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BudMAN PF3 during PCT-stacking it right

Budman7811 said:
Wasn't feeling it this Morning. Long weekend and too much sun yesterday. Gotta take off tomorrow due to biometrics testing ... Gotta 12hr fast before they draw blood.
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12 hr fast? Damn that's crazy, I'd be dead :/
 
MAN- the gym was much needed. I almost didn't go. My bed was so comfortable.... Ohhhh well it will be there tonight.

I've changed the dosing some to see how things go.

Pre
1/2scoop PF3
1/2 scoop Luecine
1 rounded scoop Jack3d Micro
4 caps SNS DAA
1 cap Hawthorne berry
1/4 scoop Xtend

Intra

3/4 scoop Xtend
1/2 scoop Luecine
1/2 scoop PF3

Post
Weight 188

1 scoop PF3
1 scoop leucine
1.75 scoop protein powder
5g Creatine
NXT
Multiple vitamins
1cap milk thistle.
1.25cup trailmix with granola
Nectarine


Barbell Bench Press 234.33
Set 1 : 135x8
Set 2 : 185x8
Set 3 : 185x6
Set 4 : 135x14
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Barbell Incline Bench Press 145.67
Set 1 : 95x16
Set 2 : 95x14
Set 3 : 95x12
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Barbell Decline Bench Press 180
Set 1 : 135x10
Set 2 : 135x10
Set 3 : 135x8
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Triceps Pushdown - Rope 54.67
Set 1 : 40x11
Set 2 : 30x11
Set 3 : 20x17
Set 4 : 20x20
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Cable Lower Chest Raise 70
Set 1 : 30x12
Set 2 : 40x12
Set 3 : 50x12
Set 4 : 30x15
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Dumbbell Standing One Arm Triceps Extension 27.33
Set 1 : 15x11
Set 2 : 17.5x11
Set 3 : 20x11
Set 4 : 20x9
Set 5 : 15x6
Set 6 : 10x10
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Cable Seated Row 184.5
Set 1 : 75x20
Set 2 : 90x16
Set 3 : 135x11
Set 4 : 75x20
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Notes
 
Like the dosing protocol bro, ever considered doing 1 full scoop intra or pre?
 
allnatural923 said:
Like the dosing protocol bro, ever considered doing 1 full scoop intra or pre?
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I tried that had some stomach/nausea issues. So 1/2pre, 1/2intra, 1 full post and 1 scoop with lunch

This has been workin pretty good. I sometimes add another at night with my frozen yogurt and protein powder mixture.

That's 4 a day- no issues so far, just an extra bowel movement each day.
 
Long day today. Got wife a new car.... Which took way to long, both kids went. Got home to rest two hours, now off to work. Pulling an all nighter at the mouse house.....
 
Budman7811 said:
Long day today. Got wife a new car.... Which took way to long, both kids went. Got home to rest two hours, now off to work. Pulling an all nighter at the mouse house.....
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I need a new car myself. Damn sounds like a long busy day for sure
 
Added a little more PF3 this morning...


3/4 scoop pre
3/4 intra
1 scoop post

Hopefully things workout. Wednesday had a total of 4 servings and 3 yesterday. Bowel movements kittle excessive but may have been food related I will find out today.

Gonna power through short leg session. Been having some knee issues so gonna feel through it.
 
Quick update. So far so good. In a hurry so...,




Front Barbell Squat 174
Set 1 : 75x6
Set 2 : 95x8
Set 3 : 125x8
Set 4 : 145x6
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Wide Stance Stiff Legs 336
Set 1 : 95x6
Set 2 : 135x6
Set 3 : 225x4
Set 4 : 315x2
Set 5 : 135x6
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Donkey Calf Raises 276
Set 1 : 140x20
Set 2 : 160x15
Set 3 : 180x16

Did about 10min foam roller after
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Ab Crunch Machine 135
Set 1 : 50x40
Set 2 : 70x20
Set 3 : 90x15
Set 4 : 110x6
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Notes
 
I like donkey raises but have you tried panda raises?
 
