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Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO

Fraser7276 said:
Hi just doing a bit of research and trying to gain a bit of knowledge.
Could you potentially run 3 bottles of 1-andro for a 60 day cycle? Something like 2 tabs for 20 days, 3 tabs for 20 days and then 4 tabs for the last 20 before starting pct.
I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on this. I read that the longer it takes to get the gains the more likely you are to keep them?
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Slow and steady gains are easiest to keep yeah. What is your age and training experience so we can better help you with your dosing question.
 
Fraser7276 said:
Could you potentially run 3 bottles of 1-andro for a 60 day cycle? Something like 2 tabs for 20 days, 3 tabs for 20 days and then 4 tabs for the last 20 before starting pct.
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absolutely fine - and a course many choose to follow
I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on this. I read that the longer it takes to get the gains the more likely you are to keep them?
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play on words there, I don't quite like the way it looks but there is truth there in what you say

they can build a house in like a day now - but I wouldn't want to live in one built so quickly

rome wasn't built in a day..
what is built on sand cannot stand..

slow & steady wins the race; sprinting in the land of muscle-building will fade you out quickly

one of the most popular (and most toxic as well) steroids of all time to the bb'ing landscape, m1t, was known as the quick-fixer for muscle accrual..you could gain 20lbs on a 3-week cycle -- and if you were lucky, you may keep 2-3lbs of that after pct
 
I understand what your saying. Being a 60 day course I'm assuming some sort of an on cycle support may be required or at least beneficial?

I'm 30 by the way, been in and out of the gym since my early 20's. Been training fairly solidly for just over a year now and have pretty much got my diet in check now. Just really researching and seeing whats out there thanks.
 
Fraser7276 said:
I understand what your saying. Being a 60 day course I'm assuming some sort of an on cycle support may be required or at least beneficial?

I'm 30 by the way, been in and out of the gym since my early 20's. Been training fairly solidly for just over a year now and have pretty much got my diet in check now. Just really researching and seeing whats out there thanks.
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on-cycle support not mandatory, but of course I would advise such for anything longer than 30 days
serm not mandatory at all, and would only advise this in specific circumstances, otherwise PCT Black + PureTest is sufficient

sounds like you are at a very appropriate time/circumstances in life to make this decision, our products are great for beginners as they are mild and not methylated..good products to cut your teeth on
 
hey guys a bought a bottle of finaflex 1-andro i dont understand the label its says serving size 1 capsule (1/2 serving) so does that mean that 1 capsule is 160mg or only 80mg
 
1 capsule is 160mg. Do you mind posting a picture of the label because I have not seen one that said anything about a half serving.
 
yup - montego got it covered here
1/2 serving is 1 cap, and you take 2x daily
1 cap = 160mg of active

I can see your thought process here mikzy :)
 
Beginner Finaflex 1- andro

Ok I just started finaflex on Monday and I take 3 pills of 1- andro and 3 of milk thistles 1 with every meal a day. I was going to take the PCT after I finished my 2 bottles of finaflex. I'm wondering if I am doing this right?
 
Chivar22 said:
Ok I just started finaflex on Monday and I take 3 pills of 1- andro and 3 of milk thistles 1 with every meal a day. I was going to take the PCT after I finished my 2 bottles of finaflex. I'm wondering if I am doing this right?
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It's ok to take 1 in the morning...2 caps in the late afternoon. No need to split them up in 3.
The milk thistle isn't really needed for 1-andro, since it's not methylated and mild on the sides. But then again, it's always ok to use it for health reasons.

You're correct in taking the pct after you've finished the cycle.

You have our pct revolution as a pct?

Maybe it ' s cool to start a log? all the reps will be following ;)
 
Chivar22 said:
Ok I just started finaflex on Monday and I take 3 pills of 1- andro and 3 of milk thistles 1 with every meal a day. I was going to take the PCT after I finished my 2 bottles of finaflex. I'm wondering if I am doing this right?
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looks like ed has you covered here above

re. milk thistle itself: as mentioned, there really is no need for "liver support" while on these products, as they are mild and safe when used as directed..the other issues here is milk thistle is not really worthwhile to use with the expectation of liver support, should you choose to use it
UDCA and TUDCA seem to be well constructed and the best option currently for those who wish to have true liver support - again, these are probably overkill for they type of product we produce

for PCT - we advise a combination of PCT Black + PureTest, to ensure full recuperation and retention of gains you make while on cycle
4 eweks of this combio is sufficient; you can continue to run the DAA for another couple weeks beyond if you like

let us know if you have further questions, and welcome to the forum!
 
