thanks Dad." I left the garage feeling really good on this day.

Awesome having your daughter in there with you bud!!

Where is your shoulder pain? Also are you doing these on the smith machine?

When you are doing incline work......what's the bars path? Is it straight up? Or is it up and out a bit? This can make a huge difference.

He's exactly right, this can make a big difference.

Also are you pinning your shoulders back? Imagine hugging the bench with your lats if you can.......

This was my problem and once I fixed this my issues went away, well that along with some ART treatment.
 
I found my shoulder pain came from flaring my elbows too much on too wide of a grip. It was making me bring the weight away from the chest and more toward my shoulders/neck
 
I found my shoulder pain came from flaring my elbows too much on too wide of a grip. It was making me bring the weight away from the chest and more toward my shoulders/neck

The width of the grip does have some bearing on shoulder recruitment but the elbow flare is the big culprit in this case. Even with a wider grip always try to keep the elbows locked in as much as possible.

Using a slightly narrower grip should help with elbow flaring and will still target the upper pecs nicely.
 
The width of the grip does have some bearing on shoulder recruitment but the elbow flare is the big culprit in this case. Even with a wider grip always try to keep the elbows locked in as much as possible.

Using a slightly narrower grip should help with elbow flaring and will still target the upper pecs nicely.

Precisely
 
When you are doing incline work......what's the bars path? Is it straight up? Or is it up and out a bit? This can make a huge difference.

Pretty much straight up yes.

Also are you pinning your shoulders back? Imagine hugging the bench with your lats if you can.......

I believe I am, however I will be more cognoscente of it and 'hug the bench with my lats'. Thanks big guy!

Awesome having your daughter in there with you bud!!

Where is your shoulder pain? Also are you doing these on the smith machine?

with some ART treatment.

Ya it was pretty awesome to have her in there with me. She just absorbed it all too. Her friends think I'm cool because I love working out, and encourage her so much. lol

Left shoulder only and I would say right under the front delt.

At times I will do them on a smith, but usually (and today) was free weight.

ART treatment?


Another hockey fan! I'm in!

Welcome brother. Hockey great sport going...

I found my shoulder pain came from flaring my elbows too much on too wide of a grip. It was making me bring the weight away from the chest and more toward my shoulders/neck

Thanks for the input, I am going to push some light weight tomorrow and see if these things are causing it.

The width of the grip does have some bearing on shoulder recruitment but the elbow flare is the big culprit in this case. Even with a wider grip always try to keep the elbows locked in as much as possible.

Using a slightly narrower grip should help with elbow flaring and will still target the upper pecs nicely.

Again, thanks Montana (in fact thanks all). Will narrow it up, hug the bench, and push out a little more.
 
coming in too narrow of a grip will target triceps more tho..
for upper chest development, I am huge proponent of touching bar to neck - very top of chest plate
for this, you need elbows out slightly somewhat, or it will indeed turn into a close-grip tri movement
just like I enjoy changing up exercises/reps/tempo etc frequently, I also enjoy moving hands around slightly, shifting the angle worked somewhat, to ensure total area development .. total mind-muscle connection will ensure you are targeting the intended bodypart, and minimizing assisting muscles
 
coming in too narrow of a grip will target triceps more tho..
for upper chest development, I am huge proponent of touching bar to neck - very top of chest plate
for this, you need elbows out slightly somewhat, or it will indeed turn into a close-grip tri movement
just like I enjoy changing up exercises/reps/tempo etc frequently, I also enjoy moving hands around slightly, shifting the angle worked somewhat, to ensure total area development .. total mind-muscle connection will ensure you are targeting the intended bodypart, and minimizing assisting muscles

I am going to try some light inclines this evening as it is a day off and get the form a better. Really focus on the mind / muscle as you mentioned.
 
01/06/2014

Was an off day, but did go in the garage for a short stint of cold.

Took the advice of everyone and worked on the form a little for some inclines (went light). Did 4-5 sets imagining my lats wrapping around the bench.. medium grip, and kept elbows in a bit more. Of course my shoulder still hurts, but I do think with these tips that will dissipate.