I do grizzly raises personally
 
That was quite the precise dosing protocol a few posts back!
 
Looks like weekends, for a while, will not be a training day. I work so much weekly in need the family time. Today taking kids somewhere....
 
Yup went and rode go carts. Had fun for sure. Just back from grocery store, 1.06lb thick cut NY strip in my future. Might let the wife have some. She want to start the paleo diet and well.... I don't. She's disappointed but I am not find of that diet. Higher fat diet doesn't seem to make me think I would be leaning up. I am looking for a set diet to follow that would be strict gonna buy a scale and weigh it out. $15 for a scale seems good enough for me. Probably gonna find me a trainer and get it set right!
 
Budman7811 said:
Yup went and rode go carts. Had fun for sure. Just back from grocery store, 1.06lb thick cut NY strip in my future. Might let the wife have some. She want to start the paleo diet and well.... I don't. She's disappointed but I am not find of that diet. Higher fat diet doesn't seem to make me think I would be leaning up. I am looking for a set diet to follow that would be strict gonna buy a scale and weigh it out. $15 for a scale seems good enough for me. Probably gonna find me a trainer and get it set right!
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That steak sounds delicious!
 
Kinda pissed had everything ready to go this morning, left house running a little early, almost to gym then realize I left shoes. If I ever get to gym gonna be a list cause. Probably gonna cardio , wasn't my plan.
 
I found the culprit in regards to the upset/nausea stomach issues. Beer... Tasty beer. 3-4 the night before then working out fasted and taking a preworkout. Made some changes this morning and pinpointed it. Maybe a dehydration thing.


Cardio only today

30min
2.48miles
374 calories
Incline was random and forgot to write it down.

Weight 190 still going up that's good few more then I am going to drop some. With that being said my calorie burn this morning I skittle skewed because I entered 188 as weight on the treadmill.

I will post more in a while.
 
4 servings today, the first 3 pre/intra/post. No issues at all. Going to keep this up. Almost out of the unflavored.
 
Sticking with it.... Seems ok now. No sides that would cause me not to keep dosing.


1scoop pre/intra/post (got another for after lunch)

Lucine I have questions. I was reading that 3G is sufficient when consuming protein, especially good for slow digesting proteins. What benefits in doses higher than that? Only reason I ask because my intra contains 3.5, I add a little to my intra and full scoop post. Overkill? I hate to waste.

Today's workout was a little less volume, helped spot a guy (few extra reps I wasn't expecting). Felt good, had the same guy spot me @225 on bench. He says I did all 4 without help, not sure. I'd say though having a liftoff makes a huge difference.


Barbell Bench Press 255
Set 1 : 95x14
Set 2 : 135x10
Set 3 : 185x8
Set 4 : 225x4
Set 5 : 135x10
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Push Press 126
Set 1 : 65x8
Set 2 : 85x10
Set 3 : 105x6
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Barbell Reverse Grip Bent Over Row 183.67
Set 1 : 95x12
Set 2 : 115x14
Set 3 : 145x8
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Dumbbell Arnold Press 49
Set 1 : 25x14
Set 2 : 35x12
Set 3 : 40x6
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Notes
 
Gotta pull a night job. Been up since 430 and can'tsleep because I've gotta watch my youngest, while oldest is at cheer practice. Gotta meet the other guy at 10 and have to be done by 4 am. What really sucks is that we have a mandatory company meeting at 7am.
 
Budman7811 said:
Sticking with it.... Seems ok now. No sides that would cause me not to keep dosing.


1scoop pre/intra/post (got another for after lunch)

Lucine I have questions. I was reading that 3G is sufficient when consuming protein, especially good for slow digesting proteins. What benefits in doses higher than that? Only reason I ask because my intra contains 3.5, I add a little to my intra and full scoop post. Overkill? I hate to waste.

Today's workout was a little less volume, helped spot a guy (few extra reps I wasn't expecting). Felt good, had the same guy spot me @225 on bench. He says I did all 4 without help, not sure. I'd say though having a liftoff makes a huge difference.