If I ran 2 bottles in 30 days, should I start out taking 4 caps of the pct before bed and pure test throughout the day? How should I spread these pills out, is what I'm asking.
 
AnabolicBuddy said:
If I ran 2 bottles in 30 days, should I start out taking 4 caps of the pct before bed and pure test throughout the day? How should I spread these pills out, is what I'm asking.
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well, 4 caps PCT Black is a whopper of a dose..obviously it is max advised dosage, but most find they can run 2/day with great results, and a few run 3/day
it is rare, the individual who uses max dosing on this
as for dosing: PCT Black at bedtime empty stomach
PureTest you can split thruout the day if you wish, take with meals
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
well, 4 caps PCT Black is a whopper of a dose..obviously it is max advised dosage, but most find they can run 2/day with great results, and a few run 3/day
it is rare, the individual who uses max dosing on this
as for dosing: PCT Black at bedtime empty stomach
PureTest you can split thruout the day if you wish, take with meals
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Okay thank you but, I know I ran my macros right, my exercise right but I only gained 1 lb of muscle off of this stuff when my friends saw like 4-5 lbs in less than a month and I KNOW they don't diet or exercise as well as I do. How is this so?
 
AnabolicBuddy said:
Okay thank you but, I know I ran my macros right, my exercise right but I only gained 1 lb of muscle off of this stuff when my friends saw like 4-5 lbs in less than a month and I KNOW they don't diet or exercise as well as I do. How is this so?
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off of what do you refer? this is 1-Andro thread, I thought you were referrinbg to a PCT protocol here
as for the relevance of your question: could be many things, from the experience of the lifters (ie newbies gain more/faster typically than experienced trainers) to simply not taking in enough calories (this is the most common by far)

remember: these products are always individual, based on many factors not simply one thing..
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
off of what do you refer? this is 1-Andro thread, I thought you were referrinbg to a PCT protocol here
as for the relevance of your question: could be many things, from the experience of the lifters (ie newbies gain more/faster typically than experienced trainers) to simply not taking in enough calories (this is the most common by far)

remember: these products are always individual, based on many factors not simply one thing..
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I am talking about the 1-andro. How many calories would you suggest? I usually get upwards of 3,500 a day
 
AnabolicBuddy said:
I am talking about the 1-andro. How many calories would you suggest? I usually get upwards of 3,500 a day
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depends on your personal metabolism
simply put: if you are not gaining on such intake, then it should be obvious you are not eating enough
myself, I require 4200+ daily, if I am trying to gain some weight/size - and I am old man!
 
Like Snags said it's highly individualized. I stay about 500 above maintenance when bulking and adjust from there. Upwards of 1500 above maintenance calories is the most I have gone.
 
Whenever I up my calories all I gain is fat and it doesn't seem like I get any bigger. I just weighed myself yesterday though and I'm 10 lbs heavier than when I started finaflex 3 weeks ago. How is that possible?
 
AnabolicBuddy said:
Whenever I up my calories all I gain is fat and it doesn't seem like I get any bigger. I just weighed myself yesterday though and I'm 10 lbs heavier than when I started finaflex 3 weeks ago. How is that possible?
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OK, your 10lbs heavier....what's the problem? You were looking to get heavier right?
 
AnabolicBuddy said:
Whenever I up my calories all I gain is fat and it doesn't seem like I get any bigger. I just weighed myself yesterday though and I'm 10 lbs heavier than when I started finaflex 3 weeks ago. How is that possible?
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simple
not all calories are the same..therefore, the obvious conclusion (assuming your training is on point here) is that you choose to consume the wrong calories
this will lead to the result (ie fat gain, no appearance is muscular overtones) you are seeing
all I can advise is, either re-evaluate your diet, or re-evaluate your training/activity levels..it is ALWAYS one or the other
learn nutrition is NOT simply cal ingestion!
 
