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Test C/ HCG cycle

xJayDee

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What's up guys, i'm 25 and have done a an H-Drol + Xtreme-Tren cycle in the past. I have a great lean diet right now, and am 5'8 200 lbs, 10-12% bf i believe. I now want to do an AAS cycle. I wrote one up sort of. I was also told I can jump start my AAS cycle with a 4week cycle of H-Drol. If jump starting is not advised please let me know. Anyways, my cycle would be,

H-Drol + TUDCA for first 4 weeks

then jump into

Test C at 500iu a week for 12 weeks

HCG at 500iu a week starting on week 2 of test

week 13 and 14 is rest

week 15 start pct with nolvadex + an AI of some sort + DAA for 4 weeks

Just looking for some advice, I've done some research, now just need some opinions if you guys would please, thank you and appreciate it. If I need to be more specific on anything please let me know.
 
You going for bulk, lean bulk, cut.... what's your goal
 
xJayDee said:
What's up guys, i'm 25 and have done a an H-Drol + Xtreme-Tren cycle in the past. I have a great lean diet right now, and am 5'8 200 lbs, 10-12% bf i believe. I now want to do an AAS cycle. I wrote one up sort of. I was also told I can jump start my AAS cycle with a 4week cycle of H-Drol. If jump starting is not advised please let me know. Anyways, my cycle would be,

H-Drol + TUDCA for first 4 weeks

then jump into

Test C at 500iu a week for 12 weeks

HCG at 500iu a week starting on week 2 of test

week 13 and 14 is rest

week 15 start pct with nolvadex + an AI of some sort + DAA for 4 weeks

Just looking for some advice, I've done some research, now just need some opinions if you guys would please, thank you and appreciate it. If I need to be more specific on anything please let me know.
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Just run halo for the full 6 weeks. You need organ support if you are going to use this. Organ shield by purus labs or tudca are both good

350mg a week is more then enough since this is you first time with test, remember less is more when it comes to gear.

Run hcg from 10-14 at 1000iu a week.

Pct is not complete and there is no need for nolvadex

Pct should consist of the following:
- a serm (torem is best but clomid will also suffice)
- a test booster with avenacosoides in it to boost free test (blue up by controlled labs or unleashed by protein factory both have this ingredient)
- a test booster for libido support/ test boosting (recycle by purus labs, forged post cycle by transform supplements, or post cycle by protein factory are all good)
- a mild ai like transdermal formestane (formasurge by bps or formastanzol by mr supps) or arimistane (erase by pes or revolution pct)
- d-aspartic acid

So this is is what it should look like

1-6 halodrol 75/75/75/75/75/75
1-6 organ shield or tudca
1-12 test 350mg a week (125mg Monday 125mg Thursday)
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
10-14 hcg 1000iu a week (500iu Monday 500iu Thursday)
Pct:
15-18 torem 90/60/60/30 or clomid 50/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed or blue up
15-18 post cycle, forged post cycle, or recycle
15-18 erase 75mg ed or transdermal formestane 100mg ed
15-18 d-aspartic acid 3g ed
 
Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate and i'm 100% serious on doing this quite soon. pillsRgood: You know man i'm not sure honestly. Id like to do both, however I understand it's very difficult. This is my diet if you're interested:
Bfast:
1 scoop pb
1 tbls honey
1 whole egg + 6 egg whites

Main meals are: 12 oz chicken breast split between 3 meals
2 cups brown rice split between 3 meals
Fist size broccoli each meal + handful of walnuts

Post w/o is: Handful of gummy bears + protein shake

Before bed is: Cottage cheese or Greek Yogurt.

I guess I want to bulk and shred a bit. I got that diet from a professional bodybuilder who currently competes and so far I love it.
 
infraredline: Thank you also, I will do exactly that. Now am I starting the halo along with the test in the same week? Or am I doing halo for 6 then jumping into test? Just so I'm clear on that
 
1 other thing also infraredline, Can I up the iu's any on the test? Maybe 250 mondays and thursday? Or should I just really keep it at 125 twice a week? Out of curiosity really. Obviously I want to get the most out of this cycle with the most gains I can possibly get. However I'm not going to do anything stupid, so I am taking your advice inconsideration.
 
The halo will function as a kickstart for the test while it builds up in your system so yes start both the halo and the test on the same day.

I say keep it at 350mg because like I said you always want to use the less is more principle when using gear. Would you be fine using 500 a week sure, but why would you want to use 500 when you can see almost the same results at 350. Just my 2 cents.

Btw gear is dosed in milligrams (mg) not international units (iu) the only thing dosed in iu's are gh and hcg.
 
In my experience with 500mg test/week, 12.5 EOD with aromasin had my joints popping. I'd started with E3D and go from there; until you start the hCG that is.
 
