Ace gets pumped with AP

[aceroni]

Sweet!

On training days take it with your pre-workout or 30-60 min. before (depending on what you prefer if you notice a difference). On off days take it any time, but I prefer upon waking in the morning. Nothing fancy here, just one capsule daily.

Thank you for the quick response

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Post training meal.

Mashed Idahos mixed with Jasmine rice, onion, and garlic in a pan on low

chicken sauteed in a small amount of olive oil, siracha, and siracha's sister: may ploy sweet chilli sauce

So good

 

[breezy11]

Post back training
(after prowler work)

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Not much to note from versa just yet

Also wondering if anyone had dosing suggestions for versa

Looking swole ace.


Glad you grabbed some VERSA-1™ man; I think you'll enjoy it.

Dosing is pretty straight forward. On training days, take 1 cap 30-60 minutes pre-workout (I usually do ~40mins pre), preferably with stimulants. On non-training days, I'd recommend taking it in the morning, but anytime of day would be fine. I you use any stims in the morning, I'd take VERSA-1 with them.


Edit: I'm slow.

Thanks classic!

 

[aceroni]

Looking swole ace.

Glad you grabbed some VERSA-1(TM) man; I think you'll enjoy it.

Dosing is pretty straight forward. On training days, take 1 cap 30-60 minutes pre-workout (I usually do ~40mins pre), preferably with stimulants. On non-training days, I'd recommend taking it in the morning, but anytime of day would be fine. I you use any stims in the morning, I'd take VERSA-1 with them.

Edit: I'm slow.

Thanks classic!

THanks man.. My brother talked me into eating pizza last night..

I didn't go too overboard, maybe 4-5 slices..
Feeling full, holding a little water

Anyway I appreciate the response again. Should I take my stimulant before or literally drink my pwo as I take versa?

Also, watching snags transform and seeing you're going to compete has got me itching.

There's one six Weeks away but I've decided I'm going to continue my diet/recomp (depending on where versa leads me) then bulk this winter and dedicate it to getting my legs big as **** before I step on stage in the spring.

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I know my diet reflects what will happen as far as leaning/recomping, but I'm sure I'll be able to tell if versa leans me one way or the other

 

[CincyKiller45]

Yoked and ripped bro, good work.

 

[atanocc]

Thank you for the quick response

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Post training meal.

Mashed Idahos mixed with Jasmine rice, onion, and garlic in a pan on low

chicken sauteed in a small amount of olive oil, siracha, and siracha's sister: may ploy sweet chilli sauce

So good

Looks delish .. Gotta try, I sell those at my store well I sell pantai instead of maeploy

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[breezy11]

THanks man.. My brother talked me into eating pizza last night..

I didn't go too overboard, maybe 4-5 slices..
Feeling full, holding a little water

Anyway I appreciate the response again. Should I take my stimulant before or literally drink my pwo as I take versa?

Also, watching snags transform and seeing you're going to compete has got me itching.

There's one six Weeks away but I've decided I'm going to continue my diet/recomp (depending on where versa leads me) then bulk this winter and dedicate it to getting my legs big as **** before I step on stage in the spring.

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I know my diet reflects what will happen as far as leaning/recomping, but I'm sure I'll be able to tell if versa leans me one way or the other

No problem ace. A little pizza shouldn't do much damage. Did you use AP prior?

I've tried it both ways and don't think it makes a big difference. I usually sip my pre-workout for 20mins+ on the ride to the gym and take VERSA-1 at any point during that time.

Sounds like a solid plan. I'm already looking forward to adding some size as soon as my show is over lol. I might join you in the BB category, next time around.

Yeah, you seem pretty in tune with your body, which should help you pick up on some effects. One thing that I tend to notice is an increase in vascularity, independent of my body fat level.

 

[aceroni]

No problem ace. A little pizza shouldn't do much damage. Did you use AP prior?

I've tried it both ways and don't think it makes a big difference. I usually sip my pre-workout for 20mins+ on the ride to the gym and take VERSA-1 at any point during that time.

