Snags gets ginormous with lean clean off-season dream bulk

[snagencyV2.0]

legs are staying pretty vascular these days

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[wasme]

Pretty crazy veinage... how's the tennis game when you are all bulked like that?

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Pretty crazy veinage... how's the tennis game when you are all bulked like that?

sucked LOL
course, hadn't played in like 2 months...was like starting all over again after winter off, almost have to relearn the game

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Gf just used Two Men to get her stuff from the burbs to the city here - they're like 150/hr here but they rocked it out like they were getting paid accordingly. She was really happy with it, so I'm not complaining.

I think the rate is more since they are using 4 guys instead of 2
yeah they seem like legit business, pretty professional actually..always thought they were cheesy for some reason, I dunno one of those silly preconceptions you get for one reason or another that is based on absolutely nothing LOL
had a friend recommend them for the move, pretty glad he did

 

[Hyde]

I actually had the exact same unfounded notion, but when I mentioned them to others after they made it so easy for her it sounds like other people have heard really good things too.

Legs looking sick!

 

[snagencyV2.0]

UPDATES:

all right, figured this was good time for first weekly update on the state of things...
so it's been going pretty well - training has simply been phenomenal day-in/day-out; body comp has been solid/leanness maintained, weight gain accomplished; and cals have been ramped up in conservative fashion (yet still a bit more accelerated than originally planned)

all that said: I see ways to improve this thing
and it's all based around increasing caloric load a bit more aggressively and substantially, due to the fact weight has been static for couple days now, and in fact lost a pound overnight last night, despite going up slightly in cals...metabolism is simply on fire and stoked currently

so, today will consume ~4500 cals, 585g carbs, and 75g fats -- as we raise the cal/carb load, fats can't help but increase a very small amount, as typically there is still small amount of fats in even the driest carb sources I have; altho, I did pick up some more beans, a blend that contains 0 fat, and will be consuming quite a bit of sirloin with these for awhile going forward
my plan now is to be ~5000cals by this sunday or Monday, and touching 6000 by the following week after that -- altho all this eating is fun as hell, ima have to split things into another feeding I think, as meals are now all coming up on exceeding 800cals per, and will be getting a bit larger than what I want to consume at one time before too long

on the training: again even tho this has been just outstanding, and even tho strength has been on turbo boost, and even tho I am adding size -- I want even more of all the aforementioned
so, after this last day of the split tomorrow and rest day following, I will be going to a 5-day split, 1-basic-bodypart-per-day protocol that I have always found to work extremely well for growth...I just want to bring more isolated muscle group volume to the forefront, and really squeeze all avenues for growth here in the final stages of grow time

I say "final stages of grow time", and what I refer to is the hormonal run; however, in all honestly I have some really cool things planned for a killer PCT period, and see no reason why I cannot continue to push the cals/training, and continue the growth cycle, thruout PCT (and beyond for that matter)...seriously
we'll see how it goes, but I'm pretty confident how this is all gonna turn out

anyway, there you have it, first update in the books -- look forward to some great progresss to report on in the next update, gentlemen

 

[Montego1]

Awesome update.

So you will be going to seven meals a day? Decreasing time between meals or adding a before bed feeding?

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Awesome update.

So you will be going to seven meals a day? Decreasing time between meals or adding a before bed feeding?

right, would be 7 meals/day
decrease in time between meals (2.5hrs roughly instead of current 3hrs), adding another meal somewhere in day and not disrupting bedtime shake - which, the shake is now slightly over 500cals and will always be my smallest "meal" of the day

will have to happen at some point, esp once I get towards 6k cal load...just no way i'll want to be eating 1000cal+ meals, meal-in/meal-out

 

[chefbo]

off to ablazing start as usual steve . Good luck you need to write a book on cycle setup because you got it down brother!

