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My Compound Advanced Prime Thermo Pumps Journey

breezy11 said:
Your PRIME dosing looks good man. I'd roll with it unless you'd rather extend your cycle somewhat.

You could play around with your AP/carb timing to help figure out what works best (some people respond faster/slower than others). I'd recommend trying a few different approaches and making note of how you respond with each one. However, if you're prone to feeling hypoglycemic from GDA's, I wouldn't wait too long before eating.
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Thanks, I shall play around with it more

tacticalG said:
Like how you added in strict curls, I'm working on those myself.

Movin' some weight, awesome work!
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Its what I do best :) Thanks gal!

classic34 said:
Foam rolling.... I've never tried it but I know I should. We even have foam rollers at the gym. Thanks for the reminder Movement, I'm going to give it a shot. :)
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I haven't met a person say it hasn't helped them yet
 
There's a few good threads listing the AP protocol for fasted workouts. Ill see if I can fish them up.. Breezy sent them to me a while ago. I will be trying them soon.... Ill be logging my AP usage soon, gotta pick up a few more supps... Probably USP products I just haven't decided what I want to stack.
 
Budman7811 said:
There's a few good threads listing the AP protocol for fasted workouts. Ill see if I can fish them up.. Breezy sent them to me a while ago. I will be trying them soon.... Ill be logging my AP usage soon, gotta pick up a few more supps... Probably USP products I just haven't decided what I want to stack.
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Thanks that will def. help!

They have such an array that id say match your goals and go from there, thats what I did
 
Budman7811 said:
There's a few good threads listing the AP protocol for fasted workouts. Ill see if I can fish them up.. Breezy sent them to me a while ago. I will be trying them soon.... Ill be logging my AP usage soon, gotta pick up a few more supps... Probably USP products I just haven't decided what I want to stack.
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I got it :). Look forward to the log bud. Let me know if you'd like any help coming up with a stack that fits your current goals.


TheMovement said:
Thanks that will def. help!

They have such an array that id say match your goals and go from there, thats what I did
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I would've provided this info prior, but knew that you weren't training fasted. Either way, the links below have some great information on AP and FTP (the Fasted Training Protocol).

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breezy11 said:
I got it :). Look forward to the log bud. Let me know if you'd like any help coming up with a stack that fits your current goals.

I would've provided this info prior, but knew that you weren't training fasted. Either way, the links below have some great information on AP and FTP (the Fasted Training Protocol).

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Thanks... For posting that. I was reading through you log I think page 29 of 100+ it took a while to find it.

EDIT:over 200 pages
 
Thanks guys having ya around makes life easier lol
 
09/14/13

Back Blasting!!!

Just felt huge on this wonderful day. Clear focus and the Alphamale complex were def. pumping me up this day

T-Bar Rows: Homemade design of the close grip low pully handle under a straight bar with the Lat Pulldown bar through eh handles
45x15 (Busted myself in the chest the crap was so light)
90x15
135x12
157x10
205x8 (4-45s and a 25 on the end)

Kayak Rows:
40x15
50x10
60x10
85x8

Explosive Smith Bb Rows:
205x12
205x12
235x12
235x12

Wide Grip Pullups:
x12
x12
x12
x12

Seated Incline Curls:
45x12
45x12
45x12
45x12

UnderHand Low Row:
120x10
160x10
200x10
260x8 (Stack)

Dual Handle Lat Pulldowns: Unilateral x5 each arm then 10 to finish
85x15
85x15
100x15
100x15 (Best Back Burner I have)

Heavy Hammers:
70x8
80x8
90x8
90x8

Went home and got a great 2 mile run in through the woods and down the highway. Finished off with 15 mins of jumping rope. Awesome freaking day overall!
Legs session as well as cardio updates on the way, just tired from all the relaxation of a good weekend
 
breezy11 said:
Your PRIME dosing looks good man. I'd roll with it unless you'd rather extend your cycle somewhat.

You could play around with your AP/carb timing to help figure out what works best (some people respond faster/slower than others). I'd recommend trying a few different approaches and making note of how you respond with each one. However, if you're prone to feeling hypoglycemic from GDA's, I wouldn't wait too long before eating.
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Yeah, if I don't eat after 20-30 minutes I have a jittery feeling and light headed after taking GDA's.
 