Sounds like a solid plan. I'm already looking forward to adding some size as soon as my show is over lol. I might join you in the BB category, next time around.
No I didn't.
Used it earlier in the day with my post meal
Yeah, you seem pretty in tune with your body, which should help you pick up on some effects. One thing that I tend to notice is an increase in vascularity, independent of my body fat level.

My buddy was praising it saying out makes him so full and vascular..
I'm already pretty vascular at this bf%, so if I get much more vascular I'll know what it's from. (no idea what I'm at, probably 8-10)

 

[atanocc]

My buddy was praising it saying out makes him so full and vascular..
I'm already pretty vascular at this bf%, so if I get much more vascular I'll know what it's from. (no idea what I'm at, probably 8-10)

Yea i can say I got a bit tighter/fuller while on versa . So hopefully Ull notice it more since u got lower bf

 

[classic34]

My buddy was praising it saying out makes him so full and vascular..
I'm already pretty vascular at this bf%, so if I get much more vascular I'll know what it's from. (no idea what I'm at, probably 8-10)

For the record, I love VERSA-1™. I'm using it right now leading into a show. For me the highlights are strength and day-long energy, but it does so much more than that.

 

[bean5er]

Honestly I eat mostly Jasmine and basmati (which is white, but not processed, so it does break down a bit slower)

I think AP will help lean you out or even provide a nice recomp if you plan your diet to do so.

when I started this I was already cutting. This just helped move it along.

As of the last week or two I've started eating more (and I've seen a nice recomping effect)

Not sure about a dirty bulk. I'd assume if you were to use it before your cheat meals then it might help to minimize fat gains.

But if you're eating bad all the time, you're going to get fatter, can't out supp a bad diet... Diet is king.

Great post here Ace!!

All caught up bud. Out of town for a bit but I'm back.

Interested to see how VERSA-1(TM) treats you.

Back shot has you looking large and ripped buddy

:thumbsup:

 

[aceroni]

Looking pretty full today for only having 200g carbs yesterday.

 

[mkretz]

You are tearin it up ace...love ur focus and determination, keep it up......anyone have any idea if versa 1 wo uld still be benefocial to someone on trt....I've heard so many good things

 

[aceroni]

You are tearin it up ace...love ur focus and determination, keep it up......anyone have any idea if versa 1 wo uld still be benefocial to someone on trt....I've heard so many good things

Thanks buddy. And i'm not sure about the Versa and trt.

I'm not even a week into versa yet, so I'll wait to comment on that.

I've had good leaning effects from the AP for sure, diet permitting.

 

[classic34]

You are tearin it up ace...love ur focus and determination, keep it up......anyone have any idea if versa 1 wo uld still be benefocial to someone on trt....I've heard so many good things

As far as results go it should make no difference, but as always we recommend checking with your prescribing doctor before adding any supplements. Get the OK and I think you'll love VERSA-1™ just like anyone else.

 

[mkretz]

As far as results go it should make no difference, but as always we recommend checking with your prescribing doctor before adding any supplements. Get the OK and I think you'll love VERSA-1(TM) just like anyone else.

Thanks!!!

 

[mkretz]

Would u say versa is better for a bulk or cut? Does it help keep fat gain down during a bulk?

 

[classic34]

Would u say versa is better for a bulk or cut? Does it help keep fat gain down during a bulk?

Oh, that's a tough one. Personally, I prefer it for cutting because it seems to correct the issues that I tend to have. On the other hand you have people who get a massive appetite increase from it which is obviously going to make cutting difficult. Yes, many do find that it helps control fat gain while bulking. That was actually something that seemed to be a highlight of the product for most of the beta testers.

 

[aceroni]

I've noticed when my diet is on point it allowed me to get really lean

I actually woke up really lean today, 175.
my bro was Mirin

 

[aceroni]

Training to catch up on

08/12
Legs

Standing unilateral leg curl
50x4x10

-again, three angles, toes in, neutral, out. Reps are per angle. So thirty reps a set
-these were super set with:

Single leg sldl
+20# KB x4x10


SSB low (ish) box squat
275x5x3 (Sets x reps)
275 x8

-Minimal rest, with my bro and I going back to back

Ghr
Bw x 10
+efs light orange x3 x9

- band assisting, setting it at middle bar on ghr held from behind hips
-super set with