 

[snagencyV2.0]

little shot of dinner #2 tonight
this looks kinda messy (well it is actually lol -- wasn't supposed to look like this) but tasty as hell
was 1/2 Hormel wrap (pepper steak & cheese) with 4oz ground turkey breast - and on the wrap under all that meat is 1 TBS bbq sauce+dijon mustard+wasabi...2 servings tri-blend beans, salad with dressing+pineapple, and 1 serving tomato basil triscuits+1 serving spicy buffalo wheat thins

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I should have used the full Hormel wrap, but it had 10g fat in it, and I wanted to fit in a triscuit/wheat thin combo tonight, which has 9g fat in both combined - which gets me out of my allotted fat range intake zone; so, cut a wrap in half (still thought I could load it up and roll it back up, yeah right what was I thinking )...on the wrap, aside from sprucing it up with sauce mix, also added some finely chopped green pepper...and on the salad, I never been a big combine-fruit-and-salad type guy at all, but last night I threw a piece of pineapple in the salad and surprisingly it was pretty damn tasty; so, I eliminated the croutons this evening (reducing fat intake by 1g lol), and tossed both slices of pineapple I had in there -- never would have thought of this it it hadn't been for the raspberry merlot dressing I been using, something about that+pineapple combined just sounded refreshing (and, it was!)

cals for this meal: 845, macros 120/55/16.5

 

[snagencyV2.0]

time for some food porn

since I was up insanely early this morning (ran fasted LISS @30min upon rising, followed with fantastic breakfast), decided I wanted an addtl meal in me before I hit the weight training session, instead of just having breakfast as my preWO meal; so, had this little gem:

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6oz chunk light tuna w/ salsa, peppers
4oz 93% ground turkey w/ 1/2 TBS bbq sauce
.5c brown rice
natty PB (.5 TBS) and strawberry preserve (1 TBS) sandwich on 2 slices toasted Ezekiel
3 plain rice cakes
895cals, 110/75/15.5



this followed breakfast, which as mentioned was just wonderful: (no pic)
2.5 servings steel-cut oats w/ 135g banana+.5 scoop isolate+2/3c almond milk
5oz 96% lean beef
1 slice toasted Ezekiel cinnamon raisin bread
860cals, 120/65/15



dinner here this evening:

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2 slices toasted wheat bread
4oz ground turkey breast+2oz ham+2oz white turkey meat+red bell pepper
covered with 1oz philly cream cheese+1 TBS bbq sauce (loving this bbq sauce, yum)
1 serving roasted garlic parmesan potatoes
salad+raspberry merlot dressing+2 slices pineapple
875cals, 120/70/16


total cals for day after (early) bedtime shake will be ~4675 -- and, we have broken the 600g carb mark fellas, barely but still..
macros will be 605/395/75

been having a hankering for some cream cheese (haven't had this in at least 2yrs) ever since I been eating the bbq sauce...wanted to taste the mix on one of my big meaty sandwiches -- it did not disappoint, was delish

you can see, so long as you stay within your working cal range, and are using majority clean micros for your sources, you can actually get a lot of play and fit some semi-questionable choices in here & there occasionally

 

[Hyde]

Wish I could eat like that & not gain fat right now!!!

Clear your inbox homie.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Wish I could eat like that & not gain fat right now!!!

Clear your inbox homie.

cleared
and, i'm having the opposite problem right now, not growing as quickly as I anticipated/want to


so, with the above in mind, have made some small adjustments to the dietary course
in essence, I simply have to increase the fat levels some, being so low is hindering me...idea was to stay lean and fairly dry while I grew, but too little fat in the mix is detrimental to the growth process..i am not necessarily a fan of calculating/planning my meals by macro "splits" ie ratios; rather, I just use ratios as a general guideline to loosely get an idea of how much of a given macronutrient I will want to consume based on cal load
but now, looking at more of a traditional split to base things off of, I settled on roughly a 50/30/20 course, and the cal load gets some stability as well for a good 1/2 week to a week as we see how this plays out
so, on off days now (which is today as I take 2 consecutive days off) cals come in ~4500, roughly 560/340/100
on training days cals will be ~5000, roughly 625/375/110
4-7 days on this stable plan, we will assess from there