01/07/2014

Brutally cold out, and most surfaces are just covered in ice. I really need to take a look at my treadmill again this evening. The belt keeps slipping every time I try to either jog, or walk faster. I have done all the adjustments that should alleviate the problem but it is still doing the same thing and that just makes everything frustrating. But solving the problem would definitely help on days like today.

Back / Calves this evening.
 
Left shoulder only and I would say right under the front delt.
I can't be sure, obviously, if it's referred pain or not from an underlying issue, but a suggestion would be to take a lacrosse ball to the area the hurts and try mashing it out. If the pain is referred, or "reflective" pain, this won't help. Should it not help, you'll know there is something somewhere else (probably within the shoulder) that is causing the pain.
 
I can't be sure, obviously, if it's referred pain or not from an underlying issue, but a suggestion would be to take a lacrosse ball to the area the hurts and try mashing it out. If the pain is referred, or "reflective" pain, this won't help. Should it not help, you'll know there is something somewhere else (probably within the shoulder) that is causing the pain.

Will give that a go later.. got a few lacrosse balls hanging around from when my son played box lacrosse.

Thanks Dave..
 
I'm sure the cold weather isn't helping either. All my fingers and both knees hurt like a mofo from previous hockey injuries.
 
coming in too narrow of a grip will target triceps more tho..
for upper chest development, I am huge proponent of touching bar to neck - very top of chest plate
for this, you need elbows out slightly somewhat, or it will indeed turn into a close-grip tri movement
just like I enjoy changing up exercises/reps/tempo etc frequently, I also enjoy moving hands around slightly, shifting the angle worked somewhat, to ensure total area development .. total mind-muscle connection will ensure you are targeting the intended bodypart, and minimizing assisting muscles

Bar to neck? Ouch. That sounds like a solid shoulder pop on my right side. I usually have issues going to high on the torso. I will try this though tomorrow. Doing some chest and back to come back from my Gym sabbatical.
 
Ok sorry misunderstood, as I have been travelling the bar up (not out).

Perhaps elbows are flaring, and not digging into the bench enough (hugging with lats) then.

I have a huge sway issue when I bench, which is costing me poundage. But I have become used to babying my right shoulder popping, and just kind of throw it up like a madman.
 
Bar to neck? Ouch. That sounds like a solid shoulder pop on my right side. I usually have issues going to high on the torso. I will try this though tomorrow. Doing some chest and back to come back from my Gym sabbatical.

Often called the guillotine press. Definitely hits the upper chest and delt/pec tie ins quite nicely. I personally do most of my presses to the neck or natural grip since I'm so lower chest dominant.
 
Bar to neck? Ouch. That sounds like a solid shoulder pop on my right side. I usually have issues going to high on the torso. I will try this though tomorrow. Doing some chest and back to come back from my Gym sabbatical.

Trust in Snags... only takes one look at him to know the dude knows his sh*t

I'm sure the cold weather isn't helping either. All my fingers and both knees hurt like a mofo from previous hockey injuries.

Ya my knees and lower back are messed up from hockey (and surgery from it).. cold doesn't help, but damp weather is worse.

Often called the guillotine press. Definitely hits the upper chest and delt/pec tie ins quite nicely. I personally do most of my presses to the neck or natural grip since I'm so lower chest dominant.

I remember doing these when I did Gironda 8x8 with you last year.
 
Damn seems like there's a lot of hockey injuries. My knees and hips are the worst, luckily no surgeries for me.
 
I would be less sour about mine if the knee wasnt career ending and due to an opposing player who took a swipe at it because he couldnt catch me
 
What college did you play for? Were you gonna go pro?

It happened prior to me going to Michigan State (scholarship). I was playing in a pan-am u18 tournament in Toronto. I am not mad over all though, I have a good education to rely on now if the economy ever turns around.
 
It happened prior to me going to Michigan State (scholarship). I was playing in a pan-am u18 tournament in Toronto. I am not mad over all though, I have a good education to rely on now if the economy ever turns around.
Michigan state! Nice, I almost went there for hockey but choose IU because all my friends were going there. Now I wish I would of went to MS or another good hockey school to see where I could of ended up.
 
