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no twitches but sometimes its liek i cant bed my legs without my thighs feeling liek they are going to tear, itsthe weirdest thing, i think with cutting down my cardio i will start seeing better recovery.............and im afraid my crazy overtraining i was doing a few years ago is what caused my need fortrt and im bascially stuck for life now.........
 
mkretz said:
no twitches but sometimes its liek i cant bed my legs without my thighs feeling liek they are going to tear, itsthe weirdest thing, i think with cutting down my cardio i will start seeing better recovery.............and im afraid my crazy overtraining i was doing a few years ago is what caused my need fortrt and im bascially stuck for life now.........
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I got shut down from over training before. Way too drastic of a calorie deficit and way too much time working out with too little rest and sleep. 3 months of low dose clomid and I was back to 100%. Was really rough for a while though
 
Damn sounds oike me....whem I ran clomid ot wss only a month or so at a time I tjink...
U think I'd still have a shpt since I've been shut down for like 2 years plus.....what are ur t levels like now
 
mkretz said:
Damn sounds oike me....whem I ran clomid ot wss only a month or so at a time I tjink...
U think I'd still have a shpt since I've been shut down for like 2 years plus.....what are ur t levels like now
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Idk haven't gone for testing at all
 
u just started feeling better? how do u know ur 100% and that u got shut down? how low was ur test?
 
Chest/Tris/Abs - worked out with my cousin who i rarely see so it was cool, gonna try to make it an every sunday thing....took advantae of the spotter for sure!

DB incline
65x8
65x8
65x8
70x7+1
70x6+2
40x15
40x15

weighted dips ( no dip belt, chain around the neck- hardcore stuff)
x12
x12
x12
x10 drop as many
x11 drop - as many

flat db press
55- 4 sets 10-12

decline db press

60 - 4 sets 10-12

incline cable fly crossing over at the top ss hammer strength incline - 3 sets 10-15

db pullover 3

55 3 sets 12-15

decline skull crusher
4 sets 10-12 forced on last 2 sets, drop on last set

db overhead ext
70lb 4 sets 8-10 forced on last 2 sets drop on last set

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3 sets 10-15 drop on last set

rope pressdown - 3 sets 10-15

leg raises 4 sets of 15

a superset of leg raises hip thrusts and windshield wipers on a bench - 4 sets.


started lacking intensity halfway through but picked it back up towards the end......if im feeelin fresh, going for a pr in DL tomorrow
 
mkretz said:
u just started feeling better? how do u know ur 100% and that u got shut down? how low was ur test?
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Well, I had no recovery at all, no appetite, terrible mood, was getting weaker, had terrible night sweats, woke up many times every night, no energy and falling asleep during the day, no motivation to do anything at all.

I was shut down. All symptoms fit.

Took DAA and clomid (25mg 4wks, 12.5mg 8wks) and within about 2 weeks started to feel better, in 6 weeks felt 100%, in 10 weeks felt like superman.

I may not have the bloods to back it, but its pretty clear what happened.
 
What did u do trainjng wise during that time, cuz that's how I feel now I tjink I'm gonna deload dor a little bit
 
I took 2 weeks totally off, then did 1 week at 1/2 volume, then a little more the following week. I was back at 100% volume after the first month and really started making gains again by wk 6
 
hmmm i wonder if i came off trt and when on that stuf if i could restart..........tried clomid before but was still training hard
 
felt super run down today, went to the gym to do more of a deload workout, lighter weights, not to failure perfect form.............well.....my buddy wanted to work out so we started and i just got into it and it ended up being a decent session. def no DLs today though, hammies are still super sore form legs 2 days ago

no time to post workout today , sorry
 
mkretz said:
hmmm i wonder if i came off trt and when on that stuf if i could restart..........tried clomid before but was still training hard
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I bet u could. The key is to run it low and for a long time. It might be useful to add in low dose Nova too to keep your LH receptors fresh. Clomid will wear them down after a while, but I didn't have any issue
 
unfortunately that light headed feeling came back today, i really dont know what is causing it but its whenever i take a deep breath even ifi onlyhold my breath for a short time i get etremely light headed and like a head rush......its almost liek my heart isnt pumping right or something i dunno, never hadthis issue............. kinda scary, leg workout today killed my legs. The weights I used were not much more, however i wasreallyfeeling it today,which is not a bad thing.......


leg ext 2 warm up 4 set 10-15 strict form, drop on last 2 sets - pre exhaust

front squat- form o nthese was spot on and have been trying to stay away from using my belt, really was feeling these for a change, felt good
165x8x3
175x8
185x7
135x as many x 2

back squat
195x8
205x8
215x8
215x8

leg press
6 plates 8-12 x 5
4 plates 20-30 x 2 - i decided to stay away from drop sets but instead i added an extra heavy set and did a couple back off set

hack squat

4 sets 10-12
2 sets 15-20

walking lunge - 4 sets 24 steps

glute bridge - used lighter weight but felt them way more, i think i was getting my body higher