the obvious advantage right off the top with this bump in fats, is more flexibility (and fun for that matter lol)...it will allow me, if I continue to use lean meats, to get quite a bit more carb sources in play - like more brown rice triscuits @4.5g fat per serving, and my Popped! flavored mini rice cakes (which are roughly same construct as triscuits ie 4.5g fat/21g carbs/130cals per serving)...will also allow me, if I wish to use a fattier cut meat, to eat some ground sirloin (~2.6g fat per ounce) and not-ridiculously-lean steaks




had this nice meal last night - under those 3 egg whites there is the other half of that Hormel wrap, along with 4oz ground turkey breast, slice of pepperjack cheese, bbq sauce mix, and diced orange bell peppers; and 2 servings beans on the side, 1 serving red bean brown rice triscuits, 2 white cheddar rice cakes, and salad/pineapple
~880cals, 110/70/16.5

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[scw538]

nice solid flooring bro - and sound-proof as hell, I mean you do not even hear traffic outside let alone anything else, pretty tight! it's like a tomb in there, just the way I like it
as for moving - yeah for sure, actually i'm hiring 2 men & a truck, only will be 4 men so 2 can stay down & load into elevator/keep eye on truck, and 2 can transport up/load into crib..should take no longer than 4hrs all told, from packing up my house to unloading everything
which is good, cuz rate is $200/hr :rant:

Snag congrats on move. Watch all your furniture 2 men and a truck scratched the sh&& out of a piece of furniture. When I asked them they said I thought you had a cat. I almost killed the dude.

 

[Montego1]

Snag congrats on move. Watch all your furniture 2 men and a truck scratched the sh&& out of a piece of furniture. When I asked them they said I thought you had a cat. I almost killed the dude.

Lol. My cat isn't a Lion fuker!

 

[drewsicle3210]

1st Today!!

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Snag congrats on move. Watch all your furniture 2 men and a truck scratched the sh&& out of a piece of furniture. When I asked them they said I thought you had a cat. I almost killed the dude.

LOL not really worried about it my man
I really need to replace some of my furniture anyway..not the tv or things like that, but couches/entertainment center etc, they been around forever and the couches especially have taken a beating with wear & tear from kids growing up
in a perfect world, would just throw out these now and buy some new pieces, but I've had a sh1t-ton of expense lately and now is not the time to be spending more $ furniture, when I got stuff that still works just fine

Lol. My cat isn't a Lion fuker!

i'm thinking of getting rid of my cat too - i'll be traveling some here & there for days at a time, and don't want to have to worry about having someone come in & take care of cat, or boarding him somewhere..plus, fukker is shedding something fierce, I don't want all that hair floating around the new joint either
making all kinds of lifestyle changes here, hahaa - 42 is a new snags




speaking of new: I look like a new guy, seriously beefy and filled out this morning....had me a cheaty night last night, got cals up to ~8500 (just to play around and feel it), didn't stay the cleanest (lot of simple sugar/some fats on large portion of the extra cals), really just wanted to see how my anabolic stack would allow the excess to be sucked up, so call it an experimental foray; weight was ~206 upon rising this morning
backing up that with ~5200 planned cals this day (already made out my menu for rest of day) as i'm staying aggressive with the steady caloric increases - but, we stay clean today and go back to strategic simple carb loads/timings, surrounding training, which was chest this day (and a pretty phenomenally strong session it was, too, wow...skipped abs, but did do 30min LISS upon waking in separate session from chest)
will be interesting to see the fallout from these cals over the next few days, anticipating it highly

 

[snagencyV2.0]

today's eating breakdown
i'm rounding up or down respectively on protein/carbs, to nearest 5 (ease of use)
fats are exact per meal


#1 breakfast
920cals, 115/60/23

*preWO shake 235cals, 35/20/1
*postWO shake 500cals, 70/40/6

#2 postWO meal
900cals, 130/65/11.5

#3 midday shake
765cals, 75/65/23.5

#4 dinner 1
705cals, 80/70/13.5

#5 dinner 2
810cals, 100/50/23

#6 bedtime shake
430cals, 30/50/10


TOTALS:
5165cals, 635/420/111.5




whew, that's a lot of food

 

[Hyde]

Growin like a weed!