the obvious thing that sticks out is: you are consuming 355g carbs -- of whichover HALF (193g) is sugar! !!
other than that, these totals tell me absolutely nothing about what you are eating..however because I understood how the average person eats, it is blatantly obvious you are consuming crap worthless carbs
once again I will stress: when you approach/exceed caloric surplus, it becomes greatly important, essential in fact, if you do not want to just gain fat, that you keep the choice of foods (carbs especially) clean and complex in nature, nutritionally sound
I do very little sugar in my diet, really at any time (off-season, prep etc)..I will do a small amount in postWO period only, when I view it as beneficial to muscle growth/recovery to manipulate and boost my insulin levels slightly; still, it is NOTHING to excess!
smart, educated and slight manipulations in approach to diet will take you far
 
Hello so finally signed up after doing a lot of research about FinaFlex 1 Andro on this site along with many others and reading reviews. I am 27 years old 28 in October. I've been lifting for about 2 yrs steady now but off and on for the last 8 years due to a knee injury when I was in the military. Workout 6 days a week with a 2.5 mile jog on day 7 and diet is strict at 2500 cals a day. Yes I know cal intake needs to be increased. Enough background now to my question as I've read a lot of different advice especially on this thread alone.

I want to put on 10 lbs of muscle ideally while also cutting down my bodyfat which is sitting at about 18% right now with stubborn love handles.

1.) From DocScotts previous posts i'm looking at starting a cycle of 1 Andro and EPI-V with Pure Test and REvolution Black PCT both during the cycle and after. Cycle and Post Cycle running about 6 weeks each.
1 pill 1 Andro/1 pill EPI-V in the AM and then same again in the PM 12 hr split
2 pills Pure Test 3x daily 8 hr split
1 PCT 2x daily 12 hr split

Is this a good set up and if not please advise as to a better set up.
2.) I read on another post that L Carnitine could help with absorption. Is this a good add in or just overkill?

Any and all advice is appreciated.
 
Hello so finally signed up after doing a lot of research about FinaFlex 1 Andro on this site along with many others and reading reviews. I am 27 years old 28 in October. I've been lifting for about 2 yrs steady now but off and on for the last 8 years due to a knee injury when I was in the military. Workout 6 days a week with a 2.5 mile jog on day 7 and diet is strict at 2500 cals a day. Yes I know cal intake needs to be increased. Enough background now to my question as I've read a lot of different advice especially on this thread alone.

I want to put on 10 lbs of muscle ideally while also cutting down my bodyfat which is sitting at about 18% right now with stubborn love handles.

1.) From DocScotts previous posts i'm looking at starting a cycle of 1 Andro and EPI-V with Pure Test and REvolution Black PCT both during the cycle and after. Cycle and Post Cycle running about 6 weeks each.
1 pill 1 Andro/1 pill EPI-V in the AM and then same again in the PM 12 hr split
2 pills Pure Test 3x daily 8 hr split
1 PCT 2x daily 12 hr split

Is this a good set up and if not please advise as to a better set up.
2.) I read on another post that L Carnitine could help with absorption. Is this a good add in or just overkill?

Any and all advice is appreciated.
 
DevilDog2136 said:
Hello so finally signed up after doing a lot of research about FinaFlex 1 Andro on this site along with many others and reading reviews. I am 27 years old 28 in October. I've been lifting for about 2 yrs steady now but off and on for the last 8 years due to a knee injury when I was in the military. Workout 6 days a week with a 2.5 mile jog on day 7 and diet is strict at 2500 cals a day. Yes I know cal intake needs to be increased. Enough background now to my question as I've read a lot of different advice especially on this thread alone.

I want to put on 10 lbs of muscle ideally while also cutting down my bodyfat which is sitting at about 18% right now with stubborn love handles.

1.) From DocScotts previous posts i'm looking at starting a cycle of 1 Andro and EPI-V with Pure Test and REvolution Black PCT both during the cycle and after. Cycle and Post Cycle running about 6 weeks each.
1 pill 1 Andro/1 pill EPI-V in the AM and then same again in the PM 12 hr split
2 pills Pure Test 3x daily 8 hr split
1 PCT 2x daily 12 hr split

Is this a good set up and if not please advise as to a better set up.
2.) I read on another post that L Carnitine could help with absorption. Is this a good add in or just overkill?

Any and all advice is appreciated.
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EPI V has been discontinued, so unless you already have some, no need to discuss it.