275x10x4 - 5-10 second hold on last rep each set

glute ham raise - 5 sets of 10 - these are AWESOME!

seated leg curl - 3 sets 8-10 2 sets 12-15

1 leg lying curl - 3 sets 10-12

high and wide leg pres for hamstring emphasis - 3 sets 15-20
 
not much libido still........not much else to comment on........not too much of the product left
 
mkretz said:
unfortunately that light headed feeling came back today, i really dont know what is causing it but its whenever i take a deep breath even ifi onlyhold my breath for a short time i get etremely light headed and like a head rush......its almost liek my heart isnt pumping right or something i dunno, never hadthis issue............. kinda scary, leg workout today killed my legs. The weights I used were not much more, however i wasreallyfeeling it today,which is not a bad thing.......

leg ext 2 warm up 4 set 10-15 strict form, drop on last 2 sets - pre exhaust

front squat- form o nthese was spot on and have been trying to stay away from using my belt, really was feeling these for a change, felt good
165x8x3
175x8
185x7
135x as many x 2

back squat
195x8
205x8
215x8
215x8

leg press
6 plates 8-12 x 5
4 plates 20-30 x 2 - i decided to stay away from drop sets but instead i added an extra heavy set and did a couple back off set

hack squat

4 sets 10-12
2 sets 15-20

walking lunge - 4 sets 24 steps

glute bridge - used lighter weight but felt them way more, i think i was getting my body higher

275x10x4 - 5-10 second hold on last rep each set

glute ham raise - 5 sets of 10 - these are AWESOME!

seated leg curl - 3 sets 8-10 2 sets 12-15

1 leg lying curl - 3 sets 10-12

high and wide leg pres for hamstring emphasis - 3 sets 15-20
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Have you checked bp lately?
 
yeah I'm almost 100% sure that your low bp is to blame for the light headedness
 
no issues today regarding dizzyness......was only chest/tris, started of pretty good (worked out with a buddy) then after a few exercies got in a conversation with a younger kid i was watching squat the other day and talked to him about proper ways to get bigger, (TUT, short rest periods, full ROM, checking ur ego at the door, feeling the muscle work etc) so I was talking for a while which is totally unlike me but i love to help people out and he seems to be getting into lifting. After that it took me a while to get back into it, so the workout suffered a bit.

Barbell bench - been a while since i did these.....DB presses have gone up but this has not
175x8
175x8
175x8
185x6+2
185x5+3
135x as many
135x as many

incline db press - very slow negatives, pause at full stretch
60x8
60x8
60x8
60x8+2
60x8+2

weighted dips
35x6
25x10
25x10
25x10
bw x as many
bw x as many

incline db fly ss hammer strength incline press
3 sets 10-15 drop on last set of hammer strength

hex press - 40 lbs 3 sets 10-12

high cable fly 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set

seated e-z bar overhead ext.
60x10
60x8
60x8
60x8
40x15
40x13 ss diamond pushups to failure - def gets the pump goin!

v bar pushdown - 4 sets 10-12 drop on last set

Rev grip skull crusher with pullover (makes it much harder) - 4 sets 10-12 + presses

one arm neutral grip skull crusher - 3 sets 8-12 forced on last set

ABS

decline bench rev crunch ss hip raise ( when u raise ur legs str8 up - 15 reps each - 5 sets

ab coaster obliques - i don do these liek most people i use littl weight and actually squeeze the top of the motion so i get good contractions

4 sets of 25 each side
 
mkretz said:
no issues today regarding dizzyness......was only chest/tris, started of pretty good (worked out with a buddy) then after a few exercies got in a conversation with a younger kid i was watching squat the other day and talked to him about proper ways to get bigger, (TUT, short rest periods, full ROM, checking ur ego at the door, feeling the muscle work etc) so I was talking for a while which is totally unlike me but i love to help people out and he seems to be getting into lifting. After that it took me a while to get back into it, so the workout suffered a bit.

