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PhatBoy07

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Looking to put on mass and strength. Been researching for a month or so on different cycles.

Stats... 25yro, 6ft, 250lbs. This will be first ph cycle.

Decided to go with "Super Dmz 2.0 (sdmz)" at two caps and im going to add in one cap of Lgi Dmz-15 per day. This will make a daily dosing of 20mg Msten/35mg DMZ. Also going to run IML 4-Andro to combat lethargy at 4 caps/200mg per day.

Week 1-2 Preload 2 caps per day of Advanced Cycle Support (ACS)

Weeks 3-6... Cycle

SDMZ: 2 caps a day (2/2/2/2)
LGI DMZ-15: 1 cap per day (1/1/1/1)
4-Andro: 4 caps per day (4/4/4/4)

ACS: 2 caps a day (2/2/2/2)
Tudca: 2 caps/500mg a day: (2/2/2/2)

Weeks 7-12... Pct

Nolva: (20/20/10/10)
E-Control: start at 3 caps (0/0/3/3/2/1)
PrimaForce DAA: 3gr a day (3/3/3/3)
ACS: (2/2/0/0)

Also will be taking fish oil, multi vitamin, and potassium for entire length of cycle/pct. Ill have tuarine on stay by for back pumps. i will not start cycle till i have all supps, serm, and taurine on hand

Also, i wont be running this until atleast november. So ill still be researching until then. This is just what ive gathered so far.

Thx guys.
 
Looks like a good short cycle.
You might want a test booster for after pct though too. To kind of bridge you to your next cycle.
 
Sdmz is not usually used as a first cycle but if you are you need to preload "acs" for two weeks prior to cycle and get "tudca" (example "aegis" from AL) for on cycle. Sdmz is very liver toxic and milk thistle is not enough. Use both acs and tudca

I'd recommend starting with a run of epi to first see how your body handles DS/PH and then sdmz cycle number 2 or 3.
 
Oh I forgot something. Back pumps are very common with sdmz and can be extremely painful. Get some taurine from now foods which works perfect. I'm running sdmz right now and I dose taurine 2g 3times a day.
 
rphash49 said:
Sdmz is not usually used as a first cycle but if you are you need to preload "acs" for two weeks prior to cycle and get "tudca" (example "aegis" from AL) for on cycle. Sdmz is very liver toxic and milk thistle is not enough. Use both acs and tudca

I'd recommend starting with a run of epi to first see how your body handles DS/PH and then sdmz cycle number 2 or 3.
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I was looking into "tudca" last night. Funny that you mention it. Thx
 
PhatBoy07 said:
Should one run "tudca" on cycle only, or all the way through pct also?
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It wouldnt hurt but this is how I do it

Cycle assist preloaded 2 weeks before cycle and throughout cycle.
Aegis(tudca) also during cycle.
I use Talos(AL product) rather than cycle assist during PCT. It Is also a liver, blood pressure, etc support but it doesn't contain milk thistle.

I don't use cycle assist during pct based on a research paper I read a year or two ago. It lead me to believe that milk thistle could alter the effectiveness of a serm. That being said it was based on different doses, purpose, etc but it was enough for me.
 
Write up a revised cycle or edit your first post so I can see what it looks like now with the updates
 
RH2012 said:
i've read the studies about milk thistle and the androgen receptor, but not altering the effectiveness of a serm. i dont guess you have a link do you? i was considering running it during week one of pct when androgen levels are low anyway but i dont want to if it will affect the serm's effectiveness.
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Wow I read it a while back. It was a link I got from a thread I was reading on the subject. I'll search for it tonight.
 
PhatBoy07 said:
Bump.... Hows my revised cycle look? Would it be wise to run tudca during pct also? Thx for the help guys.
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Yes tudca during pct is fine, that'd b good for your body. Your cycle is gtg bro, I'd add something for cortisol during pct like reduce xt but other than that it looks great.
 
I used tudca during my cycle and first week of pct, it did seem to help bring my appetite back much quicker then not using it
 
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