1-andro is a great product on it's own, doses ranges from 2 to 4 a day(would start with 2 if it's your first cycle and see from there).
Please save the pure test and pct revolution for Pct.

Scotty's advice is no longer what we from FINAFLEX recommend.

So, 45 to max 60 days on 1-andro, followed by Pure test(6 caps) and Pct revolution (2 or 3 on an empty stomack before bedtime)for Pct.
 
l-carnitine is not essential, and will not provide "dramatic" results
that said - I happen to enjoy the compound (as well as other versions - notably ALCAR)
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
the obvious thing that sticks out is: you are consuming 355g carbs -- of whichover HALF (193g) is sugar! !!
other than that, these totals tell me absolutely nothing about what you are eating..however because I understood how the average person eats, it is blatantly obvious you are consuming crap worthless carbs
once again I will stress: when you approach/exceed caloric surplus, it becomes greatly important, essential in fact, if you do not want to just gain fat, that you keep the choice of foods (carbs especially) clean and complex in nature, nutritionally sound
I do very little sugar in my diet, really at any time (off-season, prep etc)..I will do a small amount in postWO period only, when I view it as beneficial to muscle growth/recovery to manipulate and boost my insulin levels slightly; still, it is NOTHING to excess!
smart, educated and slight manipulations in approach to diet will take you far
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AnabolicBuddy said:
I drink a lot of milk so I think that's why my sugar intake is high
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yeah get rid of that, cow milk is worthless, and you likely have allergy to it (lactose) and are not even aware..this will wreak havoc on bodycomp, in a big way
switch over to unsweetened almond milk ;) is all I use
trust me, you will thank me, I guarantee it..and now we have just diagnosed a very large chunk of what your issue has been
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
yeah get rid of that, cow milk is worthless, and you likely have allergy to it (lactose) and are not even aware..this will wreak havoc on bodycomp, in a big way
switch over to unsweetened almond milk ;) is all I use
trust me, you will thank me, I guarantee it..and now we have just diagnosed a very large chunk of what your issue has been
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I know numbers don't lie but I hopped on the scale today and I weighed 188.6 lbs and my weight before this cycle was 177.2 lbs I know some of that is water and fat but I honestly haven't even put on fat, I'm no leaner or fatter but yet I've gained 11 pounds in a month
 
AnabolicBuddy said:
I know numbers don't lie but I hopped on the scale today and I weighed 188.6 lbs and my weight before this cycle was 177.2 lbs I know some of that is water and fat but I honestly haven't even put on fat, I'm no leaner or fatter but yet I've gained 11 pounds in a month
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I don't know what you want me to say? you are holding large amount of water (not just little or some), and it is obscuring the bit of muscle (and indeed fat) you have gained
hence, the overall look is not noticeable -- especially to you, who sees yourself all the time
I have given you the tools to make the changes required, so that may realize both better body composition and more true muscle growth..what you do with that information is up to you, but I am not going to sit here and argue with you
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
yeah get rid of that, cow milk is worthless, and you likely have allergy to it (lactose) and are not even aware..this will wreak havoc on bodycomp, in a big way
switch over to unsweetened almond milk ;) is all I use
trust me, you will thank me, I guarantee it..and now we have just diagnosed a very large chunk of what your issue has been
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How much almond milk do you drink a day? A few 8 oz glasses or what? Never had almond milk I would like to try some
 
JD261985 said:
How much almond milk do you drink a day? A few 8 oz glasses or what? Never had almond milk I would like to try some
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mmm sounds about right - currently not a lot, but regularly as much as I need/want
in my cereal..in my shakes..every once in awhile with meals but mostly I drink water
 
I know I'm gonna get criticized for this but I plan to party on Saturday and I haven't had a drink AT ALL in like 2 months. The problem is, is that I start PCT on Thursday. Will that harm me? Or should I spread out the 1-andro through Saturday so I don't completely mess my hormones up?
 