Barbell bench - been a while since i did these.....DB presses have gone up but this has not
175x8
175x8
175x8
185x6+2
185x5+3
135x as many
135x as many

incline db press - very slow negatives, pause at full stretch
60x8
60x8
60x8
60x8+2
60x8+2

weighted dips
35x6
25x10
25x10
25x10
bw x as many
bw x as many

incline db fly ss hammer strength incline press
3 sets 10-15 drop on last set of hammer strength

hex press - 40 lbs 3 sets 10-12

high cable fly 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set

seated e-z bar overhead ext.
60x10
60x8
60x8
60x8
40x15
40x13 ss diamond pushups to failure - def gets the pump goin!

v bar pushdown - 4 sets 10-12 drop on last set

Rev grip skull crusher with pullover (makes it much harder) - 4 sets 10-12 + presses

one arm neutral grip skull crusher - 3 sets 8-12 forced on last set

ABS

decline bench rev crunch ss hip raise ( when u raise ur legs str8 up - 15 reps each - 5 sets

ab coaster obliques - i don do these liek most people i use littl weight and actually squeeze the top of the motion so i get good contractions

4 sets of 25 each side
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Looks like a good session to me brother! I love slow negatives, I try to take a full 1-2 seconds minimum for the eccentric of all lifts in 6-15 rep range, higher than that I go for more speed to get a heavier pump.
 
mkretz said:
The amount of weight needed with super slow negatives is so much less
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And you can really feel it tearing your muscle up. Since I started doing it that way I get doms like a mother in my chest and legs
 
just cardio and some abs today, will be killin chest/tris with a bodybuilder friend tomorrow so should be intense to finally train with somone that trains with some intensity, cant wait!!!


decline oblique crunches 4 sets 10-15

weighted decline crunch 3 sets of 12 drop on last set

rope crunch 4 sets of 25

lying side to side leg raises while holding 135 lb barbell
 
great focused, Invalid Link Removed workout with my buddy today, a little shorter than my typical workout, but felt good for sure, had a really nice pump going even with low carbs yesterday. Did a couple things in different order than normal which is a nice switch up.

incline db press
70x8
70x8
75x6+2 - pr - felt nice usin the 75s!
75x5+3
50x15 - my buddy commented on how i go real low and keep constant tension on all my reps....glad someone gives credit to proper form! Ive also been really focusing on pausing in the stretch position, feels good (hurts lol) and think teh whole fascia stretching idea sounds decent in regards to muscle growth.

heavy flat DB flys - been years since ive done heavy flys, this was def. a nice switch up
45x10
45x12
45x12
45x10+2
35x20!

decline db press
65s - pr usually use 60 4 sets 8-12 - drop to 50lb x 5 on last set

dips - 4 sets to failure with great ROW slow negatives and good contractions at the top with minimal rest.....sick pump

flat db twist press - twist form neutral to regular position, gives a great contraction and finisher- 3 sets of 10

1 arm rev grip cable ext straight on to the station supersetted with facing to the side of the station to hit the tri from a different angle. ( i like this way a lot cuz u can brace ur elbow on your body so your form stays perfect. - 4 sets 10-15

neutral grip db skull crusher, 3 sets 10-12 forced reps on last 2 sets

rope pressdown 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set

only a couple servings left!!!
 
mkretz said:
great focused, Invalid Link Removed workout with my buddy today, a little shorter than my typical workout, but felt good for sure, had a really nice pump going even with low carbs yesterday. Did a couple things in different order than normal which is a nice switch up.

incline db press
70x8
70x8
75x6+2 - pr - felt nice usin the 75s!
75x5+3
50x15 - my buddy commented on how i go real low and keep constant tension on all my reps....glad someone gives credit to proper form! Ive also been really focusing on pausing in the stretch position, feels good (hurts lol) and think teh whole fascia stretching idea sounds decent in regards to muscle growth.

heavy flat DB flys - been years since ive done heavy flys, this was def. a nice switch up
45x10
45x12
45x12
45x10+2
35x20!

decline db press
65s - pr usually use 60 4 sets 8-12 - drop to 50lb x 5 on last set

dips - 4 sets to failure with great ROW slow negatives and good contractions at the top with minimal rest.....sick pump

flat db twist press - twist form neutral to regular position, gives a great contraction and finisher- 3 sets of 10

1 arm rev grip cable ext straight on to the station supersetted with facing to the side of the station to hit the tri from a different angle. ( i like this way a lot cuz u can brace ur elbow on your body so your form stays perfect. - 4 sets 10-15

neutral grip db skull crusher, 3 sets 10-12 forced reps on last 2 sets

rope pressdown 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set

only a couple servings left!!!
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That's a good amount of work man, how long do your sessions usually take?
 
great leg session today!

started off with preexhausting myquads with 4 sets 15-20 drop on last 2 sets

then frontsquats - felt super light headed again so didnt go super heavy, but as i continued to warm up i felt fine, so maybe i jsut gotta warm up better