Lying leg curl

Weight at three different settings with partials

SSB standing calf
245 x5x8

Reverse hyper
70x3x12


Superset w/

45° hyper
Bwx3x12

An wheel
3x11


08/13 upper

Dog bone pulldown
110 x4x10

free motion Cable fly
20#x5x20

- sets were as followed:
5Left 5 right x2 then 10 straight reps
-super set with

20° DB incline twist press
50x5x10

-5x10 was the goal but I failed at eight the last two sets



35° Incline fat BB press
115x13
155x10
175x2x8
175x5 ->135x10->65x30

super set

30° DB cg incline press
55x6x10


Finished with a triple set:

1] Earthquake bar
+ 2 ten lb kettle balls and one 15 danglin' x13, 15

-used an actual barbell here, don't have the bar

2] Pin pushup 12,13

3] floor flies 35 x2x12


There's more but my phone might die first

 

[aceroni]

I've changed my training where I am now hitting everything twice a week besides arms which are once a week sometimes every other week.

It's looking like this

mon: Legs (squat plus hamstring accessory)
Tues: Heavy back light chest/delt
Wed: Arms
Thurs: Heavy chest light back/delt
Fri: Legs (pulls plus quad accessory)
Sat and sun completely off

This is the first week i'm adding in the second chest and delt day.
I added in the first Friday session about a month ago

Core and calve work On leg days
Conditioning usually on arms


to adjust for this I changed my Friday to a medium carb day, roughly 2-300

I've been staying real lean, and my strength hasn't gone down. Hell I think i'm getting stronger actually. and I do notice an increase in vascularity.



Sorry for slacking on the training updates, I've been really busy lately.

I intend to update at least a few of my favorite or heavy sessions from the last two Weeks.

Anyway here's a few update pics
Was 178 Monday, 180 Tuesday

I don't weigh myself often but I do once in a while



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[aceroni]

Edit delete.. Double post

 

[atanocc]

Dude.. Lookin full n shredded. ESP the delts bro!! Good fckn job

 

[CincyKiller45]

Dude.. Lookin full n shredded. ESP the delts bro!! Good fckn job

x2. Like a friggin statue.

 

[aceroni]

Thanks fellas i'm noticing the versa helps me stay full and vascular throughout the day.

 

[aceroni]

sorry for being gone for so long.. been up north a lot. Still been training, just havent had any 3G let alone a computer.
Will start updating training with my last ME squat session
08/19

started with lying leg curls as a warmup finishing with three working sets of 15

1 leg SLDL 20lb KBx3x10

SSB back squat
working up in singles / doubles
always sets x reps
155x3x2
245x2x1
335x1 + belt
355x1
375x2x1
400x1 + knee wraps
420x1
440x0... Chest fell

GHR BWx5x9

two dropsets of walking lunges with four chains around my neck

three sets of GHR situps ss three sets of reverse hypers

finished with donkey calf raises + girl (idk weight.. 130??) x 4x20

 

[classic34]

Wow, why haven't I ever thought to do walking lunges with chains? That is a great idea, hands free!

 

[aceroni]

Wow, why haven't I ever thought to do walking lunges with chains? That is a great idea, hands free!

It's great you can just toss them as you fail.

Also Mirin your new contest photo. Do you have any more on AM?

 

[atanocc]

sorry for being gone for so long.. been up north a lot. Still been training, just havent had any 3G let alone a computer.
Will start updating training with my last ME squat session
08/19

started with lying leg curls as a warmup finishing with three working sets of 15

1 leg SLDL 20lb KBx3x10

SSB back squat
working up in singles / doubles
always sets x reps
155x3x2
245x2x1
335x1 + belt
355x1
375x2x1
400x1 + knee wraps
420x1
440x0... Chest fell

GHR BWx5x9

two dropsets of walking lunges with four chains around my neck

three sets of GHR situps ss three sets of reverse hypers

finished with donkey calf raises + girl (idk weight.. 130??) x 4x20

Nice sesh bro. Dropset lunges seem brutal. I'd prob fall on my Asss doing that haha

 

[classic34]

It's great you can just toss them as you fail.

Also Mirin your new contest photo. Do you have any more on AM?