while it is imperative you avoid alcohol on methylated compounds and not quite as important on non-methyls - it is still not a wise practice to drink while on hormonal product
you're gonna do what you are gonna do, and place your priorities where you see fit..this has been obvious from you, in your short time here
end 1-Andro beforehand, i'm sure you have no plan for pct anyway so that would be preferable, given the two choices

if you want to continue to ask personal questions, please start your own thread and ask them there, rather than our informational thread, thx in advance
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
while it is imperative you avoid alcohol on methylated compounds and not quite as important on non-methyls - it is still not a wise practice to drink while on hormonal product
you're gonna do what you are gonna do, and place your priorities where you see fit..this has been obvious from you, in your short time here
end 1-Andro beforehand, i'm sure you have no plan for pct anyway so that would be preferable, given the two choices

if you want to continue to ask personal questions, please start your own thread and ask them there, rather than our informational thread, thx in advance
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I do have a plan for Pct? I'm running 6 caps daily of pure test + 3 caps of Pct black at night for a week. Then I dose down to 4 caps daily of test and 2 caps for then on out
 
AnabolicBuddy said:
I do have a plan for Pct? I'm running 6 caps daily of pure test + 3 caps of Pct black at night for a week. Then I dose down to 4 caps daily of test and 2 caps for then on out
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I see you still did not start your own thread...
what I meant was, a specific diet set-up up to maximize PCT, as well as appropriate training levels

anyway - why drop down to 4caps PureTest? run 6caps/day, for 4-6 weeks (6 preferable)

I will reiterate once more, if you wish further personal information/communication, please make your own thread, appropriately
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
yeah get rid of that, cow milk is worthless, and you likely have allergy to it (lactose) and are not even aware..this will wreak havoc on bodycomp, in a big way
switch over to unsweetened almond milk ;) is all I use
trust me, you will thank me, I guarantee it..and now we have just diagnosed a very large chunk of what your issue has been
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I just got a carton of coconut milk (silk brand) and it is quite tasty indeed. I dont drink real milk often, I have grown an intolerance over the years.

This guy's methods are why his progress isn't optimal, not the product. Oh well
 
TheSaiyan said:
I just got a carton of coconut milk (silk brand) and it is quite tasty indeed. I dont drink real milk often, I have grown an intolerance over the years.

This guy's methods are why his progress isn't optimal, not the product. Oh well
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I've been working out for a year and I've gained almost 30 lbs. I started at 157 and I now weigh 185. I've just noticed that I've not seen any more than normal muscle gains from 1-andro than when I did it naturally. I do have a problem with fat gain but I control it and I still have a pretty damn good 6-pack.
 
TheSaiyan said:
I just got a carton of coconut milk (silk brand) and it is quite tasty indeed. I dont drink real milk often, I have grown an intolerance over the years.
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same - I finally figured out in my late 20s, that I was allergic to cow milk - and had been for a long time, just didn't know it :D
and we are not uncommon; in fact, majority of ppl develop these dairy allergies as they get older, over 50% of the population to some varying degrees..and it only continues to get worse
This guy's methods are why his progress isn't optimal, not the product. Oh well
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agreed
I mean, the whole concept of gaining 10# bodyweight, and not being able to determine "where it went" or unable to "see any difference", simply makes absolutely no sense, and indicates a tremendous ignorance in at least some part of the process/approach, if not a total lack of understanding on what difference 10# actually makes on somebody at that bodyweight
still mind-boggled, here
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
same - I finally figured out in my late 20s, that I was allergic to cow milk - and had been for a long time, just didn't know it :D
and we are not uncommon; in fact, majority of ppl develop these dairy allergies as they get older, over 50% of the population to some varying degrees..and it only continues to get worse
agreed
I mean, the whole concept of gaining 10# bodyweight, and not being able to determine "where it went" or unable to "see any difference", simply makes absolutely no sense, and indicates a tremendous ignorance in at least some part of the process/approach, if not a total lack of understanding on what difference 10# actually makes on somebody at that bodyweight
still mind-boggled, here
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TRUST ME I KNOW. I've never experienced some **** like this, that's why I asked.
 
AnabolicBuddy said:
I've been working out for a year and I've gained almost 30 lbs. I started at 157 and I now weigh 185. I've just noticed that I've not seen any more than normal muscle gains from 1-andro than when I did it naturally. I do have a problem with fat gain but I control it and I still have a pretty damn good 6-pack.
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Why you're using PH's when you've only been working out for a year is beyond me..
 
Most prohormones are shown to raise blood pressure on cycle, would it be wise to stay away from caffeine while on 1-Andro?
 
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