Recomp with Epistane / Win50 / Trenazone

wasme said:
I was trying to hold cals steady to not gain fat but add lean mass while leaning.. but I might not have much choice because I am literally starving..
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I think you are entering that anabolic zone. Eat, destroy weights, eat, destroy weights. I think you workout enough where you can afford to eat lil more, but I don't know how food affects you personally. I know it is different for everyone.
 
fumoney said:
I think you are entering that anabolic zone. Eat, destroy weights, eat, destroy weights. I think you workout enough where you can afford to eat lil more, but I don't know how food affects you personally. I know it is different for everyone.
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I seem to gain fat easy. But I could always go for a cut during the pct portion. Eat, destroy weights, eat, destroy weights - has a very pleasant ring to it!
 
I wouldn't cut till at least 2 months after your PCT. let everything calm down after your cycle first or u may lose everything after your pct is finished.

I adjust my carbs in pct as I find I always become carb and fat sensitive

Just my 2 cents
 
Day 30: Legs


Warm Up: 4km run - Again my run today was horrible. Legs felt like balloons. But once I got in the garage, everything kicked up a notch.


Leg Extensions:
140x10
140x10
140x10
140x10 - added an extra set.


Squats:
210x8
270x8
290x8
295x5


Hack Squats (3 second pause):
210x8
240x8
240x8


**Leg Extensions:
100x12x7


Stiff Leg Deadlift:
210x8
210x8
210x8
210x8


**Lying Leg Curls:
55x12x7


Great session on legs. Pretty sore I must say.
 
Mass Monkey said:
I wouldn't cut till at least 2 months after your PCT. let everything calm down after your cycle first or u may lose everything after your pct is finished.

I adjust my carbs in pct as I find I always become carb and fat sensitive

Just my 2 cents
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Thanks man.. I have been going lower carb. But have found looking back on the past week my carbs have been up.
 
runner_79 said:
How's cardio on trenazone?
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To answer this question - it feels as though it is tanking!

I am not sure if it is because I have gained some weight from the stack or the fact that my cardio has been after work but my legs feel like logs / balloons when I am running.

Friday/Saturday I will be able to do my cardio in the am. Which will give me a more accurate evaluation. Afternoon cardio has never been as good as morning when I run fasted.
 
wasme said:
Day 30: Legs


Warm Up: 4km run - Again my run today was horrible. Legs felt like balloons. But once I got in the garage, everything kicked up a notch.


Leg Extensions:
140x10
140x10
140x10
140x10 - added an extra set.


Squats:
210x8
270x8
290x8
295x5


Hack Squats (3 second pause):
210x8
240x8
240x8


**Leg Extensions:
100x12x7


Stiff Leg Deadlift:
210x8
210x8
210x8
210x8


**Lying Leg Curls:
55x12x7


Great session on legs. Pretty sore I must say.
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I love doing deads and squats together. Great for the legs
 
wasme said:
Day 30: Legs

Warm Up: 4km run - Again my run today was horrible. Legs felt like balloons. But once I got in the garage, everything kicked up a notch.

Leg Extensions:
140x10
140x10
140x10
140x10 - added an extra set.

Squats:
210x8
270x8
290x8
295x5

Hack Squats (3 second pause):
210x8
240x8
240x8

**Leg Extensions:
100x12x7

Stiff Leg Deadlift:
210x8
210x8
210x8
210x8

**Lying Leg Curls:
55x12x7

Great session on legs. Pretty sore I must say.
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Damn strong again !!!
Again after the run. Nice.
 
wasme said:
To answer this question - it feels as though it is tanking!

I am not sure if it is because I have gained some weight from the stack or the fact that my cardio has been after work but my legs feel like logs / balloons when I am running.

Friday/Saturday I will be able to do my cardio in the am. Which will give me a more accurate evaluation. Afternoon cardio has never been as good as morning when I run fasted.
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Do you think bulk in the way of better pumps are making it difficult to run ? Right now for me, everything blows up and get pumped very fast regardless of activity. I haven't been able to reach middle of my back during shower for about 2 weeks now. Haven't done cardio to compare, but I think I need to for future reference.
 
Day 31: CHEST


Warm up - Run: 4km (sucked! lol, I am really hoping this is due to being a PM run and not AM. I will know Friday.)


Bench Press:
140 x 15 - under constant tension
140 x 15 - under constant tension
210 x 5
240 x 5
270 x 5
285 x 4
285 x 3


Decline Bench (25lb plates under legs for slight decline):
210 x 8
230 x 8
240 x 8


Incline Dumbbell Press:
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 8
60 x 8


Incline Flys:
50 x 10
50 x 10
50 x 9


**Cable Crossovers (slow negative):
60 x 7 x 12


Ladder Pushups: Burnout
Level 1 x 22 (lowest)
Level 2 x 11
Level 3 x 12
Level 4 x 12 (highest)
*10 seconds rest between sets - just enough time to raise the bar.

Besides my warmup run, today was pretty solid. Numbers consistant with last week. Numbers were up on bench/decline bench.
 
fumoney said:
Do you think bulk in the way of better pumps are making it difficult to run ? Right now for me, everything blows up and get pumped very fast regardless of activity. I haven't been able to reach middle of my back during shower for about 2 weeks now. Haven't done cardio to compare, but I think I need to for future reference.
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You could be on to something. I have been getting calf pumps and shin splints + a 'side' shin splint while running. Never had either before. Have been dosing Taurine even before running but that is not helping. That said, no joint issues and no lower back pumps to note.
 
Yeah cardio killed me and yard work pooched my back about 15 minutes in. Taurine helped but OMG not enough so I just said screw the yard work and worked on my tan lol
 
wasme said:
Great snack for the game tonight!