That and you don't have to worry about keeping them from swinging as you lunge. I'm definitely going to try it.

Thanks. No, I don't. I have the rest posted in my precontest long on the USPlabs home board. If you want to see them just PM me and I'll link you to it.

 

[aceroni]

Vascularity is STUPID. I have veins running thru my lower abs, and even a few in my obliques/ serratus.

Waking up really dry and full..I finished AP a few days ago and versa is taking full effect

 

[breezy11]

Vascularity is STUPID. I have veins running thru my lower abs, and even a few in my obliques/ serratus.

Waking up really dry and full..I finished AP a few days ago and versa is taking full effect

Sounds about right.

That's awesome ace. The lower abdominals is where the vascularity really picks up for me as well. You've got me anxious to start back up.

Glad you enjoyed your run with AP man.

 

[aceroni]

Sounds about right.

That's awesome ace. The lower abdominals is where the vascularity really picks up for me as well. You've got me anxious to start back up.

Glad you enjoyed your run with AP man.

Thanks breezy.. That's how I know i'm really getting lean is the ab vascularity

 

[aceroni]

Like I said, I've been super busy so I apologize for the lack of updates.

08/20 upper
head down rear delt fly superset slight incline db press
15x6x20 // 45x2x20, 60x4x18

fat man rows ss incline BB 2 board
BWx4x10 // 135x4x8

-shoulder was mad, so i kept it light. i just couldn't get a good pop so i decided to shut it down

YTW ss CG BB incline 2board
3lbx4x8 // 135x4x8

- the cg felt a little better, but still just not right

finished with a triple set
1) WG pulldown 80x4x15
2)cable laterals 30x4x15
3)machine seated press idk x 4x12

- pulldowns done with a constant tension
-laterals had added DB swing partials with the last 2 sets
- the presses were all done with dropsets i just didnt record them
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08/22 back

Keiser supinating pullup
wide grip bw x 8
shoulderish width: worked up in chains until i got to hanging 5 chains for four sets of 5

- about half the chain was off the floor at the top, with alot of deload at the bottom. these are GREAT and as you will see i continued them for a few weeks.

1 arm barbell row with MD handle
75x2x8
85x2x8
- not including handle or bb weight, kind of running out of room as well

BB pendlay
185x8
205x3x5

Rack Row
225x6
275x6
315x3x6

- I'll try to get a video of these, but they're not a row, they more resemble the locking out of a deadlift, except with no hip involvment at all and exaggerated Lat / upperback involvement.

two dropsets of baseball pullovers
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08/23 legs

did light lying leg curl to warmup 30x3x30

bw 1 leg sldl / gm x3x10

conventional speed pull
225x8x3 setsxrep

bulgarian split squats
50x8
80x3x6

four sets of hack squat ss with 4 sets of TB extensions with heavy stretching

abductor/adductor

seated calves
hanging leg raise ss 45* hyper
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08/26 Legs
standing unilateral leg curl
50x8
60x8
70x2x6
- done with 3 angles, reps are per angle

one legged sldl
bw x 10
15kbx10
20x2x10

Mastadon bar squat (**** yeah this bar is sick)
155x2x6
245x5
265x9
285x10
305x10
325x10
345x7

-shoulder doesn't like getting back to the bar (hence why i always use SSB) but i do love this mastadon..
squats felt great today, but reps are a bitch. Might as well be doing cardio

GHR (the easy one not the EFS one) BWx3x10

walking lunge dropset w/ 2 chains around neck

Donkey calf +girl x4x20

lever 3x20seconds
reverse hyper ss ab wheel 3 sets
GHR bw back extension (no hip involvement) 3 sets
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08/27 upper

keiser supinating pullups ss super fat seated (no backsupport) OHP
1chainx5//85x20
3x5//105x20
4x5//125x12
5x5//""
6x3x5//"'

-pullups were slightly inside shoulder width

1arm bb row (MD handle) ss swiss bar pushup
75x4x8// BW x 3 x 20

- last set of rows i straddled the bar and continued to row another 8 reps. hits the back differently and feels good.
- swiss bar i did one set of every grip, then on the final (4th) set i did 8 reps at each grip

triple set
1)chest supported row 3px2x12, 4px2x10
2)low pulley high row (facepulls) 60x4x10
3) PVC pipe bandell bar bench 2x15