165x8
175x8
175x8
185x8
205x6 rest 2 rest 2
135x as many
135x as many

back squat

185x10
225x8
235x8
245x10

hack squat 4 sets 10-12 double drop on last set

leg press
5 plates 4 sets 15-20 drop 1 plate at a time to 1 plate on lat set

RDL
205x10
225x8
245x8
265x8
265x8 - pr

glute ham raise - 5 sets of 10

seated leg curl 4 sets 10-12 drop on last 2 sets supersetted with standing calf raise machine 4 sets 10-20


restore is all gone :-( final review will hopefully be up tomorrow night, thanks again for this awseome opportunity1
 
mkretz said:
great leg session today!

started off with preexhausting myquads with 4 sets 15-20 drop on last 2 sets

then frontsquats - felt super light headed again so didnt go super heavy, but as i continued to warm up i felt fine, so maybe i jsut gotta warm up better

165x8
175x8
175x8
185x8
205x6 rest 2 rest 2
135x as many
135x as many

back squat

185x10
225x8
235x8
245x10

hack squat 4 sets 10-12 double drop on last set

leg press
5 plates 4 sets 15-20 drop 1 plate at a time to 1 plate on lat set

RDL
205x10
225x8
245x8
265x8
265x8 - pr

glute ham raise - 5 sets of 10

seated leg curl 4 sets 10-12 drop on last 2 sets supersetted with standing calf raise machine 4 sets 10-20

restore is all gone :-( final review will hopefully be up tomorrow night, thanks again for this awseome opportunity1
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Thanks for running it for me!

You should really talk to a doc about the light headdedness. Its a little concerning
 
FINAL REVIEW!!!!

well, since I am on TRT (100mg/wk) this was an interesting product to try out. I do not have liver issues nor taking any harsh products such as orals or anything like that but I definitely felt like I could benefit from the anti-estrogen. I did not notice much for the first few weeks. libido was normal felt the same and i was actually taking a 400mg a week blast of my test so that was good! after a few weeks i noticed my libido went down. When I cut the dosage back to my trt dose i still felt the same, so i am not too sure as what to make of this to be honest. I didnt develop any type of gyno or anything and felt normal besides the libido issue for a week or 2. so overall I hate to say, i dont know how much of a final review i can give on this product. It seemed to keep estro down, cant deny that, but i do not know why my libido would decrease all of a sudden, not sure i can blame it on this product since no other estrogen signs were present............I hope this review was still helpful and I truly appreciate the opportunity to log this product. Formutech Nutrition makes solid products and I have loved the other products I have tried from them (retore, volatile)they were awsome. Thanks again !
 
mkretz said:
FINAL REVIEW!!!!

well, since I am on TRT (100mg/wk) this was an interesting product to try out. I do not have liver issues nor taking any harsh products such as orals or anything like that but I definitely felt like I could benefit from the anti-estrogen. I did not notice much for the first few weeks. libido was normal felt the same and i was actually taking a 400mg a week blast of my test so that was good! after a few weeks i noticed my libido went down. When I cut the dosage back to my trt dose i still felt the same, so i am not too sure as what to make of this to be honest. I didnt develop any type of gyno or anything and felt normal besides the libido issue for a week or 2. so overall I hate to say, i dont know how much of a final review i can give on this product. It seemed to keep estro down, cant deny that, but i do not know why my libido would decrease all of a sudden, not sure i can blame it on this product since no other estrogen signs were present............I hope this review was still helpful and I truly appreciate the opportunity to log this product. Formutech Nutrition makes solid products and I have loved the other products I have tried from them (retore, volatile)they were awsome. Thanks again !
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Thanks for running a good log brother! I appreciate it!

Hope your light headed spells get better BTW, those suck
 
Thanks man....been better, gl with ur powerlifting training...and ley me know when u wanna hit up an eating challenge....that grilled cheese in cleveland sounds great, me u and solution
 
mkretz said:
Thanks man....been better, gl with ur powerlifting training...and ley me know when u wanna hit up an eating challenge....that grilled cheese in cleveland sounds great, me u and solution
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that would be so sick! I saw that one on man v food, it looks seriously delicious. it's like 8 kinds of cheese!

thanks for the good luck wishes, brother! I've got a lot of work to do!
 
mkretz said:
Well lets make it happen...ill drive
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Tell you what, in a couple months i'll see if I can get a day to do it on a saturday or sunday before my wife's off of maternity leave. It would be a lot of fun!
 
I think u should aim foe the next couple weeks though before I go back to school mid augist lol
 
mkretz said:
I think u should aim foe the next couple weeks though before I go back to school mid augist lol
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I can't get out of town right now, my wife is due in 3 weeks so she could actually go into labor at any time. although I think a 5lb grilled cheese is a good excuse to miss the birth of my second son, not sure she'd agree. lol!
 
mkretz said:
Second or thord week in august
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Ok, I'll see how the wife is feeling after a couple weeks after having the baby, and if she's g2g we'll do a road trip on a saturday
 
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