LETRO AND FORMERON FOR GYNO

[BigFranco]

I've just received my liquid letro and about to start to try get rid of a small lump I got from a 500mg test e cycle without an AI.

Anyway I stopped the cycle when I noticed it which was about the 11th week and it's been about 4 weeks since then (only just been able to get letro).

From the moment I noticed it I've been on 20mg tamoxifen everyday and the last 2 weeks I've been using Black Lions Formeron along with the tamox at 2-3 pumps a day.

Question is once I start the letro I no i don't need to keep running the tamox but would it be worthwhile continuing the formeron solely for the purpose of trying to maintain some sort of sex drive? (It does increase free testosterone levels)

And I was going to use formeron once I come off the letro for rebound so could I just continue it the whole way through?
Advice brundel ?

Thanks for any help guys

 

[Lukef2000]

I've just received my liquid letro and about to start to try get rid of a small lump I got from a 500mg test e cycle without an AI.

Anyway I stopped the cycle when I noticed it which was about the 11th week and it's been about 4 weeks since then (only just been able to get letro).

From the moment I noticed it I've been on 20mg tamoxifen everyday and the last 2 weeks I've been using Black Lions Formeron along with the tamox at 2-3 pumps a day.

Question is once I start the letro I no i don't need to keep running the tamox but would it be worthwhile continuing the formeron solely for the purpose of trying to maintain some sort of sex drive? (It does increase free testosterone levels)

And I was going to use formeron once I come off the letro for rebound so could I just continue it the whole way through?
Advice brundel ?

Thanks for any help guys

Id worry about your lump after you complete your post cycle therapy. Taper your letro up .25-.5 EOD until you reach 2.5mg then hold it there until you can see the lump reduce, taper back down and then switch to a suicidal AI. Formeron won't help your libido while in letro as to have a healthy sex drive you need some estrogen. It's just one of those things.

 

[jbryand101b]

.25 ml, then .50ml then .75ml, then the full 1ml. I'd say up it each week.

run the nolva along side the letro.

instead of switching to bro lore with suicide ai's an no suicide ai's, just run a serm while tapering the letro.

inhibit p, bulbine, and Cialis will " help " with your libido.

 

[harbonah]

.25 ml, then .50ml then .75ml, then the full 1ml. I'd say up it each week.

run the nolva along side the letro.

instead of switching to bro lore with suicide ai's an no suicide ai's, just run a serm while tapering the letro.

inhibit p, bulbine, and Cialis will " help " with your libido.

Go this route.

 

[Lukef2000]

.25 ml, then .50ml then .75ml, then the full 1ml. I'd say up it each week.

run the nolva along side the letro.

instead of switching to bro lore with suicide ai's an no suicide ai's, just run a serm while tapering the letro.

inhibit p, bulbine, and Cialis will " help " with your libido.

Lol at bro lore. But here is a bit of bro lore for you, nolva (actually all serms) increases circulating estrogen, letrozole is a non suicidal AI so it only deactivates the enzyme so if you discontinue the AI yet still have increased circulating estrogen from nolva, when the aromatase enzymes reactivate there's quite a high chance of rebound. Switching to a suicidal AI actually kills off the enzyme reducing the risk of rebound exponentially.

 

[harbonah]

Lol at bro lore. But here is a bit of bro lore for you, nolva (actually all serms) increases circulating estrogen, letrozole is a non suicidal AI so it only deactivates the enzyme so if you discontinue the AI yet still have increased circulating estrogen from nolva, when the aromatase enzymes reactivate there's quite a high chance of rebound. Switching to a suicidal AI actually kills off the enzyme reducing the risk of rebound exponentially.

I think I followed what you are trying to imply but the way it was worded could make someone think discontinuing the AI while on a SERM can cause rebound gyno. This is not the case as the SERM "Tamoxifen" will bind to the estrogen receptor as long as it is in the body. Now if you were to Discontinue the SERM abruptly after stopping the AI your theory might hold true. But if one were to lower the SERM use hence the way most taper them I think this should handle most situation's.


Either way we are both talking about theories as there is no hard data to back this up just conjecture based on available data.


Since we are discussing theories I believe most rebound gyno is not actually caused by an abundance of estorgen but rather the up-regulation of the estrogen receptor post androgen use which would also explain the case of gyno while on non aromatizing steroids like epistane for instance.

 

[jbryand101b]

Lol at bro lore. But here is a bit of bro lore for you, nolva (actually all serms) increases circulating estrogen, letrozole is a non suicidal AI so it only deactivates the enzyme so if you discontinue the AI yet still have increased circulating estrogen from nolva, when the aromatase enzymes reactivate there's quite a high chance of rebound. Switching to a suicidal AI actually kills off the enzyme reducing the risk of rebound exponentially.

And your body reacts to the decrease in aromatase by making more, and you still get rebound.

 

[BigFranco]

.25 ml, then .50ml then .75ml, then the full 1ml. I'd say up it each week. run the nolva along side the letro. instead of switching to bro lore with suicide ai's an no suicide ai's, just run a serm while tapering the letro. inhibit p, bulbine, and Cialis will " help " with your libido.

Cheers man, so your saying to continue nolva at 20mg right thought till i taper off the letro then just continue nolva on its own for another couple of weeks and taper it down? Thanks again