Legs And Boulders Touchup

The Touch up only really applied to the shoulders as I went all in on legs and got my feelings hurt lls

Had a long walk and stick work before hitting the gym. Just got some knee wraps and I was dying to try them out.

Leg Press: Light Vs. Heavy
478x10
658x10
748x8
888x8

Wrapped Up:
978x6
1158x5
1298x4
1448xFAIL!

SMDH, lets someone else add up my total and was shooting for just over 1300, but got extremely screwed with the longest negative of my life lol, literally was a 6sec negative so the thing wouldn't bang the machine to pieces. Noob Mistakes dont happen often but we live and learn

Deads:
225x6
315x5
315x5

Smith Z Press:
20x20
70x15
70x15
70x15

Reverse Press:
80x15
80x15
80x15
80x15

Reverse Pec Deck:
85x15
100x15
100x15
100x15

Hamstring Curls:
100x20
145x15
160x15
190x15

Hammer Strength Ab Crunch:
80x20
80x20
80x20

Back Extension: 2sec Pause
x20
x15
x20
x15

Knee Extension: Partial
100x12
130x12
160x12

1 Legged Bridges:
x15
x15
x15

Followed up with some mobility work:
Brettzel x5
Foam Rolling=every damn where
Deep Pirformis Work

Other than getting my knees pushed through my chest I will live lol, was a decent finish overall though and actually felt as though I gained alot from this session.
No soreness or DOMS which is shocking!
 
Back To the fun stuff!

CHEST MONDAY!!!

Incline Dbs:
70x15
80x15
90x12
120x10

Flat Bb Bench: wanted to hit my Bw for reps
235x10
235x12
235x15 Only got stronger as I continued

Curious to where my pause rep 1RM may be so ehh why not!

335x1 Easy
350x1 Pause, Push, no lockout! so fail lol. Will get better at this though

dropped to 225 for max reps
225x21
135x46

Low Pulley Flys:
25x12
30x12
35x12

Crucifix Flys:
30x12
35x12
25x16 (One arm at a time for the 1st 8 then 8 with both)

Weighted Dips:
Bw x 30
45x12
45x12
45x17 Burnout

Pec Deck:
160x15
205x12
235x12
250x12

Skull Crushers:
85x15
125x8 PR for me!
95x15
75x17
55x17 Arms were so freaking tight I thought they would blow, dunno where the rush came from but even now as I type the DOMS fatigue is killer.

BOSU side 2 side PushUps:
x12
x10
x8

Tricep Cable Kickbacks: 2 sec Ext
20x15
25x15
30x10

Today was an awesome chest day overall. Really got in some good numbers and feel alot of growth from this.
 
I conclude this night with although at times Ive felt like my strength has slipped I notice huge gains in other areas. I dont lift as heavy as I need to and will be changing that pretty soon. Another note is that I have been losing weight steadily on about maintenance diet and its time I really hit this thing hard. Prime has me so hungry all day long that its what changes my moods the most. Versa is still up in the air a bit, but no1 can deny the focus effect. CP20 still hasnt fully kicked into gear as this wil be week 2 but I do feel more rounded overall. Just finished my Thermo powder and may be switching to VOLT. Using Craze ATM. Picked up some one a days and joint support on sale so they are being added in as well. Cant wait ot see whats left in store for me!
 
Amazing!!!!
 
Back and Light Bi's
09/17/13

Great day all supplementation went the same on this day. Back was quite full to the point my Lat Spread is scaring me a bit, thing looks like a cape at times! vascularity has definitely kicked up a notch as new pathways are not only seeming to form but grow in diameter as well. Best overall increases in strength thus far are here and definitely above my previous numbers.

PullUps: Bw
Wide: x12, x15
Neutral: x12, x15
Staggered: x8, x8 (One hand wide, another on the neutral, working towards the 1 handers)(8 on one side then 8 on the other)

Lat Pulldown:
120x15
140x15
180x12
200x12
220x10

Kayak Rows:
50x15
65x15
72.5x10

Close Grip Low Rows:
140x12
160x12
200x12
220x10
260x13 Huge PR for pulling this whole stack, even saw black dots after but shucks I did it!