 

[1ifeblood]

Those are some massive meals!

 

[Lukef2000]

Those are some massive meals!

Lol yep three of his meals are my whole daily macros at the moment.... Actually 2.5...

 

[Nooshefx]

TOTALS:
5165cals, 635/420/111.5




whew, that's a lot of food

5165 cals!!! I would be hospitalized!

 

[aceroni]

Those are some massive meals!

Lol yep three of his meals are my whole daily macros at the moment.... Actually 2.5...

5165 cals!!! I would be hospitalized!

No offense to anyone (especially snags.. He knows his body better than most people and i'm confident he knows what he's doing)

But


Holy sh1t you guys.. It's not THAT much food..
You guys need to man up and eat more... Especially if you're on cycle. Jeez.

 

[Lukef2000]

No offense to anyone (especially snags.. He knows his body better than most people and i'm confident he knows what he's doing)

But

Holy sh1t you guys.. It's not THAT much food..
You guys need to man up and eat more... Especially if you're on cycle. Jeez.

Lol I'm cutting at the moment, that's why I'm on low cals. Your deft right tho snags knows his body better than most!

 

[snagencyV2.0]

No offense to anyone (especially snags.. He knows his body better than most people and i'm confident he knows what he's doing)

But


Holy sh1t you guys.. It's not THAT much food..
You guys need to man up and eat more... Especially if you're on cycle. Jeez.

ahahaaa...well man, these things are always relative of course
on the overall picture, sure I agree with you, that really isn't all THAT many cals to be eating..
comparatively speaking tho, when most around here are trying to improve bodycomp or lose weight (so gross excess caloric ingestion is not conducive to this), or when you compare the fact I just came out of bb'ing show prep and was down to ~2200-2300cals there for a minute a very short while ago --- then it DOES look like a lot of food, quite simply

remember tho: i'm still working on getting to 6kcals, which is still ~20% more food then I am eating here...
now THAT is getting up there, no matter how you slice it

 

[Montego1]

ahahaaa...well man, these things are always relative of course
on the overall picture, sure I agree with you, that really isn't all THAT many cals to be eating..
comparatively speaking tho, when most around here are trying to improve bodycomp or lose weight (so gross excess caloric ingestion is not conducive to this), or when you compare the fact I just came out of bb'ing show prep and was down to ~2200-2300cals there for a minute a very short while ago --- then it DOES look like a lot of food, quite simply

remember tho: i'm still working on getting to 6kcals, which is still ~20% more food then I am eating here...
now THAT is getting up there, no matter how you slice it

Not if you slice it 6000 ways. ....

 

[kenpoengineer]

Still learning about my nutrition and wanted your take on Tdee. Calculating Tdee requires one to use height, weight and activity level. Should the "weight" used be total weight or weight corrected to remove fat content? Also, as lifters, what "activity level" should be used? "Moderate" activity level I think is wrong for me lifting for an hour and then sitting at a desk for 8 hours. Opinion? Snags, do you use this?

 

[hvactech]

Still learning about my nutrition and wanted your take on Tdee. Calculating Tdee requires one to use height, weight and activity level. Should the "weight" used be total weight or weight corrected to remove fat content? Also, as lifters, what "activity level" should be used? "Moderate" activity level I think is wrong for me lifting for an hour and then sitting at a desk for 8 hours. Opinion? Snags, do you use this?

My tdee calculations always seem off from real world results

 

[kenpoengineer]

My tdee calculations always seem off from real world results

Agree with this^^. If I stick to Tdee I respond with fat gain in the stomach area. Snags, keep or ditch Tdee?