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Quest bars go with beer ? J/k...love me some quest bars and water. Nice snack.
 
wasme said:
LOL... I think my liver would kick out!

I agree Quest bars and water .. perfect pairing.. Excited to try these peanut butter cups
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Nice pickup wasme. You'll need the water because the pb cups are a little dry. Still delicious though.
 
I seriously need to try these quest bars lol
 
What are the macros on one?
 
breezy11 said:
Here's cookie dough. They're all similar.

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If my coach would let me get away with not counting fiber I'd be all over it lol
 
Danb2285 said:
If my coach would let me get away with not counting fiber I'd be all over it lol
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Haha yeah, I wasn't sure if you did. FWIW I can eat 2 and remain in ketosis.
 
breezy11 said:
Here's cookie dough. They're all similar.
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..I have not had the chance to try CCCD yet. Where I ordered from, doesn't carry them.

Verdict on PB Cup: TOP NOTCH. They don't taste just like a Reese PB Cup, but close enough to make one hell of a great healthy alternative. I was actually quite impressed.
 
wasme said:
..I have not had the chance to try CCCD yet. Where I ordered from, doesn't carry them.

Verdict on PB Cup: TOP NOTCH. They don't taste just like a Reese PB Cup, but close enough to make one hell of a great healthy alternative. I was actually quite impressed.
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I have some PB Cups coming. Can't wait. Love peanut butter and chocolate. Anything similar will be a win win.
 
wasme said:
When you were on HDrol.. or just in general ? lol
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hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! good one buddy I'd love to say in general but that would make me lazy so NO just while on cycle both times but shhhh don't tell the others in my house as they are still doing the work . . told them I pulled a giblet training lol
 
fumoney said:
I have some PB Cups coming. Can't wait. Love peanut butter and chocolate. Anything similar will be a win win.
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They are close enough to be a total win. Just had a p28 bagel (love those) with chicken for my lunch and happen to have a pack of PB cups for dessert. The challenge is seeing how long I can go before tearing into it lol
 
wasme said:
They are close enough to be a total win. Just had a p28 bagel (love those) with chicken for my lunch and happen to have a pack of PB cups for dessert. The challenge is seeing how long I can go before tearing into it lol
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wasme said:
....And that didn't last long. Just as good as last night's first taste too.
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Lol 18 mins apart ^^^
 
Mass Monkey said:
I wouldn't cut till at least 2 months after your PCT. let everything calm down after your cycle first or u may lose everything after your pct is finished.

I adjust my carbs in pct as I find I always become carb and fat sensitive

Just my 2 cents
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Definitely agree with this wasme! During pct your bodies pretty delicate, cortisol is high along with estrogen and test is low = bad time for dieting!
 
Regarding your cardio efforts, I know trenbolone is a bronchial constrictor, might pay to look into trenazone and see if it has this side effect.
 
Day 33: Back / Traps

Not a good day. On my first set of Pulldowns one of the pulleys on my lat tower broke. I had a bare piece of cabling that sheared through the plastic. Needless to say I was not impressed. That said, I should have been prepared for this and ordered parts ahead of time.

So today I then had to scramble a little. I have no means to do a full pullup, so was able to rig something up to do what I'd call a modified pull up. Also replaced seated cable rows with bent over rows. Unfortunately this also meant no stretchers today, so did more pullovers for 7s.

As soon as I get this up I am going to call about replacement parts.

Warm up: 4 km Run (route with a strong incline near the end) - This was a fasted AM run. I still got some calf pumps and actually quad pumps today when going up the hill, but my run was far better than the others this week, which were all after work. Looks like if i continue with the runs they will have to be upon rising, regardless of time.

Dumbbell Deadstops:
95x8
95x8
95x8
95x8

Modified Pull Ups: got the bar as high as i could in the cage and hung from it.
BWx5
BWx4
BWx4
BWx3
*Pathetic

MD Pullovers:
60x10
60x10
60x10
60x10

Barebell Bentover Row:
140x8
140x8
140x8
140x8

Reeves Deadlifts: EZ curl bar. Hard squeeze/shrug on each rep.
210x5
210x5
220x5
220x5

**MD Pullovers:
50x10x7

Upright Rows:
110x8
110x8
110x8

**Shrugs (3 sec pause):
60x12x7
 
wasme said:
Day 33: Back / Traps

Not a good day. On my first set of Pulldowns one of the pulleys on my lat tower broke. I had a bare piece of cabling that sheared through the plastic. Needless to say I was not impressed. That said, I should have been prepared for this and ordered parts ahead of time.

So today I then had to scramble a little. I have no means to do a full pullup, so was able to rig something up to do what I'd call a modified pull up. Also replaced seated cable rows with bent over rows. Unfortunately this also meant no stretchers today, so did more pullovers for 7s.

As soon as I get this up I am going to call about replacement parts.

Warm up: 4 km Run (route with a strong incline near the end) - This was a fasted AM run. I still got some calf pumps and actually quad pumps today when going up the hill, but my run was far better than the others this week, which were all after work. Looks like if i continue with the runs they will have to be upon rising, regardless of time.

Dumbbell Deadstops:
95x8
95x8
95x8
95x8

Modified Pull Ups: got the bar as high as i could in the cage and hung from it.
BWx5
BWx4
BWx4
BWx3
*Pathetic

MD Pullovers:
60x10
60x10
60x10
60x10

Barebell Bentover Row:
140x8
140x8
140x8
140x8

Reeves Deadlifts: EZ curl bar. Hard squeeze/shrug on each rep.
210x5
210x5
220x5
220x5

**MD Pullovers:
50x10x7

Upright Rows:
110x8
110x8
110x8

**Shrugs (3 sec pause):
60x12x7
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Sweet update, nice numbers. I like the run!!
 
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