Dual Handle Lat Twist Downs:
100x12
100x12
120x12
120x12

1-Arm Db Row: Longer Stance w/ pull to hip (Kroc Rows???)
100x10
110x10
120x10
120x10

Wide Grip Low Rows:
120x15
140x15
160x15

Biceps:

Cross Body Hammer:
80x10
70x10
60x10

Preacher Curls:
115x12
115x12
115x12

Low Cable Pulley Curls: Unilateral
25x10
30x10
35x10
35x8

This workout was freaking monstrous and every rep just kept getting better and better. Love doing back and it couldn't be responding any better than what it has been. I really need to figure out a way to get a selfie of this ASAP lol
 
2 updates to come in the AM got 2-3 workouts worth and some notes, long workweek and tired as crap but i still gotta put in work!
 
TheMovement said:
2 updates to come in the AM got 2-3 workouts worth and some notes, long workweek and tired as crap but i still gotta put in work!
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Motivation at its finest!!!! :)
 
Ok workouts inbound!
 
Shoulder Boulders 09/18/13

Seated Military Db Press:
70x10
80x10
90x10

Hang Cleans:
135x12
135x12
185x10
185x10
195x10

Smith Military Press:
135x15
135x15
135x15

Db Front Raise:
60x10
50x10
70x10
70x70

Bent Over Raises:
15x15
20x15
20x15

Bb Shrugs:
275x12
315x10
385x10
435x10
225x20

Kept it short and sweet today and really enjoyed the day.
 
TheMovement said:
Shoulder Boulders 09/18/13

Seated Military Db Press:
70x10
80x10
90x10

Hang Cleans:
135x12
135x12
185x10
185x10
195x10

Smith Military Press:
135x15
135x15
135x15

Db Front Raise:
60x10
50x10
70x10
70x70

Bent Over Raises:
15x15
20x15
20x15

Bb Shrugs:
275x12
315x10
385x10
435x10
225x20

Kept it short and sweet today and really enjoyed the day.
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You're always killing it!!!!!!
 
Leg Day Drag Day 09/19/13

0 motivation SIR!

Tired as crap today and the gym is empty as freak so my competitive edge is redlined on the low end today

Treadmill walking on 8% incline for 7mins (hoping for something worth looking at to walk in) (NOTHING)

Front Squats:
135x15
185x15
225x12
245x12

Back Squat: Box was set up just under parallel
225x10
225x8
245x10
275x10
295x10 (Somehow I was able to pump this out but mane did it hurt)

Leg Press 21s: Same concept as the Bb curl fashion
298x3 sets of 21s

Walking Lunges:
45x15
45x15
45x15

Hip Abduction:
235x15
265x15
265x15

Leg Curls:
145x15
160x15
165x15

Hip Adduction: Hip got irritated so ended early on these
160x12
175x12

Knee Ext:
130x15
145x15
150x15

Wasn't a bad lift day but there was zero intensity after squats were done. Hate days like this but everyone has them.
 
Chest Crusher! 09/20/13

Nice touch up day with alot of finishers added in!

Incline Bb:
135x15
185x15
225x6
245x6
275x5 (Forced out 6 with spotter bump)

Flat Db Press:
50x20
60x20
70x20
70x30 (Had to shut my buddy down on this one)

Crucifix Flys:
30x12
35x12
42.5x12
50x8

Dips:
x15
x20
x15
x20

Deep Push Ups:
x12
x15
x15

Pec Flys:
235x10
235x10
235x10

Decline Pullovers:
60x10
70x10
70x10

Was a rather awesome day. My incline shocked the crap outta me as I had hit it for weight in awhile.
 
Blown Up Back 09/21/13

5min WmUp on ATM

Flex Arm Hang: Hard as crap! Awesome way to fuel the muscles though IMO
x20secs
x25s
x30s
x30s

Kayak Rows:
40x15
40x15
50x12
50x12

Staggered Pullups:
x10
x10
x8

Bb Rows:
135x15
185x15
225x12
245x12
275x8 (Felt MASSIVE, literally could see my Lats engorged down my back)

Dual Pulley Row: w/ 2sec twist
30x15
40x15
50x15

Lat Pulldown:
120x15
140x15
160x15

Close Grip Low Pulley Row:
140x10
180x10
200x10

Db Rows: 1 arm
90x10
100x10
120x10

Wide Low Rows:
120x10
140x12
160x12

Biceps

Bb Curl:
65x15
85x15
95x15

Preacher Db Curl: Put CT Fletchers I command you to grow on in the headphones!
50x10
60x10
70x10

Seated High Curl:
30x12
35x12
42.5x12

Definitly a High Volume day where nothing mattered but total exhaustion and knowing that I added to my personal growth
 
09/22/13

Pulling Station Day!!!