 

[hvactech]

His opinion is biast being his bmr is naturally higher just from "being snags"

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Agree with this^^. If I stick to Tdee I respond with fat gain in the stomach area. Snags, keep or ditch Tdee?

yeah I don't use any of those "calculations" for bmr or energy expenditure
i'm very old-school, and intuitive - track my progress daily based on painstaking recording of all caloric/activity levels in past, so I have a guide that is for me and me alone
to get going at first yrs ago, I did use generic guideline of 15-20cals/lb of lean bodyweight for gaining (mine came in ~20), and 12-15cals/lb of lean bodyweight for cutting (again mine was personalized ~14 or so)

His opinion is biast being his bmr is naturally higher just from "being snags"

I do have a naturally high bmr, and good metabolism for sure
lucky, I am - genetically blessed (but NOT a genetic freak, trust me)

 

[Distilled Water]

yeah I don't use any of those "calculations" for bmr or energy expenditure
i'm very old-school, and intuitive - track my progress daily based on painstaking recording of all caloric/activity levels in past, so I have a guide that is for me and me alone
to get going at first yrs ago, I did use generic guideline of 15-20cals/lb of lean bodyweight for gaining (mine came in ~20), and 12-15cals/lb of lean bodyweight for cutting (again mine was personalized ~14 or so)

I second this^^^^^

Been doing this since my last show based of the my past year or so of eating (and talking with my new coach)

Calories are a lot lower than in the past. Fat gain is nearly non existent and I'm growing. My TDEE has me about 550 cals more/day than I am currently eating according to most calculators.

Decent reference point for some, far from accurate IMO.

 

[aceroni]

ahahaaa...well man, these things are always relative of course
on the overall picture, sure I agree with you, that really isn't all THAT many cals to be eating..
comparatively speaking tho, when most around here are trying to improve bodycomp or lose weight (so gross excess caloric ingestion is not conducive to this), or when you compare the fact I just came out of bb'ing show prep and was down to ~2200-2300cals there for a minute a very short while ago --- then it DOES look like a lot of food, quite simply

remember tho: i'm still working on getting to 6kcals, which is still ~20% more food then I am eating here...
now THAT is getting up there, no matter how you slice it

Actually I am very surprised you bumped them up that fast after your show with minimal fat gain.

yeah I don't use any of those "calculations" for bmr or energy expenditure
i'm very old-school, and intuitive - track my progress daily based on painstaking recording of all caloric/activity levels in past, so I have a guide that is for me and me alone
to get going at first yrs ago, I did use generic guideline of 15-20cals/lb of lean bodyweight for gaining (mine came in ~20), and 12-15cals/lb of lean bodyweight for cutting (again mine was personalized ~14 or so)
I do have a naturally high bmr, and good metabolism for sure
lucky, I am - genetically blessed (but NOT a genetic freak, trust me)

I'm the same way, although I don't write anything down I know where i'm at for the day and I adjust my macros as needed for weight loss /gain.

I'd recommend doing that over any kind of calculation.. Once you figure out where you need to be your body will respond well

 

[Hyde]

I really don't feel so bad about how I've been doing it over the last couple years now. I stopped tracking my calories & fats, & even my protein - I know that in off-time as long as I get at least 30g of p over 6-7 meals each day, I'll have enough to recover well/maintain, & I often eat far more than that (often 1.6g/lb of bw) even in off time. Carbs I've been paying much more attention to, but in general, I just listen to my body. If I'm getting fatter, I know no matter what I'm eating too much, too often, or too many carbs (or fat) at the wrong points in the day for me.