-chest row did OH WG. final set using 4 different grips
- face pull focusing on that upper back flex at the top
- bandell bar used two 10lb kettleballs and one 15lb and just tried to keep my **** together
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08/28 arms

low pulley kickback ss incline curl
20x5x15 // 20x5x14

- kickback done on a unilateral machine, with a strong contraction at the top
-curls done leaning against incline bench with a 4 second eccentric palms up the whole time

dips ss fat bar curls
bwx15 // 65x10
1chainx15// ""
1chain looped in half x 15// "
2cx2x15 // ""

- chains were all off the ground at the top, complete deload at 90*
- curls were done with forced negatives after failing. ie partner helps me curl it up then they pull down and i resist.. about 4 extra reps per set

1 dropset of high pulley rope ext
1 dropset of high pulley cable curls

prowler
+ girl.. High handles x 5x40yd
low handles no weight x 3 x 30yd

two more and i would have had the prowler flu
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08/29 upper
scap pulldowns
100x4x12
- these are MD style, only contracting the scapula. feels SO GOOD

db rear delt fly ss db incline twist press
20x5x20 // 20x2x20, 35x3x15

YTW ss slight incline DB press
2.5lbx6// 60x20
""//70x17
""//80x4x12

Reverse band bb incline ss cg pulley row
185x10// 130x12
205x8// ""
225x4x6 // ""

two sets decline HS machine...i remember why i stopped using most machines.
freemotion pulley flys three sets here, felt great

triple death
1)seated laterals 25x4x20
2)seated front raises 15x4x12
3) red mini spider walks 4x ouch

 

[aceroni]

08/30 legs

1leg sldl bw x 3 x 8

pullin'
135x3x3
225x2x3
315x2x1 + belt
405x2x1
455x2x1
475x1
500x0 .. couldn't get it off the ground.. damn.

365 x 7x3

bulgarian split squats
60x6
80x3x6

unilateral LP
2p x 4x20

-plates per side.
- done with 4second eccentric and a pause in the hole, and explosion to the top

seated calves ss dorsiflexion
standing calves

GHR back extension +OJ EFS light band + 10 lb x3x15

levers 3 x 25~ seconds
hand stand 20sec x 3
EFS gray heavy band standing abs 3x15

this session left me crippled all weekend.. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu(k
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09/02 Legs

came in super tight from driving 3hrs in traffic.. wasnt sure what to expect other than hips were tight and lowback was still trashed from friday

standing leg curl ss 1 leg sldl
super light here just warming up the hammies.. three sets

WALMART barbell box squat to a ridiculously low box
The box was so low we had to add a plate just to be able to reach it. And we stuck with that depth
225x8x3
just trying to be as fast out of the bottom of the hole as possible while maintaining tightness.
My bro and i went back to back on these.. enough rest for the other person to bang out three reps

Walking lunges
stupid amount of distance.. didnt have any chains so i just did BW until i fell over x 4 sets

seated calves ss dorsiflexion

lever 4x20 second
superman 4x30 second

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09/03 upper

One arm BB row ss swiss pushups
50x2x8 // bw x 30
75x3x8 // ""

- each set of rows i would do 8 reps, then straddle the BB and do 8 more reps.
- the swiss pushups were done with a set on each grip then the last two were done with AMRAP on each grip going from outside to inside and back again

Rack rows ss DB supinating rows
225x5x10// 55x5x10

brutal combo. lats were blown up , couldn't put my arms down.

Triple death:
1) SGHP 135x4x10
2)OH WG chest supported row 3px4x10
3)low pulley facepull 50x4x12

- rows is #45lb plates per side, unilateral machine..

SSB upperback GM
115x30
155x 20reps +15 shrugs
205x3x15 reps + 10 shrugs

Pulley fly 3 high rep sets

PVC bandell bar bench
20#KB + two 10#KB x 30,20,20
-varying grips each set, working my way out.. these are amazing. If you want healthy shoulders, buy a 1/ 1/2 " PVC pipe get it cut to 8'.. BOOM.