Ok... 1/7/2014 ..cont'd

Got home from work downed some Stimul8, with 4 max pump uncapped and my creatrona. Then made some BCAASAA in the shaker and headed out to the freezer. Accidentally knocked over my shaker and a little spilled, froze instantly to the wooden work bench that I use for my notebook, etc.

Mountain Training - Program 3
Week 4 - Phase 2 - BACK, Calves

Couple of new exercises for me on this day. Always fun to learn something new and really feel it work.

One-Arm Barbell Rows - (new)
35x20/20
70x8/8
80x8/8
90x8/8
95x8/8
100x8/8

- bar in corner, standing beside it, hard stretch in the lower lat.


Partial Pulldown - (new)
200x8
210x8
220x8
230x8
240x7

- heavy pulldowns pulled to forehead (I went to my nose)
- 1-2 second stretch at the top
- wide grip


Cable low row w/wide grip
120x10
130x10
140x10
140x10

- palms facing
- hard squeeze on the pull

Dumbbell Pullovers
60x12
60x12
60x12

- lying on bench, with head hanging off end
- dumbbell rises just to top of forehead before descending again

* the last 3 reps of these I actually felt my triceps a little so form must have slipped.

Hyperextension with a band (new and difficult to do with my set up but I was able to hook my legs under the hand grips of my new bench I got at Christmas)
3 sets to failure (10-14 reps per set)


Calf Raises
165x15
185x15
205x15
205x15
225x15
235x10, 10 partials

- go to a weight that can't do 15 and get a solid 10, add 10 partials out of the deep stretch position
- good stretch at bottom, hard flex at the top

...Most of the workout I was pretty fired up and forgot about the cold. But towards the end the sweat was starting to freeze, which made things a little uncomfortable.

I did get my treadmill fixed to the point that I can now at least do some good incline fast walking (if I cannot run outdoors). So cardio was:

30 minutes - 4mph, incline at 3/5/7 changing every minute. I dare say I was no longer cold.
 
I would be less sour about mine if the knee wasnt career ending and due to an opposing player who took a swipe at it because he couldnt catch me

Mine was a cross check in front of the net... chest hit crossbar/skates caught in goalies pads and i bent the wrong way.

It happened prior to me going to Michigan State (scholarship). I was playing in a pan-am u18 tournament in Toronto. I am not mad over all though, I have a good education to rely on now if the economy ever turns around.

Michigan nice! That must have been a great tournie
 
Mine was a cross check in front of the net... chest hit crossbar/skates caught in goalies pads and i bent the wrong way.

That sounds crappy dude! I had similar to that too. Wasn't a breakaway, but on a fast break I cut to the net and caught an edge on some bad ice and slammed the post with my neck/shoulder. No real damage after a few days, but still could have been bad lol.
 
That sounds crappy dude! I had similar to that too. Wasn't a breakaway, but on a fast break I cut to the net and caught an edge on some bad ice and slammed the post with my neck/shoulder. No real damage after a few days, but still could have been bad lol.

Yes it was weird. I was ok after a couple of weeks, then almost a year later my sciatic nerve was killing my left leg. The hit had fragmented the disk. And you are right anything to do with neck that stops you cold could potentially turn out horrible.
 
1/8/2014

Upon Rising: BCAA/SAA

After work: Stimul8/Max Pump/Creatrona immediately followed by a 5km run (outdoors).

- Run was cold, but not too bad. Very icy though which actually made the run go faster, as I had to concentrate on a few feet in front of me at all times.


Mountain Training - Program 3
Week 4 - Phase 2 - ARMS

Rope Pushdowns - 30 seconds rest
90x12
90x12
90x12

Vbar Pushdowns - 1 minute rest
90x20
100x15
110x12
120x10
120x8

Kickbacks with pronated grip - 30 seconds rest (both arms performed at same time)
25x8
25x8
25x8
30x8
30x6,2

Bent Over Rope Extensions
100x15
100x15
100x15
100x15
100x13,2


Cross Body Dumbbell Curls - supinated grip
30x10/10
30x10/10
35x10/10
35x8,2/9,1

EZ Bar Preacher Curl - 3 second decent
80x8
85x8
85x8
85x8

EZ Bar Curls - 3 second decent
85x6
95x6
95x6
95x6 -- these were not all done with 3 second decent (probably more like 2)

Reverse EZ Curls - 1 second squeeze at the top
55x20
55x16,4
55x13,5,2


Fantastic workout. I do not think my arms have ever been quite so pumped. Brutally sore, even as I sit here doing this update 2 hours later.