I know that's not remotely what Snags is actually doing here (it's 100x more intricate), but I'm saying that all the calculators in the world can't change what happens in real life, like Ken's finding out. If you're getting fatter or smaller against your will you need to pay attention & be intelligent/reactive.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Actually I am very surprised you bumped them up that fast after your show with minimal fat gain.

yeah, was going along just fine....but tbh I really pushed the envelope with that cheaty free-eats window the other night, I mean yeah I filled out and looked like a slab of granite and all, but it wasn't quite as hard as I want to be staying, and I am still bloated here today a bit, and veins are just now starting to come back after going into hiding
won't be doing anything outside the plan again -- but it was worthwhile to experiment, won't know unless you try it :shrug:

I'm saying that all the calculators in the world can't change what happens in real life, like Ken's finding out. If you're getting fatter or smaller against your will you need to pay attention & be intelligent/reactive.

BOOM exactly
intelligent & reactive, not continuing to bang your head against the wall cuz wonderful XYZ formula says this is what you should be doing
too many just blindly follow such nonsense, simply because they don't know any better, or don't take the time to learn their own body

 

[snagencyV2.0]

well..(ahem)..I know I was supposed to stay at same cal range this day, and I was on track - despite swapping a few things out here & there for other options to get some different variety in (got some good amounts of natty pb & almond butters in the mix), they were all apples-to-apples exchanges on cals and macros....and then, as I was preparing dinner #1, I noticed I had couple sweet potatoes I better get to eating soon before they go bad, so decided to toss a 7oz one in with that meal
bottom line: 200cal increase this day, puts me just shy of 5400 for day
totals: 5390cals, 685/410/111
we move along; next up is breaking the 700g carb barrier

can't wait for tomorrow, plan to bake me up some sweet potato fries - looking forward to that!

 

[aceroni]

plan to bake me up some sweet potato fries - looking forward to that!

You'll hit 700 carbs easy with these made

 

[IrishSoldier]

Eat big, lift big, sleep big?!?!?! Yep

 

[snagencyV2.0]

You'll hit 700 carbs easy with these made

couple small additions to first two feedings of the day here this morning will ensure I get over that amount also, will be over 5500cals for day too when all said and done
I've adapted really well to the larger meals now - in fact, with the exception of one meal, none of them really fill me up any longer, leaves me hungry still
the one meal that does fill me up is still a mofo getting thru, I mean I feel bloated to hell afterwards, is my postWO meal: typically i'm having a box of mac & cheese+can of tuna+scoop of isolate for this feeding, or i'll have 2/3 box of mac & cheese and fill in the remaining cals/carbs from another source (like potatoes or something)...note: of course I do not use the margarine/butter they call for on the box, nor do I use the milk; I will use 1/2 TBS of real butter, for either the box or the 2/3 serving I am eating, and just the water on the noodles, and dump the tuna in with it -- this keeps the fat lower (among lowest of any feeding for day) while cals on this meal are the highest or at least among the highest of any feeding for the day

 

[aceroni]

couple small additions to first two feedings of the day here this morning will ensure I get over that amount also, will be over 5500cals for day too when all said and done
I've adapted really well to the larger meals now - in fact, with the exception of one meal, none of them really fill me up any longer, leaves me hungry still
the one meal that does fill me up is still a mofo getting thru, I mean I feel bloated to hell afterwards, is my postWO meal: typically i'm having a box of mac & cheese+can of tuna+scoop of isolate for this feeding, or i'll have 2/3 box of mac & cheese and fill in the remaining cals/carbs from another source (like potatoes or something)...note: of course I do not use the margarine/butter they call for on the box, nor do I use the milk; I will use 1/2 TBS of real butter, for either the box or the 2/3 serving I am eating, and just the water on the noodles, and dump the tuna in with it -- this keeps the fat lower (among lowest of any feeding for day) while cals on this meal are the highest or at least among the highest of any feeding for the day

I hear you there. My post workout leaves me feeling rough, although i'm hungry in an hour.

I too like to mix my carb sources.. For example yesterday I mashed some red skin potatoes and added a cup of rice and stirred it together.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I hear you there. My post workout leaves me feeling rough, although i'm hungry in an hour.