Did some light shoulder touch ups that where just to pass time and keep tempo up

Hit the ATM for a quick 15min "GetChaMindRight"

Deadlifts:
135x10
185x10
225x10
295x5
365x5
415x3
435x3
465x1 (EASY!) Old dude was rushing me....Ass started doing CURLS!!!! FML)

Hip Abduction:
235x15
265x15
295x15
295x15

Hip Adduction:
160x15
175x15
235x15
235x15

Walking Lunges:
3 laps around track w/ Bw

Db Deads:
60x10
75x10
80x10

Leg Press: Sissy Stance w/ knees to chest
298x15
298x20
298x20
298x20
298x25 (Reached 100)

Ham Curls:
160x10
175x10
190x10

This is def proof that my strength is still there. I honestly wanted to DL all day long and was there for about 15mins and just didn't care or mind it.
 
Notes:

09/22/13

My usual day off from Prime. I must note that my aggression has really calmed down, and I see that my appetite is still running quite high. Im holding steady at 230 still but being 2 weeks into CP20 I do see some differences in my composition. My vascularity seems to be becoming clearer by the week and my attitude towards my lifts are def stronger (Versa-1). All out of my Thermo Powder and OEProtein, but I have great alternates lined up. I have enough protein to last me until Thanksgiving lol and a new thermo powder OTW. Still more to come and hope everyone is enjoying the ride thus far.

UpDate: Be Gentle lol

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TheMovement said:
Notes:

09/22/13

My usual day off from Prime. I must note that my aggression has really calmed down, and I see that my appetite is still running quite high. Im holding steady at 230 still but being 2 weeks into CP20 I do see some differences in my composition. My vascularity seems to be becoming clearer by the week and my attitude towards my lifts are def stronger (Versa-1). All out of my Thermo Powder and OEProtein, but I have great alternates lined up. I have enough protein to last me until Thanksgiving lol and a new thermo powder OTW. Still more to come and hope everyone is enjoying the ride thus far.

UpDate: Be Gentle lol

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Looking good!!!! Keep fighting! :)
 
Sick Chest Blasting

Bb Bench Press:
135x20
225x15
275x8
295x6
335x3

Db Incline Press:
100x10
110x10
120x9 Hate when I miscount!

Weighted Dips:
45x10
90x10
135x6
180x1 Just burntout now
180x10sec negative

Pec Fly:
235x12
295x10
305x10
305x5 one arm at a time

Chest Press Machine:
160x15
185x15
205x15

Skull Crushers:
75x10
85x12
105x9
105x7 Just beat my bud by one

Preacher Tricep Ext.:
50x12
65x12
80x12

Today was an awesome lift and I enjoyed every part of it. Cant complain and a heavier day but traffic in the gym started picking up and didnt feel like working in with the crowd that was there.
 
Over 1k views sweet chime in if you guys have any ideas!

My SuperHd Powder will be here tomorrow and cant wait to add it in with this stack!
 
TheMovement said:
Notes: 09/22/13 My usual day off from Prime. I must note that my aggression has really calmed down, and I see that my appetite is still running quite high. Im holding steady at 230 still but being 2 weeks into CP20 I do see some differences in my composition. My vascularity seems to be becoming clearer by the week and my attitude towards my lifts are def stronger (Versa-1). All out of my Thermo Powder and OEProtein, but I have great alternates lined up. I have enough protein to last me until Thanksgiving lol and a new thermo powder OTW. Still more to come and hope everyone is enjoying the ride thus far. UpDate: Be Gentle lol <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89112"/>
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Cp20 had my appetite raging as well. By the 3rd week though it stabilizes. I noticed I need more food in one sitting to satisfy my stomach. CP20 is awesome
 
808shredded said:
Cp20 had my appetite raging as well. By the 3rd week though it stabilizes. I noticed I need more food in one sitting to satisfy my stomach. CP20 is awesome
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Ahh so its the CP20....Huh, it does make more sense as the PRIME's feel had leveled on out a bit and this hunger feels a bit more if I was eating Id want more in the sitting as you described. Doesnt feel like Im over eating as Im at work and theres no bloated feeling.
 
Ok so I officially have my Jack3d Advanced now and I have added Cellucor SuperHd Powder to the mix as well for my am and PWO. Had awesome results with the pill form last year so hoping to see the same if not something better!
 