KB rear delt rows
20x3x12

two sets banded neck curls
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mtn dog inspired arms 09/08

palm up high pulley tricep extension super set with CG BW pushup
20x4x15 // bwx4x15

- extensions were on freemotion unilateral pulleys, 20 per side. done with constant tension
- pushups were a slow negative with an explosion from the bottom

fat bar JM press ss CG pushup
65x15 // bw x 15
85x3x10// bw x3x15

- JM's brought to the chin with a three second eccentric, a pause, then an explosive concentric
- pushups, same as above

standing DB curl ss DB hammer curl
30x4x8 // 30x4x10

-for the standing curls both arms went at the same time with a 3 second eccentric and a strong squeeze at the top
-db hammers were done stopping 1/2 of the way up
-these were done without rest, the dumbells were already in my hands

EZ preacher ss standing BB 1/2 curl
50x4x8 // 65x4x10

-3-4 second eccentric on preachers
- constant tension on that lower bicep with the 1/2 curls

finished with some sled sprints
45lb x 60yd forward
70lbx40-50ydx 4 times backwards
90lbx30ydx 4 backwards
45lb x 60 forward

 

[Sean1332]

I'm definetly liking your workouts, man.

The squat bar we have at my gym is a 55lber, so it's not the Mastadon, but just as thick and gnarly. It's given my back an awesome squat bar callus.

Actually...I want to weight this ****er now...maybe it is a Mastadon and I've been squatting 5lbs more than I thought this entire time!

 

[aceroni]

I'm definetly liking your workouts, man.

The squat bar we have at my gym is a 55lber, so it's not the Mastadon, but just as thick and gnarly. It's given my back an awesome squat bar callus.

Actually...I want to weight this ****er now...maybe it is a Mastadon and I've been squatting 5lbs more than I thought this entire time!

Thanks Sean. I'm glad you appreciate it.

I really love that Mastadon, but my shoulders really do not like getting back into a traditional squat position, so I have to use it sparingly if I want to do any upper body pressing the days after

Sup update.. Ran out of AP. Throughly enjoyed it. have a half bottle of versa and have been thoroughly enjoying it. Was debating to grab another bottle and try 2x day just bc i've been reading about ppl doing that.

Any thoughts guys?
Also i'm getting good results from one so that makes me wonder if it'd even be worth it

 

[Sean1332]

Thanks Sean. I'm glad you appreciate it.

I really love that Mastadon, but my shoulders really do not like getting back into a traditional squat position, so I have to use it sparingly if I want to do any upper body pressing the days after

Sup update.. Ran out of AP. Throughly enjoyed it. have a half bottle of versa and have been thoroughly enjoying it. Was debating to grab another bottle and try 2x day just bc i've been reading about ppl doing that.

Any thoughts guys?
Also i'm getting good results from one so that makes me wonder if it'd even be worth it

I'm definetly liking AP. I don't know why I waited to long to try it. I think it's helped me lean out some actually. I'm picking up another bottle once I get through my other GDAs I have on hand.

May have to pick up Versa again. I felt an increased work capacity in it, I think

 

[aceroni]

I'm definetly liking AP. I don't know why I waited to long to try it. I think it's helped me lean out some actually. I'm picking up another bottle once I get through my other GDAs I have on hand.

May have to pick up Versa again. I felt an increased work capacity in it, I think

AP is great man. My diet was dialed in to rip up, but I think AP and versa have really sped up my leaning out process..

Also I do notice I can do so much at the gym and while i'm on versa I can ALWAYS do more.. It's like that fatigue just never sets in

 

[herderdude]

I got to warm up with Lexen's resident Mastodon, that sucker is awesome! Fat, toothy, and sturdy. Just how I like my women.

 

[classic34]

Holy update! Ace does not disappoint. Just stopping by to let you know I'm around. I'll have to go through these workouts later!

 

[aceroni]

Holy update! Ace does not disappoint. Just stopping by to let you know I'm around. I'll have to go through these workouts later!

Thanks classic! Good to have ya here.

I almost slacked and didn't update all the training but it's been going well so I figured I should

 

[aceroni]

Pre training meal.