I too like to mix my carb sources.. For example yesterday I mashed some red skin potatoes and added a cup of rice and stirred it together.

same here after that big meal, get hungry again ~an hour later lol
nice mix on the potatoes & rice - yeah I love mixing all sources, proteins esp but also carbs even fat sources -- balance and variety is good!
I have some quinoa I think i'll bust out and try for postWO meal, usually like to have that with nice meat source/salad/etc (ie dinner), but maybe won't be quite as filling for me as the noodles

 

[aceroni]

same here after that big meal, get hungry again ~an hour later lol
nice mix on the potatoes & rice - yeah I love mixing all sources, proteins esp but also carbs even fat sources -- balance and variety is good!
I have some quinoa I think i'll bust out and try for postWO meal, usually like to have that with nice meat source/salad/etc (ie dinner), but maybe won't be quite as filling for me as the noodles

I love quinoa

 

[snagencyV2.0]

as it was written, so it came to pass..
went away from the mac&cheese totally today; instead, went with

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1/2c quinoa+1 can tuna+1 yellow bell pepper+1 slice pineapple
1.5c raisin bran+1c almond milk+1 scoop isolate
~950cals, 145/70/15

seemed to go down a little better, tho it was mostly the cereal responsible for this I think (I can maul cereal endlessly, no joke)
quinoa started filling me up tho, still wasn't as bad as the mac&cheese was
nice mix here, may do this for awhile



heyyy, i'm getting kinda big these days..small sneak peek as I hide under this shirt

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weight ~207 upon rising today

 

[wasme]

I can maul cereal endlessly, no joke

heyyy, i'm getting kinda big these days..small sneak peek as I hide under this shirt

At times, cereal feels like the enemy to me. If I buy a box of miniwheets/raisin bran, it is gone in a sitting... not good lol

Looking big and full my friend...

 

[snagencyV2.0]

indeed simon - gotta keep an eye out when cereal is around (especially 42 boxes of it LOL)

here's a bit more representative pic from today, and revealing..you can see by my lower back, I am holding little to no fat down there, in fact could still pop the Christmas tree if I were to pose the right way....very happy with progression!

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[Montego1]

Oh! We got a smirk in the picture! Try showing some teeth next time big homie

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Oh! We got a smirk in the picture! Try showing some teeth next time big homie

choppers coming up next pic, just for you sir

 

[Lukef2000]

indeed simon - gotta keep an eye out when cereal is around (especially 42 boxes of it LOL)

here's a bit more representative pic from today, and revealing..you can see by my lower back, I am holding little to no fat down there, in fact could still pop the Christmas tree if I were to pose the right way....very happy with progression!

Looking massive there snags! Huge, full and still lean as ****! Nice work

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Looking massive there snags! Huge, full and still lean as ****! Nice work

thanks mate -- feelin great!
nice & clean too, fresh outta the shower there in that pic

check out tonight's dinner #2...yum

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main meal/meat portion: 5oz 96% lean beef+2oz mesquite turkey breast deli slices,
sandwiching 1 TBS BBQ sauce mix, and nestled under 2 slices of pineapple
1 can albacore tuna+salsa
salad/dressing/croutons
1.5 servings (128g) sweet potato fries+3 white cheddar rice cakes
~910cals, 110/70/22.5

and made all my totals today, after bedtime shake is consumed in awhile here....barely, but still made it!
5520cals, 715/420/114

off day tomorrow, we'll back the pre/postWO shakes out (~725cals total) and add some cals here & there to other meals
should be ~5k cals total on off day

speaking of my postWO shake:
new format, as we increase the cals overall so too has this increased and been modified, is now 1 rice krispy treat (180cals/only 3g fat)+2 plain rice cakes, each covered with 1 TBS brown rice syrup; also 1 scoop isolate (30g protein/1g fat)
totals 490cals, 75/35/4

the only feeding that has not changed at all up to now but will be next in line to, is preWO shake...going to 1.5 scoops glycomaize next training day instead of 1 scoop (so will be ~52g carbs total), will remain 1 scoop 20g protein isolate however

 

[Montego1]

So much manipulating!