Back and Bi
09/24/13

Pullups Pyramid WmUp:
Did wide superset with close Grip from 10 and finished just over 7mins

Lat Pulldowns:
140x15
180x12
200x10
260x8 (No one ever pulls the whole stack and Idk why, it was quite fun)

Wide grip Low rows:
160x10
180x10
200x10
160x8

Close Grip Low Row: slow and easy 2-2 pace
160x10
180x10
200x10 Were alot more brutal than I anticipated but the pump was great

Prone Incline Db Row:
50x10
55x10
60x10

Cross Body Hammers:
55x10
60x10
65x10
70x10

Standing Ez. Curl:
115x10
135x10
165x10
205x 7sec negative!

(Remember when I couldnt move this BEAST of the rack, had to cheat it up, but who wouldnt? Hit an awesome negative and now know that Im on my way to curling this beast before the years over hopefully.)

Cobb Curls:
40x12
45x12
50x12

One of the better curl days I have ever had. Im not big on just Arm days and after all my pulling to have that much strength leftover made me feel as If ive come a long ways. PRIME may really be living up to its name as every week I am noticing PRs somewhere. Pushing this stack to the limit and my expectation have already been passed.
 
Shoulders that can be drink coasters!

Seated Db Press:
50x12
50x12
75x10
90x10

Hanging Lat Raises:
40x10
40x12
40x12
40x12

Reverse M. Shlder Press:
125x10
155x10
175x8
210x8 Think my bud helped me get the extra 2 but not sure idc were flexing over here!

Db Front Raise:
40x12
40x12
45x12

Bent Over Rear Delt Raises:
15x20
20x20
25x12 Huge difference over 5lbs
25x12

Low Cable Upright Rows:
50x15
65x15
80x12
72.5x15

Db Shrugs:
120x10
120x10
120x10

Bb Shrugs:
315x12
315x12
315x12
455x4 Just to have a low rep feel

Finisher:
4 rounds of
Rope trunk flexed Face Pulls @
Red Band Clocks (Spider Crawls) =I went for the 1, 3, 5 tap feeling
Green Band Ws

Finisher was the definition of rear delt destruction. Was a fun way to end things, and to top off an amazing workout.

Im keeping my sups all as is with the addition of the SuperHd Powder usage is 1 scoop in the morning, and one PWO with 1 Jack3d AF scoop. Def enjoyed the combo today and really feels like a safe spot to be.
 
804 said:
Be ready for Friday broham. We killed it yesterday
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Man you have never lied!!! It go time 4sho!

Wonder if anyone on AM could hang with us?
 
No Bar, no plates Leg Day!!!

Hip has been out of wack lately and trying to figure out what the deal is as my squat depth has taken a mean hit (30%) difference and its killing me. Granted Im rolling on a bent rim my tires not flat so I will try and maintain best that I can for the time being. Intense pain right around the greater trochanter but oddly none of my colleagues could find anything. Ugh its extremely annoying but hopefully just a bursitis bout.

All sup. was taken the same with AP taken at lunch with Buzz and Neds for the 1st time! Was freaking awesome

Workout:

10mins Moist Heat
10mins Bike

Worlds Greatest Stretch
Brettzel

Partial Knee Extensions:
100x15
140x15
160x15

OKC TKEs:
6x12 w/5" hold Grey Band was used (Our Strongest)

SWB Ham. Curls: Bw
x10
x12
x12
x12

Horizontal Leg Press:
160x15
200x15
300x15
350x15
400x15 (Our whole stack and depth was barely reached)

X-Band Lat. Walks: Black band
5x10 steps down and back

Prone Hamstring Curls:
20lbsx12
20x12
20x15
20x15

Hip Drops: Hitting the glute medius I believe, 12in box used
x10
x10
x12
x12

Walking Lunge w/ Body Blade:
4 laps

Hit the Bike for some serious cycling for 45mins. I had taken 1 scoop of Jack3d AF and 1 Super HD and my HR hit the redline a few times but didnt feel faint or disoriented. Definitely was higher intensity as the PT I was with is a competitive cyclist. Was good fun and burned a ton of calories, just cant wait for this hip to shape up. Finished with some foam rolling and tennis ball therapy and ice.
 
I will say that I have very light passageways of veins finally coming in the thighs from the calves, FINALLY!!!
 
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