~8Oz chicken
1/4c mixed nuts
Greens

1L h20

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[breezy11]

Thanks Sean. I'm glad you appreciate it.

I really love that Mastadon, but my shoulders really do not like getting back into a traditional squat position, so I have to use it sparingly if I want to do any upper body pressing the days after

Sup update.. Ran out of AP. Throughly enjoyed it. have a half bottle of versa and have been thoroughly enjoying it. Was debating to grab another bottle and try 2x day just bc i've been reading about ppl doing that.

Any thoughts guys?
Also i'm getting good results from one so that makes me wonder if it'd even be worth it

I'd just stick with what's working. Using 1 cap a day for twice as long should allow you to make more progress overall.

I'm definetly liking AP. I don't know why I waited to long to try it. I think it's helped me lean out some actually. I'm picking up another bottle once I get through my other GDAs I have on hand.

Glad you're liking AP man. I just noticed that it's under $20 on NP if you want to grab more cheap.

May have to pick up Versa again. I felt an increased work capacity in it, I think

AP is great man. My diet was dialed in to rip up, but I think AP and versa have really sped up my leaning out process..

Also I do notice I can do so much at the gym and while i'm on versa I can ALWAYS do more.. It's like that fatigue just never sets in

That's one of my favorite things about VERSA-1™. My overall gym performance picks up and I literally don't want to stop training. You might've noticed after seeing some of my sessions.

 

[aceroni]

09/05 upper

Dog bone scap pulldown ss DB head down rear delt fly
110x4x15 // 25 x5x15

flies were done very slow and controlled, with a pause at the top

triple set:
1) laterals 25 x7x15
2) front raise 15x7x12
3) seated fat bar ohp 95x18, 115x4x12, 105x2x10

Raises were done very slow and controlled, pausing at the top. Presses were done with slow negatives (4sec) and an explosive concentric

I planned on doing eight sets because they felt SO GOOD, but I tweaked my neck on the last rep of presses. Pretty bad. DAMMIT

triple set again
1) slight incline db fly 25x6x20
2) machine chest press 6x20
3) slight incline DB press 60x6x6

flies and db presses were both done with a 4 second negative, pause at the bottom, and explode up.
Slight incline was about 25°
Machine press was done with constant tension and elbows flared out hard

60s have never felt so heavy before.. Holy ****.

Went and saw the Chiro. Called it a day. He did some art on my neck extensors, Told me I strained it. Fml.

 

[CincyKiller45]

Damn man, heal up!

Those triple sets looked painful, lol.

 

[bean5er]

Awesome updates Ace! Glad you enjoyed AP, and are enjoying VERSA.

Your workouts are awesome as always

 

[aceroni]

Damn man, heal up!

Those triple sets looked painful, lol.

I have had a lot of issues in the past with rotator strain so the pre exhaust before the pressing is a great way to get extra volume in without beating up my joints

They're fun too. My upper body felt so enormous from the pump of the pulldowns/ rear Delts followed by the shoulder Tri set

Awesome updates Ace! Glad you enjoyed AP, and are enjoying VERSA.

Your workouts are awesome as always

Thanks bean. Was debating on grabbing another bottle of versa

 

[aceroni]

So since I stained my neck I didn't train legs /pull Friday. Because of this, this high carb day turned into a low carb day. Woke up today 172... WTF


Makes me wonder if I should do a show.. My only problem being the closest one isn't drug tested.. I'll get owned by the juicers..

Today: squat, and eat a ton of carbs, hopefully 600+ . Operation fill up.

 

[Sean1332]

yay for carbs

I'm even more thoroughly impressed that you're not on any AAS. That's highly motivating

 

[herderdude]

So since I stained my neck I didn't train legs /pull Friday. Because of this, this high carb day turned into a low carb day. Woke up today 172... WTF

Makes me wonder if I should do a show.. My only problem being the closest one isn't drug tested.. I'll get owned by the juicers..

Today: squat, and eat a ton of carbs, hopefully 600+ . Operation fill up.

Even if you do a show and get trounced by the juicers, you can use it as a trial run to dial in the last few weeks of prep, getting the finishing touches down, and look the best you ever have.