Barbell Bench Press 255
Set 1 : 95x14
Set 2 : 135x10
Set 3 : 185x8
Set 4 : 225x4
Set 5 : 135x10
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Push Press 126
Set 1 : 65x8
Set 2 : 85x10
Set 3 : 105x6
|
Barbell Reverse Grip Bent Over Row 183.67
Set 1 : 95x12
Set 2 : 115x14
Set 3 : 145x8
|
Dumbbell Arnold Press 49
Set 1 : 25x14
Set 2 : 35x12
Set 3 : 40x6
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Notes
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Benefits would probably be...more...lol

The thought behind leucine ratios in BCAA formulas can be confusing. 2:1:1, 4:1:1, 8:1:1...I'd have to think that at some point there's a limit where more doesn't have an appreciable effect.
 
Piston Honda said:
Benefits would probably be...more...lol

The thought behind leucine ratios in BCAA formulas can be confusing. 2:1:1, 4:1:1, 8:1:1...I'd have to think that at some point there's a limit where more doesn't have an appreciable effect.
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In trying to stick with a scoop of each after breakfast,lunch,dinner on non workout days. On workout days add another scoop pre
 
Budman7811 said:
In trying to stick with a scoop of each after breakfast,lunch,dinner on non workout days. On workout days add another scoop pre
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1 scoop with each pf3 serving should be fine. The extra scoop pre might not be necessary but just make you're getting enough of your EAA's and you should be fine
 
Too many days away.,, did manage to add couple pounds at 193 this morning, sucks for one reason because pants are little snug. I guess it's time to go the other direction cause I can't afford new work pants.
 
I feel good and I know I'll be sore, bout time.



Barbell Bench Press 228.17
Set 1 : 95x12
Set 2 : 135x10
Set 3 : 185x7
Set 4 : 185x5
Set 5 : 135x14
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Barbell Reverse Grip Bent Over Row 126.67
Set 1 : 95x10
Set 2 : 95x10
Set 3 : 95x10
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Barbell Bent Over Row 133
Set 1 : 95x10
Set 2 : 95x12
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Machine Fly 220
Set 1 : 135x12
Set 2 : 150x10
Set 3 : 165x10
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Triceps Pushdown - Rope 66.67
Set 1 : 30x20
Set 2 : 40x15
Set 3 : 50x10
Set 4 : 30x10
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Cable Lower Chest Raise 60
Set 1 : 30x15
Set 2 : 30x15
Set 3 : 40x15
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Leverage Decline Chest Press 150
Set 1 : 90x20
Set 2 : 90x15
Set 3 : 90x15
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Notes
 
Good workout..my pecs are always trashed the next day
 
Not sore at all today. I didn't go heavy yesterday, mainly because I hadn't been at the gym for a few days and didn't want to chance injury. Moderate weight.... Today I am taking a chance and doing legs.
 
Well I guess it's a good time to stay light for a while. Knee is officially done. I noticed a couple weeks ago one leg more developed. So today during squats felt some pain. Went and did one leg movements and could barely lift the weight. I have a similar issue in my arm which prevents the curl movement. So I guess it's rehab time, and u guess ill cut calories and diet. If I focus on abs then the Rey of the body can recoup. Somewhat pissed my body is like this.
 
My knees are bummed too......I can barely go heavy on leg day
 
Budman7811 said:
Well I guess it's a good time to stay light for a while. Knee is officially done. I noticed a couple weeks ago one leg more developed. So today during squats felt some pain. Went and did one leg movements and could barely lift the weight. I have a similar issue in my arm which prevents the curl movement. So I guess it's rehab time, and u guess ill cut calories and diet. If I focus on abs then the Rey of the body can recoup. Somewhat pissed my body is like this.
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How noticeable is the difference? Weird question I guess. Asymmetrical?
 
Piston Honda said:
How noticeable is the difference? Weird question I guess. Asymmetrical?
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The teardrop for sure, the rest of the quad I when flexed is harder as well. As far as the lifting aspect. Example: one leg extension machine right leg 105 decent burn rep 8, left leg pretty painful at 15lb and 30 bearable but again painful.
 
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