Back DOMS also present from yesterday.


Rest day tomorrow from weights, but will likely go for a run. In fact, I will probably run each day for the next 7-10 to make up for some that I missed due to the extreme cold.

....now where is my G8!
 
01/09/2014

Long day at work, deploying machines. Thankfully was a day off. I did start the day with a 5km run.

With this MD setup tomorrow is actually another day off , however I might start using a 2on 1off platform instead of 2on 1off 2on 2off.
 
01/09/2014

Long day at work, deploying machines. Thankfully was a day off. I did start the day with a 5km run.

With this MD setup tomorrow is actually another day off , however I might start using a 2on 1off platform instead of 2on 1off 2on 2off.

Whatever your body is tellin ya! I think the idea for 2 on 1 off, 2 on 2 off is good. Personally I don't think I've ever done it.. Usually just use weekends for off time. But I can see how the rest would lead to much better recover and gains, and Protect the cns. But not very many of us like our rest days here on am lol
 
You aren't lazy by any means, Simon.

Besides, you got in some cardio.
 
01/09/2014 Long day at work, deploying machines. Thankfully was a day off. I did start the day with a 5km run. With this MD setup tomorrow is actually another day off , however I might start using a 2on 1off platform instead of 2on 1off 2on 2off.

I listened to a great interview with Meadows yesterday, where he was talking about working with PLers and their scheduled deloads. His point was exactly like Ched ^^ said, listen to your body.

I swear Simon since I really revamped my Peri- workout nutrition I haven't been sore much at all. Granted when I do feel run down I'll just take a day and pick up the next day.

You will know when a break is needed. I'm currently doing 2 on 1 off 3on 1 off.
 
You aren't lazy by any means, Simon.

Besides, you got in some cardio.

Thanks Thomas. Just a mind set really. Need to learn to let go a little and just let myself unwind.

I listened to a great interview with Meadows yesterday, where he was talking about working with PLers and their scheduled deloads. His point was exactly like Ched ^^ said, listen to your body.

I swear Simon since I really revamped my Peri- workout nutrition I haven't been sore much at all. Granted when I do feel run down I'll just take a day and pick up the next day.

You will know when a break is needed. I'm currently doing 2 on 1 off 3on 1 off.

I think I am going to roll with 2 on 1 off, for now see how it goes. And as you said if I need an extra day I will take one. Was that interview on MDD website? I gotta join.

I know I sound like broken record here, but ....
rest is essential!

I know. It is a strange thing, as I know you would listen to your body to know when you need rest. And I think I do, but at times, I likely dont.
 
1/10/2014

Had the day off work today, but was still a busy one.

Up early and out the door for a 5km run. More snow over night (getting a little tired of this lol) but at least the temp was hovering around 0 celsius. I am already looking forward to spring or at least an elapse in the snowfall.

Then cleaned the house while my wife was at work (I know nice guy), went to a couple of grocery stores, then hit up legs. Had a great session.

Mountain Training - Program 3
Week 5 - Phase 2 - LEGS

Lying Leg Curls
70x10
70x10
80x10
80x10
80x10
90x10
90x10, drop 75x8, drop 55x8


Smith Squats with Bands - use last weeks weight (sets of 10) and add 50-100 and see how many reps you can get in.
135x8
205x8
215x10 (same weight as last week)
285x7
285x6
285x4

- that was rough.

Barbell Squats - form to parallel, 3 second decent
155x8
185x8
205x10
215x8
225x6

Hack Squats
185x10
215x10
230x10, drop 205x10, drop 165x10


Dumbbell Stiff Leg Deadlift
70's x 12
70's x 12
70's x 12
 
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