TaylorSwift: Gotcha man, thanks. Ill stick to 350mg/week then with 12.5. @infrared: Ok thanks, ill start the halo and test on same day then and stick to 350mg/week, I don't disagree with you on the gear and thanks. One other thing, call me stupid or something. But what is EOD opposed to E3D? I just never knew what each meant or stood for if either of you can elaborate on that. Thanks again guys.
 
infraredline: Running HCG at 1000iu/week is going to be fine from week 10-14? Just out of curiosity, because I've read logs and people saying thats pretty high and most run it at 500iu/week. Just wanted to know your take on that, however, I'm going to take your advice and do as you say considering this is my first time and you know what you're doing. Just out of curiosity thats all.
 
xJayDee said:
infraredline: Running HCG at 1000iu/week is going to be fine from week 10-14? Just out of curiosity, because I've read logs and people saying thats pretty high and most run it at 500iu/week. Just wanted to know your take on that, however, I'm going to take your advice and do as you say considering this is my first time and you know what you're doing. Just out of curiosity thats all.
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ED: Every Day
EOD: Every Other Day
E3D: Every 3 Days
 
I believe it man, I just wanna be shredded and big. I'm 5'8 200lbs right now. I wanna stay at 200 lbs but be shredded u know? Ill do whatever it takes. Ill never go back to PH's once I use injects you're not the first thats told me that. All I gotta do now is find a reliable source where I can get them from. Thats my hardest task right now. I dont wanna spend the money and get ripped off u know?
 
xJayDee said:
infraredline: Running HCG at 1000iu/week is going to be fine from week 10-14? Just out of curiosity, because I've read logs and people saying thats pretty high and most run it at 500iu/week. Just wanted to know your take on that, however, I'm going to take your advice and do as you say considering this is my first time and you know what you're doing. Just out of curiosity thats all.
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It is better to blast it for the last 5 weeks of your cycle at 1000iu a week. If it is a long ester those
5 weeks include the 2 before your pct that you are on nothin and waiting for the long estered compound to clear.

Also I'm going to disagree with the statement about ph versus aas to an extent. That is definitely applicable to some of the weaker ph'a but halodrol is absolutely a steroid because while it does convert in a small amount to turinabol halodrol itself has shown to exhibit its own anabolic and androgenic properties.
 
infraredline: Is it possible for me to cut out Halo and just do one compound (test c) at 350mg/week along with aramosin at 12.5 e3d?
So it would be this instead? Considering it's my first cycle, I think I might want to stick to one compound and see how my body reacts to it. Maybe I can run the test at a slightly higher dose a couple of weeks longer considering I'm taking out the Halo? Let me know what you think.

1-12 test 350mg a week (125mg Monday 125mg Thursday)
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
10-14 hcg 1000iu a week (500iu Monday 500iu Thursday)

Pct:
15-18 torem 90/60/60/30 or clomid 50/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed or blue up
15-18 post cycle, forged post cycle, or recycle
15-18 erase 75mg ed or transdermal formestane 100mg ed
15-18 d-aspartic acid 3g ed
 
xJayDee said:
infraredline: Is it possible for me to cut out Halo and just do one compound (test c) at 350mg/week along with aramosin at 12.5 e3d?
So it would be this instead? Considering it's my first cycle, I think I might want to stick to one compound and see how my body reacts to it. Maybe I can run the test at a slightly higher dose a couple of weeks longer considering I'm taking out the Halo? Let me know what you think.

1-12 test 350mg a week (125mg Monday 125mg Thursday)
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
10-14 hcg 1000iu a week (500iu Monday 500iu Thursday)

Pct:
15-18 torem 90/60/60/30 or clomid 50/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed or blue up
15-18 post cycle, forged post cycle, or recycle
15-18 erase 75mg ed or transdermal formestane 100mg ed
15-18 d-aspartic acid 3g ed
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You could if you wanted to. However don't thing that just because halo and extreme tren are called "prohormones" that they don't count as a steroid because they are really anabolic steroids so this would be your second cycle. So if your reasoning behind cutting out the halo is because its your first cycle then that really isn't a reason.
 
Alright. Tbh with you, I after my first cycle I stopped for 2 years. Got back into it maybe 6 months ago, gained all my muscle memory back etc. Now I want to do another cycle. Does this still count as a second cycle even considering I stopped for a couple of years? Also, I did get a second opinion on this cycle and had a couple people tell me, hcg isn't necessary and to cut out the Halo and to just do one compound. You clearly seem alot more logical to me so I'll obviously take your advice but I hope u can't blame me for wanted to get a second opinion, just trying to do my research and make sure I do this correctly and to a T harmlessly, I'm sure you understand. What is your take on those statements?
 
xJayDee said:
Alright. Tbh with you, I after my first cycle I stopped for 2 years. Got back into it maybe 6 months ago, gained all my muscle memory back etc. Now I want to do another cycle. Does this still count as a second cycle even considering I stopped for a couple of years? Also, I did get a second opinion on this cycle and had a couple people tell me, hcg isn't necessary and to cut out the Halo and to just do one compound. You clearly seem alot more logical to me so I'll obviously take your advice but I hope u can't blame me for wanted to get a second opinion, just trying to do my research and make sure I do this correctly and to a T harmlessly, I'm sure you understand. What is your take on those statements?
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I would still say its up to you as to whether or not you want to do the halo.

The way I look at pct and recovery, it can't hurt to over prepare so I would definitely still use the hcg as I instructed and the pct protocol I laid out.
 
Awesome. I guess my only dilemma is determining whether to use the halo or not at this point. Anyway I can substitute test c for test e? I've been reading that test e is a little better and has more testosterone.
 
xJayDee said:
Awesome. I guess my only dilemma is determining whether to use the halo or not at this point. Anyway I can substitute test c for test e? I've been reading that test e is a little better and has more testosterone.
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The protocol won't change whether you use test c or e since the are basically the same. The difference between test c and e is the cypionate ester is slightly larger then the enanthate ester, however it is such a marginal difference that if I remember correctly test e only has an extra 2mg of test per 100mg or something like that.

Point being it won't make a difference, just go with whichever you can get your hands on easier.
 
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